BeaverHuntr
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Stop we already know you are in cahoots with AZCS I was asking Cannofbliss.
Arizona strains
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RottenBoy
Active Member
in cahoots heh.. Actually as ive said before. I grow for myself. I'm not "in cahoots" with anyone. I just know a good thing when I see one. You're just mad because they kicked you off their forum.. Give up already and get back to the matter at hand.. 25 mile rule
P.S. If it weren't for AZCS how else was I going to buy SubCool seeds locally and legally?!?!?
Philosophist
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Fighting again huh?????
Oh you crazy guys you!
Im too happy to fight right now..... Just harvested more Plants AND my Gf made out with a slut at a bar on Exmas eve....... My smile is bullet proof son!
Oh you crazy guys you!
Im too happy to fight right now..... Just harvested more Plants AND my Gf made out with a slut at a bar on Exmas eve....... My smile is bullet proof son!
Philosophist
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BirdGymnastics....when you coming to Tucson to bring me genetics man^^ yout too Phxfire
MurshDawg
Active Member
I am with you, Phili. In the spirit of friendship; let's all sing the international friendship song! [video=youtube;FI3tGgD4nMk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI3tGgD4nMk[/video]
cannofbliss
Well-Known Member
nice of you to suggest something of the sorts...
however... none of that would apply to me...
PixiDustr
Active Member
I have two of the tops for tots medibud clones...and they ARE CRAP...haven't grown a bit. I just hope the toys got to where they needed to go. Since AZCS takes the rights of the members to grow, they don't need to put out quality clones...i mean they are for the AZCS 'outsiders'....oh and i'll mention AGAIN...they didn't ask for my AZ ID nor for my medical card stating I had growing rights....
Bird Gymnastics
New Member
And I stick to what I said before, lazy. It's okay though, they don't care to produce good genetics to those out there in search. On top of that you can now see why I say they are crap. Any real grower would know that not only different strains but different phenos will have needs that differ. Ha ha thanks for clarifying that they are beginnerswell i dont know azcs nor have i ever seen how good or shitty their op is but ill dive in blindly to make a possible point on what that looks like he is doing...
as he said and was a sampling of cuttings/clones in a TEST setting to see which nutrients work better on which strains...
advanced growers and breeders do this all of the time to get the most accurate tweaking of which nute product will work the best for which strain...
and since they are working with cuttings... this makes the "control" of the test that much more accurate due to the fact that the clones will all be from the same strain
now if he has like 5 or 6 different phenos and or 5-6 different strains of cannabis in the same bucket with them all sharing the same nutrient solution then that would make him pretty lazy shitty and dumb to do a test on which nutes work best with which strain...
because then he is just complicating and things and would be much easier and incredibly more accurate to just take only 2 cuts of each pheno of the same strain... this is because each pheno will react completely different to the % of npk ratios and if you have too many strains or phenos in the mix you wont be able to narrow down what nute did what
so in order to get an accurate sampling you would have to isolate down to the ppm and chemical composition of the nutrients to "dial" in on which works the best for each specific pheno and or strain more or less on an individual basis...
but in a nice way.According to AZCS patient to patient is illegal...BirdGymnastics....when you coming to Tucson to bring me genetics man^^ yout too Phxfire
Philosophist
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What are good ways to learn how to differntly feed your plants??And I stick to what I said before, lazy. It's okay though, they don't care to produce good genetics to those out there in search. On top of that you can now see why I say they are crap. Any real grower would know that not only different strains but different phenos will have needs that differ. Ha ha thanks for clarifying that they are beginners
According to AZCS patient to patient is illegal...
I am running 4 diferent strains and have been feeding them the same days, and with teh same nutes/water.....
How can i up my game and learn to detect what plants need more, and which less???
Bill Hayes
Active Member
And I stick to what I said before, lazy. It's okay though, they don't care to produce good genetics to those out there in search. On top of that you can now see why I say they are crap. Any real grower would know that not only different strains but different phenos will have needs that differ. Ha ha thanks for clarifying that they are beginners
According to AZCS patient to patient is illegal...
what a joke, rather than annihilate you publicly I'd rather extend an invitation to do it privately. Make sure you bring a cam with ya.
