Atheism

shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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COME ON, READ WHAT YOU WROTE SLOWLY AND THINK. Your little experience with a confused teen isn't really relevant and gives you zero insight into the truth. This is just one example of how you lock your brain down, hold your flimsy opinion over the truth, and aren't learning shit.
period.
We aren't playing around, it's how we are and how you are raised has nothing to do with it. Daddy didn't molest me etc, mommy didn't turn me this way, and we are not confused about any of it. Silliness.


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Babs34

Babs34

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Katatawnic said:
I don't care that you first discussed homosexuality with Morgen, and not me. If you don't want others "jumping in" on your conversations, then don't have them on public boards. That simple. However, that's what you did, and I responded with an explanation of my life in the hopes of just possibly helping you to see that not all people who aren't 100% gay or straight aren't necessarily "trying on" homosexuality, or however the hell you're choosing to rephrase it now. You did immediately tell me that you appreciate my honesty about my "excursions" but that there is "either/or" and the "fact" is that there is "always" a preference: either gay or straight, but not bisexual. This was right before you brought up your friend who "wasn't" bisexual (though she hit on you, a woman; go figure). I'm not stupid, I have excellent reading comprehension, and I know exactly what you said. Interesting that I (and others) can see the timeline, yet you can't seem to recall what you said and when; never mind that it's still right there.

Whatever, Babs. I don't care. If you so desperately need to be "right" in this, then so be it... you're right, I'm wrong, I reamed you for no reason, and I'm just plain delusional. You're a really, really swell gal who hasn't deserved a single derogatory remark from anyone, ever. You've never gone Histrionic on anyone, you don't say one thing then play Victim when you're called on your statements, and you certainly don't try to rewrite recent history such as your posts that are still there for everyone to see. Everyone just has it out for you, with no reason and no provocation.

Happy?

I told you "enough" hours ago, dear. I said I'd had "more than enough" of you, to be precise. Keep proclaiming your innocence. Continued repetition will ensure that you'll be able to believe it, if no one else.

Now, where is that "ignore" feature again? :cool:
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...in your mind.
 
Babs34

Babs34

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shnkrmn said:
COME ON, READ WHAT YOU WROTE SLOWLY AND THINK. Your little experience with a confused teen isn't really relevant and gives you zero insight into the truth. This is just one example of how you lock your brain down, hold your flimsy opinion over the truth, and aren't learning shit.
period.
We aren't playing around, it's how we are and how you are raised has nothing to do with it. Daddy didn't molest me etc, mommy didn't turn me this way, and we are not confused about any of it. Silliness.


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I'd like to clarify-it is not "my" little experience with a teen. It was my friend.

I'll be fair and tell you that you are understandably not following that my response was ENTIRELY relevant. You can't see that because you did not follow this other said thread, ok?

.....no flimsy opinion.........
My friend was not a lesbian, nor was she bi. Does that truly seem impossible to you?

In any event, it is just the way it is. She had less self-esteem than just about any I have encountered.

No need to be defensive.

LOL, HAHAHAHA.....if I had just known there were so many gay/bi sexual people posting on this thread, I would HAVE been SO much more careful with my response.

But as chance had it, I was falling asleep and my response TO Morgen (AGAIN, in response to ANOTHER THREAD/ANOTHER TOPIC) would be utilized to show my "supposed" lack of understanding.

Please save the "it has nothing to do with Daddy molested me, etc."
It is SO not necessary. My father didn't molest my brother either.

Save those comments for a homophobic. This really is SILLY.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Okay, babs... I'll bite. If you don't adhere to any religion, how do you come up with your strong beliefs? Just make them up?
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Still waiting for an answer.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Originally Posted by Babs34
Look Kat, I appreciate your honesty here with your excursions............but truth is truth. You just ARE one or the other. When it comes to preferences, you are "either or." Bisexuality falls into play of just "playing." There IS such a thing as peference.
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See, this is why I used the word cunt. Because it would stand out compared to the word bitch, which I'm sure has been used many, many times. Both are just words, but if I had called her a bitch it probably would have rolled off her too easily.


