Anyone Have the Cure for this Problem.......

KansasCityChief said:

lol i know doc i kno i just wasnt sure if peeps would get the slang. this would be my first flush if i understand it correctly it would be done like this..... im using a 2 gal smart pot so use 6 gals of water right? and flush either in the morning or at night? do i add all the water at one time or do it one each hour ? and i see on the fox farm schedule they say something about buying hammerhead to flush . it that stuff necessary .

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theres no set amount to flush. take your plant to the bathtub or shower, set the water to lukewarm. not warm, not cold, basically body temperature. then let the water flow into your pot slowly and evenly for several minutes, while you rotate the pot so you wash all the soil evenly. after 5 min or so the water comin out the bottom should be clear. taste it. if it tastes chemical, keep flushing.

if you arent sure you dare taste it, consider this: the plant you are growing in this dirt is going to be smoked by you. if you put shit in there that makes you not want to taste her water, why should she want that water??

when the water is clean enough that you are willing to taste the runoff from your pot, your on the right track. when it tastes like clean pure water, youre ready.

after this your plant is gonna be SOAKED let her rest, and dont water again untill her pot feels a little light, or you can poke your finger in the drain holes and it doesnt feel moist. after that just give water for a few days, then start feeding, LIGHTLY!

Dr Kynes said:

theres no set amount to flush. take your plant to the bathtub or shower, set the water to lukewarm. not warm, not cold, basically body temperature. then let the water flow into your pot slowly and evenly for several minutes, while you rotate the pot so you wash all the soil evenly. after 5 min or so the water comin out the bottom should be clear. taste it. if it tastes chemical, keep flushing.

if you arent sure you dare taste it, consider this: the plant you are growing in this dirt is going to be smoked by you. if you put shit in there that makes you not want to taste her water, why should she want that water??

when the water is clean enough that you are willing to taste the runoff from your pot, your on the right track. when it tastes like clean pure water, youre ready.

after this your plant is gonna be SOAKED let her rest, and dont water again untill her pot feels a little light, or you can poke your finger in the drain holes and it doesnt feel moist. after that just give water for a few days, then start feeding, LIGHTLY!

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ok do i need to let her be in darkness or nething after i do this? or just continue on the same light cycle regiment as always

Sound's as good as we can get. The pots I use are 5 gal nursury pots you can get these things at the local nursurys, for about .25 cents each, they last years. Ive got 15 year old pots in use today for .25 they owe me nothing. When you replant the larger pot allows room for new soil, Pack a little extra perolite in it. I suggest to people that use bag soil in their grows that It allways pays to put an extra scoop or so in each pot right before transplant. After awhile you will get a genuine "feel"for it, When you move amongst your plants you will get to know what is right and not, perportion wise, you will look down at your soil, pick up the plant feel its weight, and either water or move on to the next plant. Soon you will dial it it, Then bingo, when it has this much per pot it drys out this much, in a day or two, get it? Other than cost of soil and of course space no pot is too big, Ive got clone mothers ten years old growing in 40 gall rubbermade garbage barrells! When you flush often you will see discolored water coming out the bottom, start with that, when It gets running clear stop and let it dry no harm in putting a fan close by to blow acrost the top of the pot this helps to dry the soil.

KansasCityChief said:

ok do i need to let her be in darkness or nething after i do this? or just continue on the same light cycle regiment as always

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Keep your lighting the same, she doesnt need any additional things to worry about. she may droop, wilt or even drop a few leaves but she will get better. it takes days of inundation to flood out cannabis

melungeonman said:

Ive got clone mothers ten years old growing in 40 gall rubbermade garbage barrells!

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Why you gotta make those ladies feel bad bro? Call them 40 gallon Cannabis Containment Systems, or perhaps Indoor Bio-Diversity Botanical Support Systems

Same light if the leaves stay dry through your flush. exellent advice on the water taste a little on your fingertip aint gonna hurt you we aren't talking battery acid. Look for a rusty color water after a few min let the water go in your plant when the rust apears stop let it drain on its hold it kinda at a angle directing the flow after it stops set it back and hit it again this gives those salts and things a chanc to break up and unincorperate some then hit it again until it runs clean. I,ve spoke to people who found 2 to 3 gal split over two doses to be ample, With everything else in this game golden rule less is more, Its easyier to add a little more than fix it when too much bro . drop a line and let me know. by the way check out the barn pics in the barn album.

ok thanks for the help one more questions for u guys the fan leaves i was told i should cut some off so that the lower buds can get more lighting?