8376 N El Mirage rd, El Mirage Arizona, 85335.
I get to work around 430 am and I'm there until 5pm everyday so whenever you wanna learn how to grow from clone come on down
Just saw two different pics and a vid of people with medibud clones that are ALL over watered. Funny thing, they were all in soil.
My thoughts are you newbs complaining must have forgot they were rooted in Rockwool cubes when you transplanted so now you are consistently over watering them.
Post pics of you clones with your complaints would ya, love to see them.
here's a vid of what we have done with the SAME GENETICS, every plant you see in this video NOT on a tray is a medibud plant. You can TRACK EVERY PLANT from all of our videos and photo albums.
I even put a special clip in there just for all you Medibud doubters lol
First we burned the plant you'll see me clone, then we starved her, then we over watered her, then she got PM from being outside, then she got mites and pyth really bad. She has been in crazy light patterns, dark for days sometimes, lights on for days others, no schedule whatsoever as we planned on letting her die and didn't care, LAZY lol.
Call me lazy, lmao, come do work, put up or shut up. Come hang with me for ONE SHIFT, one full shift and see how lazy I truly am.
I dare ya Pixi
and FYI patient to patient IS illegal, the very reason we have NOT touched our own site, azp2p.com silly rabbits. Why someone wanna buy it from me??
[video=youtube;EFpeZW0sjkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpeZW0sjkI&context=C3473f02ADOEgsToPDskJN rjV1R5tKqJ_jkhAH_DC0[/video]
Bill Hayes
Active Member
if your in dirt or soiless, monitor your run off. If your in hydro, only time, trial and error will get those ladies dialed in. Make as few changes as possible and try your hardest to accurately record everything you do.
One sure fire way is to keep raising the ppm every other day or every third until you see tip burns, once you do see the burn its usually whatever ppm your at PRIOR to actualling seeing it because by the time you see a problem with your plants it has already occurred and is usually well under way.
One example would be our house strain, Medibud, which is well discussed in this thread. What isn't discussed is how much WE feed them prior to you getting them or how much WE feed them ourselves at what stage.
You would think if people were having problems with lack luster growth from a plant that notoriously is a HUGE commercial producer they would ask the cultivator they got it from what and how much to feed the plants.
We have people that come in to the co-op all the time that are growing Medibud and their only complaint is how it will overgrow your grow room, or how it never seems to eat enough.
Feel free to come get a Medibud clone and feeding schedule on me, anytime. You can be the proof for me
Philosophist
Well-Known Member
I am in Soil, so Monitor it for what?? PPM? or what?
I am VERY new so im not quite sure.
An i might just take you up on the Medibud clone, been wanting to try some of that.
Just wish everyone here could at LEAST TRY to respectful...if not nice at least respect
No one here thought AZCS would still be open, after they shut everyone down, they are still up and expanding. Sooooooo for better or worse, respect game when game is tight.
And dont PM me with any shit about "AZCS turncoat" like last time i tried to get everyone to get along......(or ill break your stubby resin stained fingers) ^^
I am VERY new so im not quite sure.
An i might just take you up on the Medibud clone, been wanting to try some of that.
Just wish everyone here could at LEAST TRY to respectful...if not nice at least respect
No one here thought AZCS would still be open, after they shut everyone down, they are still up and expanding. Sooooooo for better or worse, respect game when game is tight.
And dont PM me with any shit about "AZCS turncoat" like last time i tried to get everyone to get along......(or ill break your stubby resin stained fingers) ^^
Scupra
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I gotta give you respect for seeing this. I know a bunch of crap went down here and its good to see people still get along after all that.
