Anyone know what happened?

Of course I expect half can be males and they get destroyed.

Zspy1985 said:

Got a friend growing 7 or so plants of my bag seed I had saved. He planted her in November 2018 and topped her early this year I think.

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The Cold Weather causes those veins on the sides to do that, looks like a pepper plant, But as your summer goes by they will start to look normal. I live in a very cold place and when it get too cold outside the MJ plants look just like that.
I am sure those will do fine.
Now on the other hand you should keep a few of those males and make some seed just be careful when doing so. don't visit females until you have clean cloths on and keep them far away. it's always nice to get good seed, I do it all the time so I never have to buy seeds again, and breed them into the best you can.
As for you friend not to cure his plants show him that it's a waste to grow for that purpose and not get the full advantage out of his MEDICINE, it make no sense, get him on here maybe we can help.

Bear420 said:

The Cold Weather causes those veins on the sides to do that, looks like a pepper plant, But as your summer goes by they will start to look normal. I live in a very cold place and when it get too cold outside the MJ plants look just like that.
I am sure those will do fine.
Now on the other hand you should keep a few of those males and make some seed just be careful when doing so. don't visit females until you have clean cloths on and keep them far away. it's always nice to get good seed, I do it all the time so I never have to buy seeds again, and breed them into the best you can.
As for you friend not to cure his plants show him that it's a waste to grow for that purpose and not get the full advantage out of his MEDICINE, it make no sense, get him on here maybe we can help.

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I have tons of my strain Sonny OG. I actully got them from that very friend that we are discussing and named the strain after him.

I'm in need of bud and need it fast! I plan on growing a couple auto flowers as well to get bud within 75 days.

As for getting my friend on here I can try but like I said he is an Old Timer and can be difficult with certain things.

He's pretty much hanging entire plants till they turn to dust.

When trying to smoke last month I asked to see his results for things and everything was dryed beyond belief, fan leaves all still attached and baggy after baggy was all the same.

Omg I just remembered I have the original bag I got my seeds from with plenty of dry herb in it! I'll post photos when I'm off work tonight.

Zspy1985 said:

I have tons of my strain Sonny OG. I actully got them from that very friend that we are discussing and named the strain after him.

I'm in need of bud and need it fast! I plan on growing a couple auto flowers as well to get bud within 75 days.

As for getting my friend on here I can try but like I said he is an Old Timer and can be difficult with certain things.

He's pretty much hanging entire plants till the turn to dust.

When trying to smoke last month I asked to see his results for things and everything was dryed beyond belief, fan leaves all still attached and baggy after baggy was all the same.

Omg I just remembered I have the original bag I got my seeds from with plenty of dry herb in it! I'll post photos when I'm off work tonight.

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I understand that forsure, the old timers like to do stuff the same, Although I am not a youngster anymore but I've learned over the years that we never know it all, and to keep listening to others, we might be older but you don't get wiser without learning and listening to what others are saying.

Love the names, 75 days you should be fine so a 25 day veg and 50 day stain Indica would work out perfect, I have a C99 that finishes in 45 to 50 under LEDs from CLW and it's really fast and Potent. You are out in Cali ? should be fairly easy to find a quick flowering strain.

Good luck Keep us posted.

Growing in the cold definitely stunts growth from what I've seen online and my indoors.

I just never seen leaves that look like basil to me.

I have a few different strains of autos to choose from:

Pyramid Auto Anesthesia Autoflowering Feminised Seeds (PYR126)

Strain Hunters Skunk Auto Flowering Feminised Seeds (SHU10BFEM)

Heavyweight Fast & Vast Auto Autoflowering Feminised Seeds(HVY521F)

Freebie Seeds:

1 X Humboldt Bubbas Gift Feminised Seed, 2 X Humboldt 707 Truthband Feminised Seeds, 3 X Humboldt Amherst Sour Diesel Feminised Seeds, 5 X Afghani Regular Seeds

Zspy1985 said:

I was being literal. I have about 70ish seedlings in a 5 gallon fabric pot, 5 x 1 gallons and another 7 in cardboard pots..

