Atami Wilma

Neto B. Good

New Member
Hello,

I am curious to know how the Wilma system works mainly in terms of solutions!

How often do I have to add the solutions?

Do I have to measure EC and PH every day to correct it?

Are there 15min of 3 to 4x a day that the system has to be activated?

How often do I have to add more water?
 

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
It depends on the medium, you can run it as a drip feed on coco or you can run it with hydroton.

With coco you can water it once or twice a day and its enough. If you have big plant/rootzones your going to go through more water per day.

You do not need to correct it every day , the ph can drift and then you top up with an ec and ph solution that balances out what is in the res.

Doing a res change every few weeks seems to work fine.

You do want to be checking your ec and ph daily to make sure its not going to an extreme , that's how you find your balance of what ec you should be running.
But you don't need to be adjusting the nutrient solution every day.
 

Neto B. Good

New Member
It depends on the medium, you can run it as a drip feed on coco or you can run it with hydroton.

With coco you can water it once or twice a day and its enough. If you have big plant/rootzones your going to go through more water per day.

You do not need to correct it every day , the ph can drift and then you top up with an ec and ph solution that balances out what is in the res.

Doing a res change every few weeks seems to work fine.

You do want to be checking your ec and ph daily to make sure its not going to an extreme , that's how you find your balance of what ec you should be running.
But you don't need to be adjusting the nutrient solution every day.

Hello! Thank you for the informations

I intend to grow in hydroton! I bought the small system with four 11l pots, I also acquired a panel that is outside the grow informing me of temperature, EC and PH. This first cycle I will use AH Start Kit + Atami ATA-Clean in a 60x60 size tent. Would three 15min per day watering be enough?
 

coreywebster

Well-Known Member
3 times during lights on is ok when they are small , with once at lights off, you want to be watering more often as they grow, better to water more often than not often enough.
 
With hydroton you're going to want to water more frequently. I run a similar drip recirculating dutch bucket system and water 10 min every hour even when the lights are out and they are lush and thriving.
 

Neto B. Good

New Member
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Com hydroton você vai querer regar com mais frequência. Eu corro um sistema de balde holandês recirculante por gotejamento semelhante e rego 10 minutos a cada hora, mesmo quando as luzes estão apagadas e estão exuberantes e prosperando.
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Com hydroton você vai querer regar com mais frequência. Eu corro um sistema de balde holandês recirculante por gotejamento semelhante e rego 10 minutos a cada hora, mesmo quando as luzes estão apagadas e estão exuberantes e prosperando.
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Aloha!
Understand! There are 24 waterings of 10min a day! Do you have or have problems with overfert?
 
I have no problems with over fert. My ppm is about 450-500 (1.0 EC) in veg. At this concentration my reservoir has a very slow ppm drop even as water level is dropping which seems ideal to me. 100ppm of CaMg and the rest GH MaxiGrow fert in RO water. the only downside I see to running the drip 24/7 is a humidity spike during lights out. I'm not advocating for lights out watering like my method but I have a very basic cycle timer and I just set it and forget it and it works for me.
 

Huktonponics

Well-Known Member
I run an 8 pot Wilma with Hydroton, but i use Air Pots Air-Pot-product_31.png

When lights are on i run 15 mins every hour and give them 1 watering mid way through the dark cycle.

No problems with over fert or over watering with my pots with hydroton in them, it works just like a hydrofarm. I dont think its possible to over water with these pots with hydroton in them.

I did a res change last night and set my PPM's to 1140, got up this morning and theyre at 1060, so they are eating it up and must love the frequent watering.

First time ive used these air pots as ive used the fabric pots in the past.
 

Neto B. Good

New Member
I run an 8 pot Wilma with Hydroton, but i use Air Pots View attachment 4588154

When lights are on i run 15 mins every hour and give them 1 watering mid way through the dark cycle.

No problems with over fert or over watering with my pots with hydroton in them, it works just like a hydrofarm. I dont think its possible to over water with these pots with hydroton in them.

I did a res change last night and set my PPM's to 1140, got up this morning and theyre at 1060, so they are eating it up and must love the frequent watering.

First time ive used these air pots as ive used the fabric pots in the past.
Thank you for your help!

I will follow your 15min watering recipe every hour, and a watering with the lights off!
I'm finishing a cycle this week and I'm using airpots and they are excellent!

Would you know how to talk about the table that comes in the Advanced Hydroponics starter kit? Is it advisable to follow the indicated measures or is it better to use half measures? In this case, I will use it in a Wilma system that contains 30L
 

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Huktonponics

Well-Known Member
What size air pots are you using ? I use the 5L pots on my system, im going to get the next size up for the next one and see if they fit on the top of the wilma.

Only reason i do 15 mins per hour is the air pots have lots of air flow in them, so you dont want the hydroton to dry out, and because it drains so well, it isnt going to over saturate them.

I couldnt tell you anything about those ferts as I dont know them at all. But i will say if you start at around 800ppm and see how well they eat and drink, go from there.

I tend to go half strength on all recommended doses and see how they go. Ive never gone full strength on the manufacturers doses.
 

Neto B. Good

New Member
What size air pots are you using ? I use the 5L pots on my system, im going to get the next size up for the next one and see if they fit on the top of the wilma.

Only reason i do 15 mins per hour is the air pots have lots of air flow in them, so you dont want the hydroton to dry out, and because it drains so well, it isnt going to over saturate them.