Wanted to give a like to your comments Dr Kynes, What happened to our like button nothing where they used to be? guess your gonna have to settle for a rep.

Better to leave your sugar and starch factorys alone. Just prune all those under- branches out and turn them into clones. And if you do I recomend you leave the fan leaf. tuck them back, carefull not to snap those stems. I always leave fan leaves alone.When they look a day or two from falling off I (might) help alittle but not allways, These fan leaves are better thought of as big bud factorys the more you have the better you are. Of coarse once again, if blooming you probably don't want to prune better to do this just before you start. peace

melungeonman said:

Better to leave your sugar and starch factorys alone, better to prune all those under-bud branches out and turn them into clones if they on upper branches you can tie them back or tuck them back, carefull not to snap those stems these big leaves i leave them allone when they look a day or two rom falling off them I (might) help alittle but not allways, These fan leaves are better thought of as big bud factorys the more you have the better you are.

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melungeonman u done started a whole another topic. is cloning pretty easy to do or is that something i might be interested in later on down the line

melungeonman said:

Better to leave your sugar and starch factorys alone. Just prune all those under- branches out and turn them into clones. And if you do I recomend you leave the fan leaf. tuck them back, carefull not to snap those stems. I always leave fan leaves alone.When they look a day or two from falling off I (might) help alittle but not allways, These fan leaves are better thought of as big bud factorys the more you have the better you are. Of coarse once again, if blooming you probably don't want to prune better to do this just before you start. peace

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sometimes a damaged leaf takes more than it gives. if it has a big burnt patch, you can trim off the dead tissue, and reduce fungus and pest problems, but if a whole leaf turns funky i snip that sucker off. in veg your plant will grow new fan leaves to replace any removed leaves

KansasCityChief said:

melungeonman u done started a whole another topic. is cloning pretty easy to do or is that something i might be interested in later on down the line

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Check out the film "I Grow Chronic" by Mr Green

he gives the simplest and easiest example of rooting a cutting i have ever seen. if you cant find that, heres the strait poop

tools:
a sharp clean cutting tool (razor, scissors, jackknife, or anything that will make a smooth clean cut)
rooting hormone (like $10 a bottle in powder gel or liquid, powder is easiest in my opinion)
rockwool cube, one inch or 2 inch
a shallow tray with 1/4 inch of plain perlite in the bottom
a clear plastic dome (i use the top from a safeway bakery cake)
MILD lights (23 watts of CFL will be fine)
a misting bottle for plain water (no magic juces!)

soak your rockwool cube in water overnight, then rinse in fresh water immediately before you begin your operation. do not shake it or squeeze it dry. let it hold all the water it wants.
find a healthy branch with at least a couple leaves on it. cut it off at a 45 degree angle near the main stalk. remove a few lowerr leaves off your new cutting, so you have an exposed stem like 3 inches long.
Dip your cutting into the rooting hormone, and put it in the pre-drilled hole in your rockwool cube. press the rockwool in around your stem to hold it tight. place the cutting in it's new rockwool home on your perlite tray.
spray the inside of the plasict dome with water from your misting bottle, cover your cutting with the dome (to keep in humidity) and bring the light down as close to the dome as possible, and leave it on 24/7
when the dome has only a little humidity condensing on the inside, mist the dome again (the dome not the plant). repeat for a few days and soon youll see roots peeking out!

now you have a new baby plant! congratulations!

Easy to do, min materials needed, When they get vegged and you have pleanty of clone sites ready on those lower branches we can get them cloned. Meanwhile get yourself a large clear plastic tub a couple feet deep should get it done. The lid can be utilized as your clone tray inside the dome. You can use perolite for a bed or even an old rag rug. Also on the cheap you can use the jiffy (TYPE) expandable pots. I say type, because you don't want to use jiffy>Jiffy uses peet, peet often is too acidic, instead select a expandable pot made of ground coconut fiber. next get some rootone, clonex, homemade recipe, whatever you like I find the best results from clonex gel. I have made alot of clones with old school rootone. You can get this at wall- mart, any good nursury etc. Also find an old moisture-resistent heating pad or just purchase a germinating mat. These cost around $25.00 and will be your most expensive purchase. These are the bare bones essintials gather these up and we'll talk clones!!