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That's crazy! I love it though... Do you plan to just let them all grow in the same pot like that or transplant things out? I also like coming up with names for all the bag seeds strains I've made

hawse said:

That's crazy! I love it though... Do you plan to just let them all grow in the same pot like that or transplant things out? I also like coming up with names for all the bag seeds strains I've made

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Everything I've see online when 2 or more plants are together they fight each other for space or grow weird and over shadows the other. Root issues as well.

Just cause I have so many of the Sonny OG that I was throwing 5 or so seeds per hole to get as many as I can to pop. The idea actually came from the Old Timer we've been discussing I see him have 1 giant pot with tons of seedlings in it.

Figured what better way to start then with low maintenance germination methods and a bunch of seeds stright into a 5 gallon pot!

I'll be transplanting everything into 1 gallons within this week.

Gotta clean and sanitize these pots and another 20 x 1 gallons I got at the house.

If this were one of my plants I would probably trim a few of those leaves that are stacked right on top of each other just a bit, the plant looks just a little constricted for airflow from just this one photo, but if some light could reach deeper into the canopy of new growth sites down below it might be better, this plant doesn't look starved for leaf growth so I don't think it would hurt much, and more than likely would benefit the plant later on as it grows.

I've found (ideally) that allowing 360° space for each budsite to receive light and airflow to be an advantage, and that the plant will put on new leaves as soon as older ones are cleared and then newer leaves will have less chance of constriction. The main thing that slows growth to just about any plant is to much shadow area below the upper canopy, plants benefit from being allowed to sprawl outwards, the plant will do this on its own if you remove some constriction.

The plant in the background of the photo also, lots of shade below the upper canopy, it's good to not allow the plant to collapse in on itself with shade before it has a chance to sprawl out and reach reasonable size, I would look in from the top of the plant and see what leaves need to be cleared down the center of the plant/plants to allow adequate light to reach through the plant, you don't need to go overboard just try and manicure a layered screen with the leaves as you trim downwards on the plants, creating a type of teeter-totter cascade down the plant for light, energy and air to flow into & throughout.

Shaded areas don't receive as much IR from the sun so they typically don't get activated for new growth until new energy and flow is allowed to enter, which means a light defoliation can provide benefit to any plant that isn't in full flower or full producing fruit, defoliation can be bad if too many leaves are removed during flower, just to be clear (especially outdoors). Plants do need to be able to shield themselves from the sun's rays, but a selective and light defoliation has never shown any detriment to any plants ive ever encountered, especially during a growth phase.

I'm excited to start lollipoping! I'm all for taking off some fan leaves as that's what I do for my autos. Nothing extreme with them cause they finish so fast.

I'll take a peek during this week and stop by to remove some foliage. Hopefully I can take some clones from the other strains.

But yes you are correct, super chunky and compacted. With it being so small after November/December and winter I figured it was stunted. Think cause of the weather it just made the plant wonky and not sure what to do, flower or veg.

I wonder how long it will be trying to fill out till shes finished.

As promised. Here is a picture of the end result my friend is so stubborn about. Says it works great and is super potent.

Every single baggie my friend pulled out looks like this.....

Zspy1985 said:

I'm excited to start lollipoping! I'm all for taking off some fan leaves as that's what I do for my autos. Nothing extreme with them cause they finish so fast.

I'll take a peek during this week and stop by to remove some foliage. Hopefully I can take some clones from the other strains.

But yes you are correct, super chunky and compacted. With it being so small after November/December and winter I figured it was stunted. Think cause of the weather it just made the plant wonky and not sure what to do, flower or veg.

I wonder how long it will be trying to fill out till shes finished.

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Well it looks like there are a few 7 lobed leaves hidden in amongst all those singular lobed leaves, which indicates that the plant is wanting to put on more vegative growth first before any other growth occurs (flower), and so I would guess the plant is wanting to grow for another month or more building it's structure before it tries to flower out, so I'd guess depending on whether it's indica or sativa (or one of the others) it could take 2-4 months to flower out entirely.

But guessing from the photo, the plant behind the plant in question looks to have wider Indica dominant leaf structure, so I'd say pretty close to 3 1/2 months if it is indica leaning, if it's sativa leaning/dominant then you may add an extra month to the harvest/expenditure date.

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As promised. Here is a picture of the end result my friend is so stubborn about. Says it works great and is super potent.

