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printer said:
So it is up to the actor to check the lighting he is under, that they are well secured? The whole point of having an armourer is to offload the responsibility and risk from the actor. If you do not like it that is fine. But the armourer I talked to said that he was hired to provide just that function. I have my license to use firearms, it would not bother me for an actor to go through a two day course. But dambed if I would trust an actor to ensure my safety with him pointing a gun at me.
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He/she is just arguing for the sake of wasting oxygen. Of fucking course it’s the armorers responsibility FFS. It’s not at all like driving a truck, the driver is licenced, how many actors are trained in firearms safety, it’s not their job and it was a stupid analogy. The arguments spewing just get more ridicules. In saying that, if the wheel falls of the truck and kills someone im pretty sure they would look at the tire dude for answers and his insurance info, just say’n lol.
 
I don’t place blame on the actor but i dont think hes free of all responsibility. Why are real firearms even used on set. If they can make a convincing millennium falcon they can make a convincing replica of any firearm. Not only a real working functioning firearm but real, live ammunition for it? Absolutely suspect imo
 
Budley Doright said:
He/she is just arguing for the sake of wasting oxygen. Of fucking course it’s the armorers responsibility FFS. It’s not at all like driving a truck, the driver is licenced, how many actors are trained in firearms safety, it’s not their job and it was a stupid analogy. The arguments spewing just get more ridicules. In saying that, if the wheel falls of the truck and kills someone im pretty sure they would look at the tire dude for answers and his insurance info, just say’n lol.
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printer said:
So it is up to the actor to check the lighting he is under, that they are well secured? The whole point of having an armourer is to offload the responsibility and risk from the actor. If you do not like it that is fine. But the armourer I talked to said that he was hired to provide just that function. I have my license to use firearms, it would not bother me for an actor to go through a two day course. But dambed if I would trust an actor to ensure my safety with him pointing a gun at me.
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I get what you're saying. We've grown accustomed to a system of limited liability here in the West. I'm not sure trigger control could be in the Armorers wheelhouse anymore than throttle control in a mechanics.
 
Budley Doright said:
He/she is just arguing for the sake of wasting oxygen. Of fucking course it’s the armorers responsibility FFS. It’s not at all like driving a truck, the driver is licenced, how many actors are trained in firearms safety, it’s not their job and it was a stupid analogy. The arguments spewing just get more ridicules. In saying that, if the wheel falls of the truck and kills someone im pretty sure they would look at the tire dude for answers and his insurance info, just say’n lol.
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Are vehicles designed to kill?
 
bam0813 said:
I don’t place blame on the actor but i dont think hes free of all responsibility. Why are real firearms even used on set. If they can make a convincing millennium falcon they can make a convincing replica of any firearm. Not only a real working functioning firearm but real, live ammunition for it? Absolutely suspect imo
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It's not uncommon. They have live fire practice near sets often. But that raises another question right, is safety on the live fire range the Armorers responsibility as well?
 
The trouble from what I understood it, but I did not pay attention to it to its conclusion, is that they were using the gun during their downtime to do some target practice. "Oh wow, that is what it is to fire one of these things." There should not have been any real ammunition on the location. Period. The rounds are suppose to be blanks, no mistaking the real cartridges for blanks as there is the nasty bullet at the end of it. The armourer is suppose to inspect the gun to ensure there is no real cartridges in the gun. Once that is done the gun is loaded by him and placed on a table marked for inspected guns. A wide ribbon can be tied to the trigger guard gun and only removed before the shot (same as bombs loaded onto fighter aircraft). I was also told that the armourer was to show the actor the gun was safe before handing the actor the gun. Following these rules it will be pretty hard for someone to get shot.

ActionianJacksonian said:
Are vehicles designed to kill?
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No, but they have been shown to kill a person or two.

ActionianJacksonian said:
It's not uncommon. They have live fire practice near sets often. But that raises another question right, is safety on the live fire range the Armorers responsibility as well?
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And what good purpose is there to have live fire practice on the set? There should be no live ammo on set. Obviously the shooting and killing of the director is proof of the concept.
 
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First car my brother bought, I think it was a '72 around '79. Paid $50 for it at a car lot. My brother tried to get them to throw in a spare. Afterwards he though about it and thought he shouldn't bitch too much about it not having a spare. Drove him to pick it up after he got the plates, he got a bloke from the lot and it died. Towed it home and we found out the timing belt broke. Replaced it and it lasted a year. Can not remember what happened to it but he got another one after that, a hatchback. That one was a little better car, think he paid $2,000 for it. It was a fun car.
 
printer said:
First car my brother bought, I think it was a '72 around '79. Paid $50 for it at a car lot. My brother tried to get them to throw in a spare. Afterwards he though about it and thought he shouldn't bitch too much about it not having a spare. Drove him to pick it up after he got the plates, he got a bloke from the lot and it died. Towed it home and we found out the timing belt broke. Replaced it and it lasted a year. Can not remember what happened to it but he got another one after that, a hatchback. That one was a little better car, think he paid $2,000 for it. It was a fun car.
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This was when AMC was still a going concern.

The Gremlin looked unfinished, like the designer took a vodka nap.

The Pacer, now, that looked deliberate. Like a chocolate bunny that got left in the sun.
 
cannabineer said:
This was when AMC was still a going concern.

The Gremlin looked unfinished, like the designer took a vodka nap.

The Pacer, now, that looked deliberate. Like a chocolate bunny that got left in the sun.
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Looked like they took two cars and chopped out the center section to make a short two door with the Gremlin. At least with the Pacer they designed for their target demographic, takeout delivery people.
 
printer said:
Looked like they took two cars and chopped out the center section to make a short two door with the Gremlin. At least with the Pacer they designed for their target demographic, takeout delivery people.
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and visiting teachers from the Fatherland. We had a school back east that was accredited by West Germany to award the Abitur.
 
cannabineer said:
and visiting teachers from the Fatherland. We had a school back east that was accredited by West Germany to award the Abitur.
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When there was a West Germany and an East. We joked (when I was working) we have control equipment running a hospital complex that has 'Made in West Germany' on them.
 
printer said:
When there was a West Germany and an East. We joked (when I was working) we have control equipment running a hospital complex that has 'Made in West Germany' on them.
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For another decade. Mouton celebrated with their annual art label.

Approximate translation: “over there are* now here”.
*second person plural

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printer said:
First car my brother bought, I think it was a '72 around '79. Drove him to pick it up after he got the plates, he got a bloke from the lot and it died. Towed it home and we found out the timing belt broke.
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The '72 Pinto didn't have a timing belt- it's a pushrod motor, like my '80 Fiesta except the Pinto had a semi-chambered head and the Fiesta has a flat head
 
cannabineer said:
This was when AMC was still a going concern.

The Gremlin looked unfinished, like the designer took a vodka nap.

The Pacer, now, that looked deliberate. Like a chocolate bunny that got left in the sun.
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My second car was a Gremlin, 3 speed standard. Man, it was ugly but went like a bat out of hell.
 
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