On what basis does Babs make her claim? Certainly not based on any ethology. Homosexual and bisexual behavior exists widely in the animal kingdom. For some species it's an element of social hierarchy, while in others it's pair bonding.

But then that commentary is just as blindly ignorant as the previous call to bring prayer and religion back into school.
"Freedom of religion, as long as it's Christianity!" is the call sign of the theocrats. See how quickly they change their tunes if the morning prayer is Jewish, Islamic, Vodoun, etc.

Everyone has a worldview. For some it just stops at the tip of the nose.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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To be religious is to be egotistical, self centered.

To be Christian or Muslim is to be a cultist. Then the ego really takes off. Critical "mass" of delusion is achieved, and the world suffers for it.
 
Babs34

Babs34

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CrackerJax said:
Okay, babs... I'll bite. If you don't adhere to any religion, how do you come up with your strong beliefs? Just make them up?
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Still waiting for an answer.
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CJ, you are waiting for me to bite. You are preparing for a feast...I'm done with the games.:bigjoint:
 
Katatawnic

Katatawnic

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morgentaler said:
See, this is why I used the word cunt. Because it would stand out compared to the word bitch, which I'm sure has been used many, many times. Both are just words, but if I had called her a bitch it probably would have rolled off her too easily.


On what basis does Babs make her claim? Certainly not based on any ethology. Homosexual and bisexual behavior exists widely in the animal kingdom. For some species it's an element of social hierarchy, while in others it's pair bonding.
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And with others it's just playing... ya bitch. :mrgreen:

But then that commentary is just as blindly ignorant as the previous call to bring prayer and religion back into school.
"Freedom of religion, as long as it's Christianity!" is the call sign of the theocrats. See how quickly they change their tunes if the morning prayer is Jewish, Islamic, Vodoun, etc.

Everyone has a worldview. For some it just stops at the tip of the nose.
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I demand that sacred altars be erected, and magickal circles be cast in each classroom first thing every morning! :fire:
 
Babs34

Babs34

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morgentaler said:
See, this is why I used the word cunt. Because it would stand out compared to the word bitch, which I'm sure has been used many, many times. Both are just words, but if I had called her a bitch it probably would have rolled off her too easily.


On what basis does Babs make her claim? Certainly not based on any ethology. Homosexual and bisexual behavior exists widely in the animal kingdom. For some species it's an element of social hierarchy, while in others it's pair bonding.

But then that commentary is just as blindly ignorant as the previous call to bring prayer and religion back into school.
"Freedom of religion, as long as it's Christianity!" is the call sign of the theocrats. See how quickly they change their tunes if the morning prayer is Jewish, Islamic, Vodoun, etc.

Everyone has a worldview. For some it just stops at the tip of the nose.
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AHAHAHAHA@you hiding in the shadows! You started all this bullshit, LOOOL.

See, this is why I used the word cunt. Because it would stand out compared to the word bitch, which I'm sure has been used many, many times. Both are just words, but if I had called her a bitch it probably would have rolled off her too easily.
Off with the assumptions again--
Granted, use of the word bitch is common, but not within my social structure. Uh oh, bad choice of words. :!: Let me put it this way. There is only one man who has really called me a bitch (any other possibility doesn't stand out....feasibly it may have occurred at some other point in my life)
This particular man has SERIOUS issues with women...AND HE IS STRAIGHT, no question about that.
There is not a single woman he has not referred to as either a bitch, a whore or as a slut, which most often are so entirely used out of context.
I don't make it habit to surround myself with people who so freely and randomly misuse the word....a female dog I am not. :bigjoint:Now, can I fork out some shit? HELL YES......and a LOL. Some of you get so intense.

You're right. It would have rolled off my back had you called me any of those.
A whore?.....never been paid for sex.
A slut?...Pffffffft, I'm a newfound virgin, years over now. :lol:....by choice.