PixiDustr
Active Member
I never called you lazy...how 'bout I return my clones and we call it even...two pics...first one is the day after i got them...second one is this evening...as you can see in the 13 days I have had them they have not grown and are yellowing. My other clone...purple urkle...under EXACT same conditions is going gangbusters...the medibuds are either really LATE bloomers or are weaklings...i lean toward weaklings
what a joke, rather than annihilate you publicly I'd rather extend an invitation to do it privately. Make sure you bring a cam with ya.
8376 N El Mirage rd, El Mirage Arizona, 85335.
I get to work around 430 am and I'm there until 5pm everyday so whenever you wanna learn how to grow from clone come on down
Just saw two different pics and a vid of people with medibud clones that are ALL over watered. Funny thing, they were all in soil.
My thoughts are you newbs complaining must have forgot they were rooted in Rockwool cubes when you transplanted so now you are consistently over watering them.
Post pics of you clones with your complaints would ya, love to see them.
here's a vid of what we have done with the SAME GENETICS, every plant you see in this video NOT on a tray is a medibud plant. You can TRACK EVERY PLANT from all of our videos and photo albums.
I even put a special clip in there just for all you Medibud doubters lol
First we burned the plant you'll see me clone, then we starved her, then we over watered her, then she got PM from being outside, then she got mites and pyth really bad. She has been in crazy light patterns, dark for days sometimes, lights on for days others, no schedule whatsoever as we planned on letting her die and didn't care, LAZY lol.
Call me lazy, lmao, come do work, put up or shut up. Come hang with me for ONE SHIFT, one full shift and see how lazy I truly am.
I dare ya Pixi
and FYI patient to patient IS illegal, the very reason we have NOT touched our own site, azp2p.com silly rabbits. Why someone wanna buy it from me??
[video=youtube;EFpeZW0sjkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpeZW0sjkI&context=C3473f02ADOEgsToPDskJN rjV1R5tKqJ_jkhAH_DC0[/video]
Bird Gymnastics
New Member
Just so everything is straightened out, I was the one that called you lazy. Just because you have a lot of plants and multiple systems does not make what you do hard. What I was referring to was what cannabliss has already confirmed. The systems you are running IMO are lazy. Having every plant in your ebb and grow, plus your flood tables, all getting the same exact feedings. Coming from a TRUE ALL ORGANIC GROWER, every plant has its special needs, and according to how your systems are set up you could careless about that. Instead of having all one strain in your tables I can see at least 4 different strains. Which goes back to my initial statement saying you are lazy.what a joke, rather than annihilate you publicly I'd rather extend an invitation to do it privately. Make sure you bring a cam with ya.
8376 N El Mirage rd, El Mirage Arizona, 85335.
I get to work around 430 am and I'm there until 5pm everyday so whenever you wanna learn how to grow from clone come on down
Just saw two different pics and a vid of people with medibud clones that are ALL over watered. Funny thing, they were all in soil.
My thoughts are you newbs complaining must have forgot they were rooted in Rockwool cubes when you transplanted so now you are consistently over watering them.
Post pics of you clones with your complaints would ya, love to see them.
here's a vid of what we have done with the SAME GENETICS, every plant you see in this video NOT on a tray is a medibud plant. You can TRACK EVERY PLANT from all of our videos and photo albums.
I even put a special clip in there just for all you Medibud doubters lol
First we burned the plant you'll see me clone, then we starved her, then we over watered her, then she got PM from being outside, then she got mites and pyth really bad. She has been in crazy light patterns, dark for days sometimes, lights on for days others, no schedule whatsoever as we planned on letting her die and didn't care, LAZY lol.
Call me lazy, lmao, come do work, put up or shut up. Come hang with me for ONE SHIFT, one full shift and see how lazy I truly am.
I dare ya Pixi
and FYI patient to patient IS illegal, the very reason we have NOT touched our own site, azp2p.com silly rabbits. Why someone wanna buy it from me??