I couldnt tell you anything about those ferts as I dont know them at all. But i will say if you start at around 800ppm and see how well they eat and drink, go from there.

I tend to go half strength on all recommended doses and see how they go. Ive never gone full strength on the manufacturers doses.
Very well!
I use airpots with soil! It is my last cultivation with the soil, I am migrating to hydroponics and I became very interested in the Wilma system! But I have a lot of doubts mainly in the fertilization part!
Until then by the manual I am in mind to water 4 times a day 15min in the pots of 11L, I will not use airpot because mine are 3L
 

Huktonponics

Well-Known Member
@Neto B. Good

Id say when switching to hydro, go easy on the ferts and keep an eye on your PH more than anything. You should be alright with the Wilma, its pretty easy going. Get yourself some sort of additive to keep your drippers clean, I use somthing called ATA Clean. Try not to use anything with bio stimulants in ( personal preference ) I run sterile on both my wilma and Flood & Drain, clean and clear nutes, with a h2o2 additive called Silver Bullet Roots.

Try to read your plants and water / feed accordingly. You should be alright.
 

Neto B. Good

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Eu diria que quando mudar para hidro, vá devagar com os ferts e fique de olho no seu PH mais do que qualquer coisa. Você deve ficar bem com o Wilma, é bem fácil. Arranje algum tipo de aditivo para manter seus gotejadores limpos, eu uso algo chamado ATA Clean. Tente não usar nada com estimulantes biológicos em (preferência pessoal). Eu corro estéril tanto no wilma quanto no Flood & Drain, nuts limpos e limpos, com um aditivo de h2o2 chamado Silver Bullet Roots.

Tente ler suas plantas e regar / alimentar adequadamente. Você deveria ficar bem.
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Obrigado pela informação importante!
PH sempre 5.8 certo?
Eu comprei o Atami Drip Clean!
Vou usar esta linha do kit de hidroponia avançada e usá-la pela metade indicada, talvez deva adicionar um calmag! Mas eu sempre observarei as plantas para ter uma noção do que fazer
 

Huktonponics

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Eu diria que quando mudar para hidro, vá devagar com os ferts e fique de olho no seu PH mais do que qualquer coisa. Você deve ficar bem com o Wilma, é bem fácil. Arranje algum tipo de aditivo para manter seus gotejadores limpos, eu uso algo chamado ATA Clean. Tente não usar nada com estimulantes biológicos em (preferência pessoal). Eu corro estéril tanto no wilma quanto no Flood & Drain, nuts limpos e limpos, com um aditivo de h2o2 chamado Silver Bullet Roots.

Tente ler suas plantas e regar / alimentar adequadamente. Você deveria ficar bem.
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Thanks for the important information!

PH always 5.8 right?

I bought Atami Drip Clean!

I am going to use this line of the advanced hydroponics kit and use it in half indicated, maybe I should add a calmag! But I will always watch the plants to get a sense of what to do
Thank god for google translator lol

5.5 - 6.2 ph is where i like to drift between, again thats personal preference, you can go higher, but anything between there is fine.:cool:
 

Neto B. Good

New Member
Thank god for google translator lol

5.5 - 6.2 ph is where i like to drift between, again thats personal preference, you can go higher, but anything between there is fine.:cool:
Excuse! It turned out that google sent it in portuguese!
But ok, the ph part is fine, I'm still going to buy a PH - for Vega and Bloom
 

Sattiv

Member
Hy guys. I also i'm changing do a Wilma Atami 4x11l . In 2 months i will start with the Wilma, i have no experience, lets see how it goes to be.
 

changarian

Member
Hi everybody, want to share what I have experienced with Wilma

9x18l w clay pebbles

I always have a problem with the uneven output of the dripper. Never tried to solve it. Maybe a bigger pump would do it. I just switch the drippers around every other day. Works fine.

I have an airstone in the tank and a heater in the cold season.

Sometimes the root grows inside of the tank, be aware of that. The water cant drain and damage the plant or if not noticed even your floor. (At least with my wilma design)

Another unsolved problem is to get all the nutrient solution out of the tank when changing it. I use a pump and there is always a fair amount left in the system. I just top it with new NS.

I run an "experiment" atm only with big Rockwool cubes, no pots. 3rd week veg looking okay. I doubt I can't get them to flower. Rockwool seems indeed to wet and slow.
But if it works it'll save a lot of effort and water to clean and ph blance the pebbles. Also money.


Thats what I can think of right now about Wilma.
 

jecka

Member
Lads, new to growing, found out about this Wilma system. Sorry for my ignorance but will ask a few Qs. How often the fert/ solution has to be replaced? As far as I understand, the fert just circulates around a certain amount of time? What brands of organic ferts are the best for the solution purpose? True or false, that using hydroponics like this would reduce grow time? I mean our ESB rates now are soaring, thats why the main idea to switch to this from soil if its true. Thanks
 
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Sattiv

Member
Thank you for your help!

I will follow your 15min watering recipe every hour, and a watering with the lights off!
I'm finishing a cycle this week and I'm using airpots and they are excellent!

Would you know how to talk about the table that comes in the Advanced Hydroponics starter kit? Is it advisable to follow the indicated measures or is it better to use half measures? In this case, I will use it in a Wilma system that contains 30L
I) use the same nuts as you, everyday my PH changes from 5,8 to 6,8 the EC is 710ppm . Do you have the same isue with the PH ?
 
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