AsianKatie's First Grow (Indoor)
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asiankatie
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aww why thank you ^_^ its about time too. they were looking pretty bad for a couple days there
wafflehouselover
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i wouldn't cut that off if i were you, you already have 5 plants in there when you start flowering you'll have a bush already, if u chop that off you'll get a bigger bush which will block alot of light to lower bud sites.
asiankatie
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OKAY
asiankatie
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Still growing and such, I didnt top yet, still a little unsure if i should. Ill take some pictures tomorrow. got a tiny tiny yellow dot on one of the fan leaves of the survivor i figure this means add more nutes. so i put a little more of the cal/mag and the foxfarm.
pH is at about 5.8
PPM is at 435
pH is at about 5.8
PPM is at 435
asiankatie
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so the males have little testesfemale.
male.
wafflehouselover
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males have multi testes lol
asiankatie
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UPDATE:
havent 'topped' anything yet. still deciding if its a good idea.
Here's an overshot of everyone:
Day 21 of survivor:
It's growing more. ^_^ Heres a top view
and here's a shot (sorry for the blurryness) but you can kinda see this tiny leaves in the nooks of the branches?? what are these?
Round 2 (day 16): theres aren't exactly growing like the survivor was, the survivor was a lot taller @ these points but I think theyre shorter because i pulled them down in the rockwool. So theyre super bushy and short.
Heres the bottom right looking really nice still recovering but all new leaves seem to be doing really well
The top left is doing well too. it's probably the least "messed up" from the nute issue of all of the round 2 set:
I didnt take a picture of the attacked one (bottom left) it's looking okay...
and the survivor's coming along just fine as well.
Heres the roots the water is really not that dirty looking:
^the survivor's roots are getting really long.
So all in all everyone seems to be doing alright: yesterday i think, i added some more nutes of foxfarm and the calcium because is spotted a tiny yellow dot on one of the leaves of the survivor. no more have come up so i think that did the job.
The ppm is kinda rising though,
PPM: 449
pH: 5.8 had to stabalize that the other day.
I was contemplating on thursday (tomorrow) doing the water change and switching to flora nova. I'll be out of town again this weekend. Going to Napa Valley, for my birthday ^________^
havent 'topped' anything yet. still deciding if its a good idea.
Here's an overshot of everyone:
Day 21 of survivor:
It's growing more. ^_^ Heres a top view
and here's a shot (sorry for the blurryness) but you can kinda see this tiny leaves in the nooks of the branches?? what are these?
Round 2 (day 16): theres aren't exactly growing like the survivor was, the survivor was a lot taller @ these points but I think theyre shorter because i pulled them down in the rockwool. So theyre super bushy and short.
Heres the bottom right looking really nice still recovering but all new leaves seem to be doing really well
The top left is doing well too. it's probably the least "messed up" from the nute issue of all of the round 2 set:
I didnt take a picture of the attacked one (bottom left) it's looking okay...
and the survivor's coming along just fine as well.
Heres the roots the water is really not that dirty looking:
^the survivor's roots are getting really long.
So all in all everyone seems to be doing alright: yesterday i think, i added some more nutes of foxfarm and the calcium because is spotted a tiny yellow dot on one of the leaves of the survivor. no more have come up so i think that did the job.
The ppm is kinda rising though,
PPM: 449
pH: 5.8 had to stabalize that the other day.
I was contemplating on thursday (tomorrow) doing the water change and switching to flora nova. I'll be out of town again this weekend. Going to Napa Valley, for my birthday ^________^
Gygax1974
Just some idiot
I said it earlier and so has trapper, you can top. It will turn into a bush if you don't cut off the lower growth. So top cut lower branches, maybe use these for cloning. What happens when you top is it concentrates on lower growth giving you a bush. But if you top wait about a week for the plant to recover and trim maybe the lowest two branches off and then trim the next two etc. Then all the growth is switched to the top and your "multiple" colas. By the time you flower you want the bottom 1/3 or so of the plant trimmed. All of your growth and budding will be concentrated in the top. Waffle house is right but if you trim the bottom up you are golden, I wish I had my camera...I might run out and get one tonight. I have some pictures of some plants I've done this way. Topping usually increases yield, some strains don't like it much but more like it than don't like it.
asiankatie
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right but my worry is that, i dont want them to get too bushy because of room.. so you think i should cut off the very bottom branches? i think that would be okay, since they are all yellow from that lack of supplement issue. do i just cut them right off? as you can see with the round 2 they have about 3 layers of nodes probably 1 less than the larger? the survivor i think is so tall because it stretched early on. where as the little ones did but i moved them down in the rockwool. the DUD seed i didnt do this too. it was growing from where it did when i planted it just like the survivor.
So wait, so give me a checklist:
cut the bottom layer of branches off the survivor plant?
then what?
asiankatie
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^^ wait i thought topping was lopping off the literal top of the plant? so effectively i want it to grow upward as little as possible and more OUTWARD. but where are these new branches coming from? sorry im confused. i just dont want to do it and do it wrong ya know cuz it's not like once i do it i can backtrack.
skunkushybrid
New Member
When you top, all the growth wil go into the lower branches (obviously). The lower branches will then become the new top branches... You'll have four to six main colas instead of just one. Although the plant will be shorter and wider. If height is a problem, then this is the way you should go.
Trimming the lower branches is good if you don't mind your plants reaching their normal height potential. As the plant grows these branches will not get much light and won't produce very much in the way of bud, by trimming these branches all of the growth goes into the surviving branches. Which will make the buds on them thicker. Ever seen that film called 'The One' with Jet Li?