[video=youtube;EFpeZW0sjkI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpeZW0sjkI&context=C3473f02ADOEgsToPDskJN rjV1R5tKqJ_jkhAH_DC0[/video]
Now your medibud...congratulations that a WEED can survive under harsh conditions
isn't that what they are supposed to do?? Hence the name "WEED." I can and will show you that your plant isn't the only one that can do that. But coming from experience, the medicine that comes off the plants that are so resilient are mediocre. It's the plants that are very sensitive and HARD to grow that you receive TOP SHELF meds. I have yet to see any TOP SHELF meds come from your so called "compassion" club.Although I'd love to come down and help you, I have more pride in keeping my grow secrets to those that are worthy. What makes you think I would teach you everything? I mean hell, you can't even cut clones properly. Ha ha maybe next time, instead of trying to make your "house" strain look good, don't make yourself look like a noob in the grow world. To me and probably all the experience growers, after seeing that videos we are glad we are ahead of the curve when it comes to you. Big, hearty commercial strains are out my friend...try getting some strains that actually yield GOOD medicine rather then ALOT of medicine. It's all about quality over quantity, ESPECIALLY when dealing with patients.
Bird Gymnastics
New Member
After seeing this post, please don't waste your time with medibud. Hell I'll go take some real cuts now so you aren't disappointed in the harvest with that medibud. Before agreeing to take some of these medibud clones, why don't you ask Mr.Hayes what the genealogy of this "Medibud" is? I know what it is but let's see if he is honest....
IMO the reason why everyone that grabs that strain from you loves it is because they don't know better. It is noobs learning from noobs. It's cool though, just makes what I do and what I tell patients look that much better As far as monitoring goes, I'd start off by literally writing everything down, from the way your leaves look to how fast they are growing, climate conditions, nutes used and how often etc. it takes awhile to really tune in to your room and/or plants. If using organics, PPMs literally mean nothing. A lot of organic nutes aren't all picked up with a TDS meter so it's useless. What I do is measure my PH going in and then coming out. Having a good medium will ensure that your runoff ph stays very close if not exact to that of what you poured in. IMO the best and fastest way to figure out what works best is do one run of all one strain. Mark the plants, A, B, #1 or #2, whatever makes you more comfortable lol. When mixing nutes keep it very SIMPLE. Only add one different additive and vice versa. A couple runs might suffer yield wise, but you will truly see what works best and be able to pinpoint what nutrient did what. IMO keep it SIMPLE, as you move on and get more harvests under your belt, you will finely tune your simple set up and have some of the best around. I can GUARENTEE that!
fatboyOGOF
Well-Known Member
living in phoenix, we used to get all the good stuff! the acapulco gold was really something special. it was a great high, smelled great and was beautiful too. then, a few years later, low life scum growers started doing something to their regular mexican that made the pot kinda yellowish (this was not paraquat) and would try to push that drek off as gold. this is why you'll find some people who will say that the gold was nothing special, they never got the real deal! it was good to be a pot seller back in the day, we took care of our own first, the rest of you all got what we couldn't smoke!
Wolfhound
Active Member
Thanks Philo for the reminder, RESPECT is the only way we can get the most out of our chance meetings here. I hate disagreeing & the next post getting called childish names. Does nothing for anyone involved. I am as guilty as anyone for retaliations when attacked & need to work a bit harder at exchanging good info instead of ego busting bull.
jayco420
Active Member
WOULD EVERYONE STFU ABOUT IT BEING ILLEGAL.
http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/faqs/patients.htm#Q26 QUESTION 30 AND ANSWERED BY AZDHS
YOU CAN TRADE PATIENT TO PATIENT
Bill go the fuck back to your boards and let us have our opinion
and stop growing more then 99 plants at a time ( plant is definded as any part of the plant )in one place your vedios to the veds is evidence.
http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/faqs/patients.htm#Q26 QUESTION 30 AND ANSWERED BY AZDHS
YOU CAN TRADE PATIENT TO PATIENT
Bill go the fuck back to your boards and let us have our opinion
and stop growing more then 99 plants at a time ( plant is definded as any part of the plant )in one place your vedios to the veds is evidence.