Anyone else having trouble germinating Jesus OG?

MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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hyroot said:
I bet Attitude sent some bunk seeds. I don't trust those seed banks. I've heard too many horror stories about attitude. Also I'm surprised they made it through customs as well. Being that they're from Attitude. I've gotten a bunch of tga. All the seeds sprout except for a few testers strains that were never released. I also picked them up directly from the tga booth at the cannabis cup, chalice, hempcon , etc...

I soak my seeds in a cup of water til they sprout. 2-3 days. after 1 day swirl the water to see if they sink. if they do that's usually a sign of a good seed. then place in rapid rooter in a party cup of soil or directly in soil. Place a bag or clear cup as a dome over it until the sprout drops its helmet ? shell. Then I remove the dome,. The dome / cup / bag helps hold moisture in so it doesn't dry out. I don't do it for the humidity.

You are better off building a soil instead of using bagged soil and the npk redundant super soil

https://www.rollitup.org/t/recycled-organic-living-soil-rols-and-no-till-thread.636057/
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Sorry to bring up an old "Shitty" thread! I have been thinking about the possibility that I DID get screwed by Attitude, the seeds were removed from original breeder packs. I thought that it was strange that Jillybean, Vortex, and Ace of Spades all had a very similar flavor to them??? Very different heritage!!!
Last week, I had 2 people that asked me about my "old vortex" from 2012! It was the real deal! My last order was from Attitude during the 4/20 promo in 2014, the Space Candy promo!
I have made a big deal about this and probably made a fool of myself, but I am starting to consider that I got screwed by Attitude and NOT TGA??? My 2014 pack of Vortex was NOTHING like my 2012 pack!!! I dont think that a breeder could fuck up that bad in a short period of time!
What are the chances that I got screwed by Attitude???
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I didnt think much about it at the time, but why would they send my Promo seeds in the original breeder packs and not the seeds that I paid for???
I grew out 5 Space Candy and they were more decent than any of the other crap! I still have 15 space candy by the way!!!
 
oldbikepunk

oldbikepunk

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ficklejester said:
What did you expect them to say ... ?

Try a different germinating technique.
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I like an inch square of multilayered and folded paper towel material in a tiny ziploc turned inside out so it stays open easier, or clear plastic wrap. On a heat pad. Seeds can sprout in less than a day and I had one this year go 21 days before sprouting. I gave up on it in the bag with five other duds out of at least 15 seeds four years old. I was picking up the dime-bag to toss it and looked inside and there it was sprouted and growing at 22 days. Don't feel bad. I fucked up sprouting $200 worth of seeds this year doing it in junky potting mix i had laying around. I sprout seeds up to five years old which sit in ziplocs and small jars shoved into big jars. No refrigeration or other extra efforts. I have too many to get fancy with storage. I still get over 90% germination and sometimes 100% on fresher seeds. Keep the paper towel damp, but with open air on one end, and not soaking wet. If you want to get fancy, orient the seed with the same side facing down as it sat in the towel. The seed wants to send the root down and gets confused when the direction is changed up from where it was prepared to grow. It's more important if the seed already has a longish root as opposed to just popping. Sorry, long-winded.
 
OG Doge

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From my experience, I had 0% germ from TGA Subcool order I made with a different seed supplier. I ordered 2 5packs of Grape Lime Ricky and picked out a TGA G13 x space queen freebie.
The seed supplier sent me a single feminized seeds from Sweet Seeds. Long story short is only the Sweet Seeds fem popped, a fucking freebie!

None of the TGA gear even popped a sprout. Fucking waste of over $100 unless that Chem Beyond Diesel is bomb as fuck.

TGA was basically bird food.
 
subcool

subcool

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MustangStudFarm said:
I tried to remedy the problem with attitude/TGA before I made it public... I had a pack of Jesus that I bought last april, and I had a 1of10 germination rate... I use FoxFarm light warrior soil that I wet before I put in cups. I had problems with seeds sinking before when I used the soil dry. Then, I would place the seed in the cup without soaking the seed. Just straight into the light warrior, no surgery with tap roots! I have over-simplified my method and I have had great results...
Why would I have trouble with a whole pack of Jesus and a 1/2 pack of vortex? I had 10of10 with jilly bean and 20of20 for space candy??? OLD stock maybe? Jesus and vortex might have been sitting on the shelf for a while??? I tried to contact both Attitude and TGA. Tga would not respond! Here is what Attitude had to say!

Hi there



Please keep contacting the breeder as I am afraid that we cannot do anything about replacements here that is against the law.

We sell our seeds for souvenir purposes only and for storage in-case the laws change. We at ‘The Attitude’ are here to help, but we have our restrictions. We cannot, and will not discuss germination/yields/THC levels (etc.) of seeds, as it is ILLEGAL to germinate seeds in the United Kingdom and most countries and we cannot be seen to be promoting this. Unfortunately, E-mails may be ignored and remain unanswered if questions relate to the above and you may be refused a sale should you persist in requesting further information.



Many Thanks

Laura

The Attitude
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You have not tried contacting me for sure bud.

