Are these on schedule?

ParkDrive

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Hi, I've been flowering the below for 9 weeks (they showed sex just over 8 weeks ago) and the buds seem a little light and airy to me, going by photos of other grows I've seen around this time. Are they just maturing slowly, and I'll see a growth spurt in the coming weeks, or are they just not very healthy - if it's possible to eyeball a guess? Thanks for any advice.

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diet coke

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So there about 6 weeks in ? I count from when the stretch stops not from first pistol (able to tell sex.)

I would say a 2 more weeks may just be the plant.
 

hornedfrog2000

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Count from the day you flip to 12/12. Your flowers are taking a long time because you have burnt the shit out of them with excess veg nutrients.
 

ganjaman87

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Yeah they are toast.....if I were you I would try and fix them while starting over with a new plant also because even if you fix that plant there its going to take a while for it to be ready for harvest so you might as well get started on another
 

ganjaman87

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Also post more info like PPM and PH levels those are the 2 most important elements IMO you can have the brightest lights and best set up but if your PPM and PH are out of wack you're going to have a gang of problems it looks like your plant has major deficiencies in that third pic
 

ParkDrive

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Damn, I spent over $700 on my setup and my plants are still not happy. Thanks for replies. hornedfrog2000: Are you talking about the yellow leaves with dark brown spots? I didn't add any nutes during veg (used seed raiser soil and perlite, which I thought was extremely mild), and just used some generic NPK during flowering. I guess I'll go with coco or something next time. I thought the leaves were just going bad because all the energy was going into the buds...
 

hornedfrog2000

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The leaves are probably showing multiple symptoms like lockout, and whatnot. I can tell you have too much nitrogen because you have the claw going on.
 

ganjaman87

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Damn, I spent over $700 on my setup and my plants are still not happy. Thanks for replies. hornedfrog2000: Are you talking about the yellow leaves with dark brown spots? I didn't add any nutes during veg (used seed raiser soil and perlite, which I thought was extremely mild), and just used some generic NPK during flowering. I guess I'll go with coco or something next time. I thought the leaves were just going bad because all the energy was going into the buds...
smh so you're saying you spend 700 on set up just to use some GENERIC flowering fert from Wal-Mart? C'mon man say it aint so....you're going to have to do some more research coco isn't going to help you. Also I would suggest you try growing in DWC if you're going to switch up it may seem intimidating compared to soil at first but its really very easy and unlike with soil if your having problems like lockout and stuff you can fix it right away with a res change
 

ParkDrive

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Yeah they are toast.....if I were you I would try and fix them while starting over with a new plant also because even if you fix that plant there its going to take a while for it to be ready for harvest so you might as well get started on another
Yeah, I've already got some new ones going, but same soil so who knows if it'll improve. My PH tester broke during veg and everything was fine then so I didn't bother replacing it - I'd heard PH doesn't really matter during soil grows, as well. But I'll definitely be testing it this week - is there anything obvious in those pics pointing towards PH issues, or is it just general unhealthy appearance? Thank you.
 

ganjaman87

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Yeah, I've already got some new ones going, but same soil so who knows if it'll improve. My PH tester broke during veg and everything was fine then so I didn't bother replacing it - I'd heard PH doesn't really matter during soil grows, as well. But I'll definitely be testing it this week - is there anything obvious in those pics pointing towards PH issues, or is it just general unhealthy appearance? Thank you.
Nute lockout is an effect of PH being out of range. When the PH is off the plant cant absorb all of the nutrients that it needs at once therefore some essential nutes will be "locked" out of the plant
 

ganjaman87

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And I dont really know too much about soil grows but I do know that Fox Farm soil seems to be the most popular amongst the soil community so if you have a local Hydro shop I would go pic some up
 

ParkDrive

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smh so you're saying you spend 700 on set up just to use some GENERIC flowering fert from Wal-Mart? C'mon man say it aint so....you're going to have to do some more research coco isn't going to help you. Also I would suggest you try growing in DWC if you're going to switch up it may seem intimidating compared to soil at first but its really very easy and unlike with soil if your having problems like lockout and stuff you can fix it right away with a res change
LOL. I know it's not great, it's just quite hard to get cannabis-specific feed where I live and I keep hearing that weed is a weed and just needs light and water and the right environment to grow in, so I spent money on extraction fans and lighting. More research is needed, it is very frustrating to have my plants failing so I'm feeling motivated. Thanks for taking the time to help, lat thing - do you think seed raising soil and perlite is an okay base to work with in general? Or is completely inert medium the way to go? DWC is something I'm going to do next year when I have more space, right now I must put discretion above all else.
The leaves are probably showing multiple symptoms like lockout, and whatnot. I can tell you have too much nitrogen because you have the claw going on.
Could that simply be from getting rootbound? Because that happened about 5 weeks ago and I dunno if they ever really settled into the new pots (water takes a while to drain through the roots, I have to smear the topsoil back over the roots after watering as it is only a thin layer that gets washed away and exposes them).
 

hornedfrog2000

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No, it's probably from excess nitrogen etc. Just don't use so much nutrients next time. Start with less, and it is easier to fix not enough nutrients than too much.
 

Shivaskunk

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Not a good idea to transplant in flower. Yes too much N for flowering period. Your plants are far from the worst you will see here so dont get discouraged. ...look into hempy growing for a soil like passive hydro experience.
 

ParkDrive

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Thanks everybody. I guess I overdid it with the NPK mix I was feeding them. Plus I transplanted them during flowering, and have't checked the PH in months. It's a hell of a lot more work than I expected to get some good buds, but I should be more prepared next time. Appreciate all the comments.
 
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