anyone else used defoiliation tech?

Really thinking of trying this next but trying to get some first hand advise from people who have tried it. Did it work? better yield/worse yield? kill all your plants? I have seen good results from topping, lollypopping etc but im always keen on trying new ways.

Please dont jump in saying it never work, plants need leaves etc if you havent tried the tech yourself am after real first hand experience. Been following a few journals where they really rate it

candleguy said:

Really thinking of trying this next but trying to get some first hand advise from people who have tried it. Did it work? better yield/worse yield? kill all your plants? I have seen good results from topping, lollypopping etc but im always keen on trying new ways.

Please dont jump in saying it never work, plants need leaves etc if you havent tried the tech yourself am after real first hand experience. Been following a few journals where they really rate it

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I hate to be that guy... but there's always at least a couple of threads exactly like this one every day. I'm sure you would find more information on the topic from a search than you would ever get from this thread.

SableZen Thanks again For your help on ppm. I have never gotten the search to work ever on this site. All I ever get is try again in 20 seconds Denris

There is a big difference between topping and lollypopping and the ridiculous concept of cutting off green leaves. If it worked, it would be used in professional agriculture and not just by a select few uniformed pot growers.

I don't have experience but we are in the middle of experimenting with defoliation. Two clones from the same plant, grown with the same conditions, started at the same height but one is defoliated and one is not. Not to be like, "hey look at my thread!" But hey...look at my thread lol. If you have the time or are interested in seeing the results that is. I will say we are not master growers and do not expect large yield from either one. We just wanted a side by side comparison and tried to eliminate as many other variables as possible, so no other techniques were used on them. The two I'm talking about are Mary Kate and Ashley in the thread. But if you kind of thumb through, we are trying as many experiments as we can. You can only read so much before it is clear people are bias. Not that there is anything wrong with it, I believe growing is a personalized experience and you should do what is right for you. I like to see it with my own two eyes and experiment. The link is in my signature.

candleguy said:

Really thinking of trying this next but trying to get some first hand advise from people who have tried it. Did it work? better yield/worse yield? kill all your plants? I have seen good results from topping, lollypopping etc but im always keen on trying new ways.

Please dont jump in saying it never work, plants need leaves etc if you havent tried the tech yourself am after real first hand experience. Been following a few journals where they really rate it

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This is a total myth, the same as throwing out all your food at your place and expecting you to glow muscle the next few weeks, defoliation is a cfl noobie method that has doomed to fail from start to finish, rather you google for results than test the wit of the locals here ....go figure!

Jorge Cervantes PSA: Keep Your Leaves On!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq7CuVpAeo

Southerner said:

There is a big difference between topping and lollypopping and the ridiculous concept of cutting off green leaves. If it worked, it would be used in professional agriculture and not just by a select few uniformed pot growers.

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I hear what you are saying pal but after following 2 different journals in which the tech was used the results seemed extremely positive, i just assumed it was reletivley new.

Bearded bandit thanks very much for your reply and i will be looking at your journal with interest as this is exactly what i have been looking for!!!!!!!!

vostok said:

This is a total myth, the same as throwing out all your food at your place and expecting you to glow muscle the next few weeks, defoliation is a cfl noobie method that has doomed to fail from start to finish, rather you google for results than test the wit of the locals here ....go figure!

Jorge Cervantes PSA: Keep Your Leaves On!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq7CuVpAeo

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This is my point how do you know its a myth when you have never tried it? I can throw a link to bassmans journal which shows great results and peaked my interests

or this http://growweedeasy.com/marijuana-defoliation-tutorial.

I have done plenty of research so far although more would be needed before i decided to try it, just seems not many people have tried it but many people are willing to bash defoil but i dont understand why?

You seem to be hellbent on removing perfectly good and very much needed foliage from your plant.
Expert growers with far more experience than both of us simply laugh at the idea.
If that isn't enough for you, go ahead and remove the leaves from your plant.
Just know that your doing it with no viable reason for doing so.

to me the concept seems crazy aswell untill i started reading more and more into it and watching journals. I fully understand that very experienced growers dont do it but is this because they are stuck in there ways seeing excellent results from scrog etc so dont see a point in changing?

ahhh, the argument on this subject never ends, lol. i always do quite a bit of trimming, right up to early flower. i spread it out, and don't do too much at any one time. i also use the old adage, if you can't tuck it, pluck it......
i think some don't do it cause they're afraid to. don't want to hurt my plant.

Silky Shagsalot said:

ahhh, the argument on this subject never ends.

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The concept might seem crazy but anyone who has taken a plant biology course would no that plants behave in unexpected ways. Even if you are an experience grower, which I am not, a method can never be scoffed at until attempted. Like the OP, I have read plenty of grow journals with amazing results that did nothing more than defoliate. There is plenty of logic behind the idea that removing the leaves that feed the plant will inevitably hurt the plant, but there are plants, cowpeas for example, that are known to increase yields from defoliating. Most plants have developed the advantage of having "leaves to spare" in the case of predation or poor conditions? If this is true, and we are positive that conditions are optimal and there is no predation. It makes some sense that the plant would stand to benefit from the increased light penetration from losing the leaves it didn't need.

I have been trying the technique by removing lower fan leaves that are blocking light from lower branches during veg and a single removal of lower fan leaves during early flower.

This is only my time first growing but I can't complain about the results so far. She has only been under 12/12 for 25 days with CFLs
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Lmao ya avin a bubble if ya reckon stripin ya plant of leaves will harm or stunt it ya want results go figure it out on de pon listen to no1 and do as u want bro atleast then wen u find the truth ya can leave all da pussy clarts on de pon haha and no I aint here to listen or argue with any batty I do me shit 1on1 eyeaneye!!

Try it. Document it. Let us know the results!