[email protected]
My phone numbers on the website
I cant fix problems I dont know about

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subcool

subcool

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OG Doge said:
From my experience, I had 0% germ from TGA Subcool order I made with a different seed supplier. I ordered 2 5packs of Grape Lime Ricky and picked out a TGA G13 x space queen freebie.
The seed supplier sent me a single feminized seeds from Sweet Seeds. Long story short is only the Sweet Seeds fem popped, a fucking freebie!

None of the TGA gear even popped a sprout. Fucking waste of over $100 unless that Chem Beyond Diesel is bomb as fuck.

TGA was basically bird food.
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While there can be problems at borders with them freezing seeds we distributed over 1/2 million seeds last year Attitude isnt investing in bird food,
There are literally tens of thousands of pics of my gear on IG
Again I handle any problems brought to my attention but I ya have to actually try harder that bitching on ROI :)

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subcool

subcool

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st0wandgrow said:
My opinion.... Try Bodhi. You can pick his seeds up from a couple USA based seed banks, so no pissing around with customs. You can get 3 packs of his seeds for $140, the genetics really kick ass, and Bodhi is a great guy that would 100% hook you up with a replacement pack if you had this kind of issue.

I have grown several packs from both TGA and Bodhi. I will likely grow more TGA in the future, but subcool keeps jacking his prices up and obviously can't be bothered to respond to or help out a loyal customer that has spent thousands of dollars on his gear.
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I havnt raised my prices in 2 years thats the seed banks doing it out of demand.

My Wholesale price is 60 for 10 has been for 5 years

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subcool

subcool

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MustangStudFarm said:
I was fast to bitch about TGA. After thinking about it for a couple of months and finishing the packs that I have, I decided that I might buy more seed packs but only stay with his original line up.

So, I was bitching about 1for10 Jesus OG germinated. Well, it turned out to be a decent female. I have been more butt-hurt about other seed companies. The fact that I will clone off of my Jesus og made me happy. I am not trying to be difficult you know!
I was also complaining about vortex. I had 6for10 germ. I ended up with 4 females... I may have ended up with a couple of A-13 dom.
My conclusion... I still want to try too many of TGA's strains to stay mad!!! I just had to grow out what I had.
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Im glad you got some keepers.
I will still make up the pack of jesus just hit me up :)

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MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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subcool said:
Im glad you got some keepers.
I will still make up the pack of jesus just hit me up :)

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That post is almost 4yrs old lol. I felt like a dick after I realized what I was doing wrong. You can't plant seeds in Nov-Dec without a heating mat and dome. After I started treating them like clones in the winter, I started getting better germination rates. I've been embarrassed to come back to this section after my outburst. It's cool that you tried to talk to me but I don't think that it was the seeds fault that they didn't sprout, I was still a novice when I posted that.
 
OG Doge

OG Doge

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subcool said:
While there can be problems at borders with them freezing seeds we distributed over 1/2 million seeds last year Attitude isnt investing in bird food,
There are literally tens of thousands of pics of my gear on IG
Again I handle any problems brought to my attention but I ya have to actually try harder that bitching on ROI :)

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I got them from JBC so maybe they fucked the seeds up. I was excited to try GLR and bummed when that shit happened. I appreciate you coming in here and standing up for your product,
makes me want to try again from a different seed bank. Is Attitude a better spot to pick up your gear?

I've seen and smoked product from your seeds, I'm not doubting your skills, just sucks ass when bunk/old seeds arrive from seed bank.
 
subcool

subcool

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OG Doge said:
I got them from JBC so maybe they fucked the seeds up. I was excited to try GLR and bummed when that shit happened. I appreciate you coming in here and standing up for your product,
makes me want to try again from a different seed bank. Is Attitude a better spot to pick up your gear?

I've seen and smoked product from your seeds, I'm not doubting your skills, just sucks ass when bunk/old seeds arrive from seed bank.
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There is really no such thing as old seeds but yes we sort every seed but sometimes ya get bad germ rates
I will always replace a problem pack no questions asked.

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MustangStudFarm

MustangStudFarm

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OG Doge said:
I got them from JBC so maybe they fucked the seeds up. I was excited to try GLR and bummed when that shit happened. I appreciate you coming in here and standing up for your product,
makes me want to try again from a different seed bank. Is Attitude a better spot to pick up your gear?

I've seen and smoked product from your seeds, I'm not doubting your skills, just sucks ass when bunk/old seeds arrive from seed bank.
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I think that he was talking about ordering directly from him, it looks like $55/pack. To be honest, I stopped running TGA gear because of the price, $100-140/pack from Attitude or MidWeekSong. However, at $55 I'm pretty excited to get them direct from the source instead of getting "Re-Packaged" at Attitude. It bothers me when seeds don't come in the original breeders pack, like Attitude Seed Bank.

https://subcool.com/product-category/cannabis_seed_store/
 
subcool

subcool

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MustangStudFarm said:
I think that he was talking about ordering directly from him, it looks like $55/pack. To be honest, I stopped running TGA gear because of the price, $100-140/pack from Attitude or MidWeekSong. However, at $55 I'm pretty excited to get them direct from the source instead of getting "Re-Packaged" at Attitude. It bothers me when seeds don't come in the original breeders pack, like Attitude Seed Bank.

https://subcool.com/product-category/cannabis_seed_store/
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They were marking up our gear 3x and giving shitty service we got tired of it.

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