Pretty wild you where typing in the simplest way you have ever seen. At the same time I was typing exactly the same thing. This IS how I learned to clone and have always done it this way. I don't have a cake cover, but I do have a $3.00 clear storage tub flipped over, this alows for about 20, 6 to 8 inch clones. I have also drilled a few holes in the bottom of this to allow some of that condinsation to escape. This minimalizes some of the tip necrosis. I do trim the points off the tips before I put them in the dome, not much about 1/4 inch. After that initial cut at 45deg, I take a heat sterilized scalpel, I purchased this on line IGROWHYDRO, cost $2.00. and make an actual cut. I dont push, just draw the blade across the stem it cuts clean, I do this 1/4 inch up from the original cut. dip and place. Some times, I've in a pinch use coconut expandible pots I've had about the same results as the rock wool.

cool bro! i never seen a sufficiently clear tub for light transmission. Ill look into that shit. tired of making 4" clones. the clear plastic cake tops work great for seed starting too. and they are free and "recycled" from shit that would usually be thrown out.

for cutting i have used surgical scissors, disposible razor knives, box cutters, and pocket knives. anything that cuts clean will do. i never seen a scalpel so cheap. im gonna check that shit out!

i find a little perlite or even clean builders sand lets just enough moisture out, and gives plenty of fungus free room for roots. plus these dont break off lil roots when you take your new babies out of the incubator for their new home (i have terrifying visions of roots entwined in rugs, so i gotta plant a carpet) and when your babies are out in their new homes you can sterilize sand or perlite with boiling water or an oven or microwave.

water is the magic nute that will fix nute burn..but not too much all at once...just don't feed for a couple water to dry cycles.

That's not nute burn!!!! sorry fellas did anyone ask what his ph is? No or what about magnesium and calcium? No. Please check the ph in your soil and let me know what it's at? to check it test the run off if you don't have soil testing strips. it should be at 6.1-6.5.

REALSTYLES said:

That's not nute burn!!!! sorry fellas did anyone ask what his ph is? No or what about magnesium and calcium? No. Please check the ph in your soil and let me know what it's at? to check it test the run off if you don't have soil testing strips. it should be at 6.1-6.5.

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It sure looks lie nutrient burn, and heres what he posted earlier

"77 degrees, Fox Farm Nutes my leaves have been lookin like that since the start of veg. it looked alot worst in the begging so its actually been getting alot better. the soil is 6.9, soil line is fox farm ocean forest im into my 3rd week of flowering and just started goin full strength this week on them. u think i should go back to 1/4 or 1/2 half"

only thing thats goin on is nutrient overdose. temp is good, quality soil isnt making acid in his pot, ph is stable and within an acceptable range, and he recently raised his nutrient levels.

Dr Kynes said:

It sure looks lie nutrient burn, and heres what he posted earlier

"77 degrees, Fox Farm Nutes my leaves have been lookin like that since the start of veg. it looked alot worst in the begging so its actually been getting alot better. the soil is 6.9, soil line is fox farm ocean forest im into my 3rd week of flowering and just started goin full strength this week on them. u think i should go back to 1/4 or 1/2 half"

only thing thats goin on is nutrient overdose. temp is good, quality soil isnt making acid in his pot, ph is stable and within an acceptable range, and he recently raised his nutrient levels.

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Full dose is fine if you do feed them once with it then the next 2 feedings ph water. Flushing is not a bad ideal but I don't think that's the problem. Pretreated soil even states on ff after 2 weeks the ferts are degraded. Here's the link to FFOF faq's http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/faqfox-soilgrow.html#anchorsoil5 and to let you guys know a little about me I help my buddy out at his Hydro shop sometimes.

Hi there i wouldn't recommend feeding at full sttrength with fox farm nutes or most nutes
Id only go at most 1/2 strength its better to have a
plant that gets consistent small portion
Feeding then a huge amount that burns and needs
Correction