Anyone like shrooms?

ReAVeR

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nice post.....you should post this on shroomtalk if you haven't already..... nice homemade bags....
 

mycology101

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It is also up at shroomtalk. Thanks!

Shroomtalk is my favorite forum when it comes to talking shrooms. They actually just did a huge software upgrade and the place is looking sweet.
 

slabhead

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Howdy, very interesting post. So when I dry my wild shrooms they left a spore print. Can I use that for a colony? hmmm sure would beat wandering around the pastures.
 

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mycology101

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Howdy, very interesting post. So when I dry my wild shrooms they left a spore print. Can I use that for a colony? hmmm sure would beat wandering around the pastures.

You could, but it would be tricky.

There are about 1 million mold and bacterial spores per cubic foot of air that we breath. Breeding mushrooms has to be done in a sterile environment "the jar" so that the food for the mushroom isn't attacked by mold before the mycelium has a chance to take it over.

If you put some spores on a agar plate and let them germinate, you can sometimes isolate the mycelium from the other mold and bacteria that will most likely germinate too. Then you transfer to another clean agar plate, and continue until you have a clean culture to work with. This has to be done under a flowhood, or in a simple glove box, which is just a box that you can see through with two holes cut in the side to put your hands into once they have been sterilized.

This stops any drafts from moving contam particles into your work.
 

mycology101

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Thanks Tebor. That would have been a tough one to explain.

They are very fun, but you have to respect the power of tripping. That is all I can say about eating mushrooms.
 

Burnzy

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myco, say i buy 6 of these jars

http://mushbox.com/substrate-jars.html#order


what i would do is innoc them with a strain of my choice, then put them in a dark area untill they colonize? (have to keep them warm? room temp ok?)
once they are colonized, and i want to take the cakes out, what exactly do i put them on, and in? (put them in a container with verm covering a couple inches of the bottom and keep the humidity up?)

edit: from what i understand is i get those jars, let them colonize, put the cakes in a rubbermaid with a bunch of drilled holes in it to air exchange, spray it to keep humidity up, and let them grow...? do i need to expose them to light?
 

acepowerz

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I Have a friend who raises Cows and Bulls on his land some old black guy anyhow he lets me pick for free. I had shroomz for about 4 years straight but to quote Popi however you spell it. Ive had all I can standz and I cant standz NO MORE!!!
 

mycology101

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You can put your cakes in a tub with "perlite" not verm, in the bottom about a half inch. This should be kept misted, but not totally saturated with water.

Then you will want to mist and fan them two to three times a day. You can also do the fish tank stone thing along with the perlite to up the humidity.

Perlite doesnt absorb water like the verm. It simply increases the surface area in which to evaporate from by hundreds of times because of the surface area of all those little balls. Pretty cool huh?

I don't like cakes because you have to keep humidity at 100% instead of only 80% for the cased grain. They both work great though, and if you dont want to mess around waiting for the first harvest the BRF jars are pretty pimp.
 

Burnzy

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You can put your cakes in a tub with "perlite" not verm, in the bottom about a half inch. This should be kept misted, but not totally saturated with water.

Then you will want to mist and fan them two to three times a day. You can also do the fish tank stone thing along with the perlite to up the humidity.

Perlite doesnt absorb water like the verm. It simply increases the surface area in which to evaporate from by hundreds of times because of the surface area of all those little balls. Pretty cool huh?

I don't like cakes because you have to keep humidity at 100% instead of only 80% for the cased grain. They both work great though, and if you dont want to mess around waiting for the first harvest the BRF jars are pretty pimp.
alright couple more questions lol

do the shrooms need any light during any stage?
i was looking on mushbox and i didnt see any BRF jars, am i missing something or can i get those from a different site?
as far as a tub, does a clear rubbermaid with holes drilled into it work as a FC?
 

mycology101

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alright couple more questions lol

do the shrooms need any light during any stage?
i was looking on mushbox and i didnt see any BRF jars, am i missing something or can i get those from a different site?
as far as a tub, does a clear rubbermaid with holes drilled into it work as a FC?
Shroom don't really "need" light during any stage. During fruiting it can help to initiate pinning a little faster in certain strains, and it also tells the mushrooms which direction to grow.

This can be helpful because if they all grow straight up towards the light source, they won't be bumping into each other during formation which can cause aborts. This means that if a mushroom pin is touched by another pin, sometimes they just stop growing. Misting too heavily and to harshly can cause this to happen also, so remember just to give it a couple misting squirts from high above the mushrooms when they begin to form.

BRF jars are the jars you had posted a link to.

They either come in grain, or verm/brown rice flower. The grain jars are infected and then used to spread the mycelium to other food sources like manure, straw, coffee grounds, and or coir. The plastic, half pint jars have the food source already in them, so you just colonize and fruit. The different in the two methods comes down to the fact that BRF jars need 100% humidity to fruit, and grain spawned to a bulk substrate needs only 80% because it has more surface area for evaporation.

I rubbermaid tub with holes cut in it works just fine. Remember to stuff the holes with polyfill pillow stuffing. This will trap and hold contam particles before they can touch your grow. "mostly" It isn't fool proof but it doesn help filter contams.

Don't feel bad asking questions. That is why I am here. =)
 

Burnzy

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Where can i get the pillow stuffing? Do you just stick as much as you can in the holes?
 

mycology101

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You can get it at any fabric store. "Great place to meet hot chicks by the way. They always want to know wtf you are doing in there though so have a story ready. :P"

Anyways, yes you just stuff it as full as you can from the outside. Works just fine and it's easy.
 
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