Anyone else not renewing their card due to the DOH sharing info with law enforcement?

420circuit

Active Member
I am going to renew, but you make a very good point, worth consulting an attorney, or signing onto the proposed class action...

If Snowden can be prosecuted, then the person(s) who broke the law by accessing the mmj database should be indicted too. We live in a nation of laws, not men. I hope the people who broke this law get arrested and prosecuted. I will renew, but it feels like a protest, like I am risking the wrath of nazi ss troopers by doing so. And it sucks. As an American I am outraged, but also fearful that we have lost something. Have we lost control to the police, Justice Dept and (their) military? So far it is just a crime. Let us hope that it gets prosecuted as such.
 

Azhden

Active Member
I still have ~5 months to think about renewing the card for the wife and I... It's nice knowing I can have 6 plants flowering and be "safe"... but it's not nice knowing that even by "playing by the rules" my info is being looked at by prying eyes... I payed to play legally and this crap happens...

It's better than what happened a little while ago tho... I pay to play and get a BS letter (16 freaking pages!!!) on why they kept my money and denied my medical card!!! Oh boy was I a pissy camper when that showed up! Waited until the "New re-new" date they gave me in the letter, and all was well (after having to pay AGAIN for a Dr.s visit and the state paperwork... bunch of jerks! :lol: )
 

Colorado Sam

New Member
Well my injuries are such that I am going to renew no matter what. Pain level is such that I am the poster boy for medical cannabis. Can't take Nsids as ulcer was caught just before it perforated over a bunch of arteries. We are a nation of laws still. And I will follow the law. But violate my rights under our law, you better have very deep pockets.
 

Azhden

Active Member
It is a small price to pay, just don't like dealing with the runaround bull. Could have just said in 1 page why I was denied, not 15 extra pages stating the same thing with different terminology... that was over the top I thought. Like I said, I was just happy to have another 5 months or so to get things in order again... "Have to pay to play" :mrgreen:
 

Raeofsun13

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I plan on renewing my card, one because I am a caregiver and I need my medication as well. I figure screw it if prying eyes have already seen my shit, then I might as well renew. It does suck that information was given to others inappropriately and it is un-nerving.
 

Trousers

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With possible 50% tax rates renewing will save me some money.
A $200 ounce for $300? Fuck that noise.

I grow and don't really need dispensaries but I like to grab a few ounces a year for variety.

With possible huge tax rates on recreational weed, the $90 or so dollars for a card will be made up in no time.
With a (bullshit) 50% tax rate, the med card would pay for itself after only one ounce.

I really do not understand how asshole politicians can justify a 50% tax rate when the voters passed an amendment titled "Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol..."


There is fund raising going on for a lawsuit.
 

kinddiesel

Well-Known Member
get your card stay legal, who gives a fuck you will be legal protected by the state, I would go in wearing full mj shirts and pants bandana and stickers on my car when I went in to renew, sooner or later there will be a law suit for rights violation , there will be a hot shot lawyer seeing this eat it up and get rich, . personal say don't hide in shadows , but be proud of what you are . so why hide it ? its like when I carry equipment into my house my fucking nabor want to see what im carrying in, once I was carrying in plants, they were snooping around I called them over and said shit why not help carry if your so fucking concerned ,
 

lvtokerr

Active Member
The gubmint supposed to fear its citizens not the other way around. You give them power by fearing them.
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
So I just came from my renewal appointment with doc Eisenbud and I requested a extended plant count/edibles rec.
I was reading awhile back where some locals got pulled over and the pigs pulled their info from the registry database .
The guy who posted this said the pigs asked him why he had an extended plant count. The OP also noted that plant count was indicated on the redcard .
Doc Eisenbud knew nothing of this and gave me letter that recommends increased count but doesn't say a thing about plant or product count.
The state doesn't even get this info unless for some reason I get popped and take it to court. I explicitly asked that I was not to mail the extended plant/product rec so there is no info about this in the registry in my case anyway..
 

Sirdabsalot462

Well-Known Member
I too have the” extended plant count”..I am over 12 for personal usage, don't want to disclose how many he recommended on an open forum though.