Every single baggie my friend pulled out looks like this.....View attachment 4336268

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Sorry to see the disappointment in your latest harvest Zspy1985, it is easy to see why, it does look like the buds had collected some dust before they were stored, I would recommend you and you friend to both put some effort into managing a better cure, and putting up the buds in a clean dust proof container when they are finished drying ( just remember to burp and check them often if they are stored right after a harvest if all the moisture isnt clear etc). But it really shouldn't take longer than 1-2 weeks to dry out the buds (I'm not real sure what drying method your friend is utilizing?) and they should be placed in protective containers after this amount of time if the buds are being properly processed.

Also maybe try and keep a few less males around or just leave the males around for early season pollination then cull them after just a few flowers burst (while the female plants are putting on early pistols/showing sex) so that everything doesn't get seeded, with this method you will have seeds, also thick buds that did not get pollinated, just the pre pistils get pollinated, and they are easy to pick out from the bottom of each harvested bud, I did this and got lots of buds but only like 35-50 seeds per plant, so I recommend trying it to everyone who wants extra seeds and fat fully developed ones while your buds are still at peak harvest.

Actully it's from my bag seed I got from another friend(Free K is the seeds I'm calling them in my current journal). Supposedly.

This friend of mine has 7 of those seeds planted.
2 here

And 4 others that look indica dominant.

Personally I know how to cure. This post is specifically for the plant that's happening in an outdoor environment. I enjoy indoors. First grow was even on here and I'm on 4th journal on RiU but have been growing indoor autos.



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Oh I see you've got a mixture of both indicas and sativas in your garden, that's the way to go really, you'll get a broader spectrum of cannabinoid constituents to medicate with rather a flat or narrow profile from just one variety.

Two beautifully growing sativas you have there, hopefully they will leave you soaring come harvest date, may they thrive and prosper for you friend.

mustbetribbin said:

Oh I see you've got a mixture of both indicas and sativas in your garden, that's the way to go really, you'll get a broader spectrum of cannabinoid constituents to medicate with rather a flat or narrow profile from just one variety.

Two beautifully growing sativas you have there, hopefully they will leave you soaring come harvest date, may they thrive and prosper for you friend.

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Yeah the mature plant from OP is at my friends house. He's growing it and I pop in for a check to see if everything is going ok.

He planted her in November in California, winter. Shes 7 months old.

Other plant in the back is unknown to me and he as it was a dropped seed.

The 2 sativa dominants I posted are same as OP.

I'll take photos this week of the other 4 plants that are indica dominant.

P.S.

I'm not growing this mutant plant my Old Timer friend is.

This might be her, back on April 19th he texted me this photo.

Zspy1985 said:

Personally I know how to cure. This post is specifically for the plant that's happening in an outdoor environment. I enjoy indoors. First grow was even on here and I'm on 4th journal on RiU but have been growing indoor autos.

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Ok my fault, sorry I do see why you would get upset if your friend didn't take your advice when you have proof that you know well, what you are doing.

Only thing I can think of is to try and make yourself available to offer your friend advice around when you know a harvest has been taken, so that you can guide him to take the proper steps and confirm that he is following along and allowing teamwork between this shared grow to occur between friends, all for a greater product in the end, I'm sure why he wouldn't agree to that.

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Ok my fault, sorry I do see why you would get upset if your friend didn't take your advice when you have proof that you know well, what you are doing.

Only thing I can think of is to try and make yourself available to offer your friend advice around when you know a harvest has been taken, so that you can guide him to take the proper steps and confirm that he is following along and allowing teamwork between this shared grow to occur between friend, all for a greater product in the end, I'm sure why he wouldn't agree to that.

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I fully agree. I just was figuring he knew how to grow outdoors already... my terrible stereotyping of a older gentlemen that is amazing to hang with and share updated knowledge on cannabis. Come to find out he has only been doing outdoors for 2ish years. But has had them stolen somehow before? I'm not sure how he would only be growing for 2 years but have people steal it.

He's doing great on the growing part but when the drying and curing gets lost on him. THC and other vital cannabinoids breaking down and turned to dust while sitting in paper bags for weeks to months.

I do plan on going over more and helping. I'm back on RiU and asking help here in the outdoor section as it's new to me and uncontrollable environments can wreck havoc. With my own personal grow under way I do plan on stepping up my growing game.