Trimming these lower branches is also good for clones, preventing mold, helps circulation, prevents insects etc etc.
I only use topping on my mom plants.
Trimming the lower branches is good if you don't mind your plants reaching their normal height potential. As the plant grows these branches will not get much light and won't produce very much in the way of bud, by trimming these branches all of the growth goes into the surviving branches. Which will make the buds on them thicker. Ever seen that film called 'The One' with Jet Li?
Trimming these lower branches is also good for clones, preventing mold, helps circulation, prevents insects etc etc.
I only use topping on my mom plants.
asiankatie
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I dont know which is female on any of them? I don't know if I should clone I don't really have anywhere to put them after they root.
I;ll take some more pictures today and someone give me a clear precise place to cut
I;ll take some more pictures today and someone give me a clear precise place to cut
FaCultGen
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it's way to early to clone anyway, i see you got a tds meter, thats good.
and also i was reading that your already using nutrients... as i have found out the hard way, using nutrients at this early of a stage is bad, most likely that little spot is nute burn, thats exactly how mine started and it will get worse and worse untill your plants are all f'd up, if the spotting gets worse in the next couple days you need to just use water for a while or you will regret it. i am still desperatly trying to save my plants from the nute burn... i didn't know what it was and they went 2 weeks or so with ppm of about 400 and are still all messed up even after 2 weeks of flushing.
but I could be wrong, check with your buddy Gyp, just to make sure.
-Cult
and also i was reading that your already using nutrients... as i have found out the hard way, using nutrients at this early of a stage is bad, most likely that little spot is nute burn, thats exactly how mine started and it will get worse and worse untill your plants are all f'd up, if the spotting gets worse in the next couple days you need to just use water for a while or you will regret it. i am still desperatly trying to save my plants from the nute burn... i didn't know what it was and they went 2 weeks or so with ppm of about 400 and are still all messed up even after 2 weeks of flushing.
but I could be wrong, check with your buddy Gyp, just to make sure.
-Cult
asiankatie
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Actually it wasn't nute burn it was like nute depletion. it's not that early the survivor plant is in its 3rd week. and as soon as i added the nutes, a couple days later it went away, i havent seen any yellowing since then. it wasn't so much nutes as it was a depletion of calcium and magnesium. worked like a charm
asiankatie
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UPDATE:
So i think ive decided to NOT top our survivor. or if i do, to do it when i come back. im afraid that in topping it, it will get more bushy and take over more of the light which needed for those plants in round 2, they're already growing slow enough as it is without this MONSTER blocking out the sun. I'll probably top one of the other ones as an experiment and do a topping of everyone on another grow. but lets play it by ear. I DO however appriciate everyones help with teaching me how. even though i still dont know exactly what im supposed to cut off. fuck. im dumb.
Gonna do a water change probably tonight, so it will be done for the weekend? I dunno, do you think it's time to do another one?
I'll post pH and ppm in a little bit. I'm too lazy and tired from uploading all these pictures to go check it but ill check before i go to school.
ANYWAY
our dear survivor IS growing like a weed!
Here's a shot of everyone:
Day 23 and she's already got another level @_@ i can't imagine what these babies are gonna look like when i get back sunday night.
Here's a side view:
Our Round 2 babies are on day 19 They seem to be growing slower than the survivor did. they have like 3 layers of leaves but theyre all smushed together, real short like... weird but theyre doing their thing...
Here's bottom Right:
Here's top Left:
And here's bottom left, which i havent really posted pictures of. she doesnt seem to be dong too well. i think it had something to do with my cat pulling out out through the rockwool. I think this one might have to be saying bye bye soon.
And lastly here is our DUD, coming along really great. on Day?? i dont remember. but looking good none the less.
So i think ive decided to NOT top our survivor. or if i do, to do it when i come back. im afraid that in topping it, it will get more bushy and take over more of the light which needed for those plants in round 2, they're already growing slow enough as it is without this MONSTER blocking out the sun. I'll probably top one of the other ones as an experiment and do a topping of everyone on another grow. but lets play it by ear. I DO however appriciate everyones help with teaching me how. even though i still dont know exactly what im supposed to cut off. fuck. im dumb.
Gonna do a water change probably tonight, so it will be done for the weekend? I dunno, do you think it's time to do another one?
I'll post pH and ppm in a little bit. I'm too lazy and tired from uploading all these pictures to go check it but ill check before i go to school.
ANYWAY
our dear survivor IS growing like a weed!
Here's a shot of everyone:
Day 23 and she's already got another level @_@ i can't imagine what these babies are gonna look like when i get back sunday night.
Here's a side view:
Our Round 2 babies are on day 19 They seem to be growing slower than the survivor did. they have like 3 layers of leaves but theyre all smushed together, real short like... weird but theyre doing their thing...
Here's bottom Right:
Here's top Left:
And here's bottom left, which i havent really posted pictures of. she doesnt seem to be dong too well. i think it had something to do with my cat pulling out out through the rockwool. I think this one might have to be saying bye bye soon.
And lastly here is our DUD, coming along really great. on Day?? i dont remember. but looking good none the less.
charlesiii
Active Member
Get some co2 in there and you wont regret it. We started on pretty much the same day and mine are about three times the size and already into flowering. Remember i'm even using the shitty ag. Just a suggestion, plants are looking great! Good work!