My red-card does NOT reflect my count, only in the fine print is the increased” recommendation”
With my condition, it's absolutely pertinent for my card to remain current and active.

I see 2 different docs and a therapists... The doctors require me to stay current, or they will drop me as a patient.

Yet.. I'm still in pain most of the time regardless..

Unfortunately, there is a necessity for my doctors and my cannabis.

Sooooo, I will remain at the mercy of both...
 

Jus Naturale

Active Member
I will absolutely be renewing. Unless I'm talking to a DEA agent, I'm not doing anything illegal. Moreover, simply having a card doesn't equate to possession (for the DEA folks out there). My name appearing on a registry doesn't require me to possess anything, so that fact alone should never justify any probable cause from a fed. As for my name being on a list in general, since Amendment 64 passed, the culture's changes, so I'm no longer worried about my name being on a list. Instead, I'm happily adding my voice to those of other marijuana legalization advocates, and I'm proud of it!

For another thing, just because they have access to the list doesn't mean they're doing anything untoward with it. While I don't like it, I realized that was a legitimate risk when I sent in my application (you could tell that the woman at the post office knew what was in the envelope when I first applied, based on her expression, but I didn't care about that either). Sure, some of the really high plant counts may catch an eye or two, but if the patient is complying, the patient's complying. Whatever the case, though, I'm sure this isn't the first time or the last time. Also, having access is different than actively using the list. While I don't doubt the folks that said the police looked them up from the patrol car, I doubt that's a regular activity (i.e., standing orders to run everybody's name through the MMJ list).

I'm rambling now, so I'll shut it, but I'll definitely renew.

Cheers!
 

Raeofsun13

Well-Known Member
So I just came from my renewal appointment with doc Eisenbud and I requested a extended plant count/edibles rec.
I was reading awhile back where some locals got pulled over and the pigs pulled their info from the registry database .
The guy who posted this said the pigs asked him why he had an extended plant count. The OP also noted that plant count was indicated on the redcard .
Doc Eisenbud knew nothing of this and gave me letter that recommends increased count but doesn't say a thing about plant or product count.
The state doesn't even get this info unless for some reason I get popped and take it to court. I explicitly asked that I was not to mail the extended plant/product rec so there is no info about this in the registry in my case anyway..
So I saw Eisenbud for my renewal and he would not give me the extended plant count, now I am pissed off.
 

dbkick

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So I saw Eisenbud for my renewal and he would not give me the extended plant count, now I am pissed off.
really? I used the line " I didn't quit smoking cigs just to start smoking weed".
He was actually a little reluctant about things this time. I forgot my xray of the stainless steel strap and screws I have in my ankle and this time he actually made me take my shoe and sock off to show him the 6 inch long scar from the 25k worth of surgery. he asked me when it happened and it's truly been a blur since then and I had no idea so I just told him 2006.
If they're gonna get technical about things I can easily fuck their state fee off and go back underground. but then the only people underground now are the ones not in compliance.
 

dbkick

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I'm guessing I'm somewhat older than you too and this may be a factor anymore. I've seen some perfectly healthy looking young ones getting card, hell even my kid is questionable but he does have a bad back.
 

Raeofsun13

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I'm guessing I'm somewhat older than you too and this may be a factor anymore. I've seen some perfectly healthy looking young ones getting card, hell even my kid is questionable but he does have a bad back.
maybe, a little ridiculous given my two neck fusions in the past two years and I explained I medicate with edibles, I vape only once in a while. Maybe because I am a small female he assumes I don't need more.
 

dbkick

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sounds pretty legit, I'd go back the fuck in and question ol doc eisenbud. The letter doesn't even go to state.
 

dbkick

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I didn't have a problem one, mid sentence he was pulling out the letter and signing it, standard letter and all it takes is his signature. Of course if you mentioned you smoke or vape that may be a deal bnreaker. The letter states no number just that the patient may need more than what the law provides and it's his recommendation that you be allowed this. It also goes on to state the patient is urged to keep a journal of how much product and how much oil was made.
 
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