But now a cunt? Let's grasp also that I am definitely not a pussy, a vagina.....just as when a woman says "you are a dick"...a man is not technically not his penis. ::cough:...but that's another topic altogether.

The reason I find it so offensive and "because I've only heard it from a gay man's mouth" is because it sent chills down my spine!!!!
Ask me why.....(or just go out on a whim and create false scenarios)
The FIRST time I heard that word was from my brother calling my mother a cunt! When those words came from his mouth---it was worse than sitting in a theater watching the scarriest horror movie. It was indescribably intense! His voice SHRILLLLLLLLLED like NO OTHER.
NEVER in my life had I witnessed such HATRED. I've witnessed couples fight......I don't find it so abnormal for a couple to refer to one another as being a bitch, asshole on a rare occassion.
But I would find it questionable if this were just normal speech between the two.

Since that time, I have only witnessed it from a couple of other gay men...same affect. That's a scary display..........a site not to behold.

So, yes......you caught my attention Morgen. ;-)

"Freedom of religion, as long as it's Christianity!"
Redundancy abounds here.....nope.
Freedom of religion--so long as it hurts no one.
Morgen, provided my initial instinct is correct that you are a homosexual--you never answered me, but instead called me a cunt---
Do realize that if you lived in any of these muslim countries, you and all professed homosexual/bisexual or really otherwise "sexual" acknowldegements would have you put to death!!!
Get with the century...Christians are not going to have you put to death. At worst, they are going to attempt to change you and in the process annoy you to death.

I'm not pushing for prayer in schools or to teach other parents children my personal view on who God may be. But at the same token, every parent has the right to instill their values upon their children....they are extensions of themself.
You have a habit of taking EXTREME examples of how religion, in general, is child abuse. You, as habit, have made it hobby to bash Christianity as null and void in any possible aspect of what is held as purely innocent and even possibly capable of adding substance to ones own existence. Is that what you are griping about now? Offered substance? This works more than just one way.

You wish to define sexuality leaning unto ONLY your own understanding..works both ways. I don't need to actually be a homosexual or a bi-sexual to "get it."
I see past so many things you would never accredit me for, but would instead conveniently ignore.

Now, I ask you this because I don't wish to rehash the topic of you calling me a cunt --
You don't think it is possible, that it doesn't happen? Can you not feasibly even acknoledge that people do perform homosexual acts, without the inate desire?
 
Babs34

Babs34

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CrackerJax said:
To be religious is to be egotistical, self centered.

To be Christian or Muslim is to be a cultist. Then the ego really takes off. Critical "mass" of delusion is achieved, and the world suffers for it.
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This world will suffer for having varied opinions...period.
This simple thread does not serve as evidence of that?
One need not be religous, or even believe in God to be egotistical and self-centered.
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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Babs34 said:
CJ, you are waiting for me to bite. You are preparing for a feast...I'm done with the games.:bigjoint:
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Classic Babsian dodge. Kind of like: "Wowza....too entirely much to digest for my being on this clock.....it's earlier for you."

Or my favorite: "Ack, I can't get in depth with this today...life is short and debating and arguing for what purpose life exists is a waste of precious time."

Which really kind of leaves you without any reason for being in this thread. We are necessarily debating and arguing for what purpose life exists. If that is a waste of precious time, then what activity is more valuable?????? Why even log on to RIU????
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Heh, she insists on posting but can't actually defend what she posts.

What were those definitions again...?

I asked a simple question Babs to a comment YOU made.

Can't answer it because.... ur lost. You confound yourself.
 
Babs34

Babs34

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shnkrmn said:
Classic Babsian dodge. Kind of like: "Wowza....too entirely much to digest for my being on this clock.....it's earlier for you."

Or my favorite: "Ack, I can't get in depth with this today...life is short and debating and arguing for what purpose life exists is a waste of precious time."

Which really kind of leaves you without any reason for being in this thread. We are necessarily debating and arguing for what purpose life exists. If that is a waste of precious time, then what activity is more valuable?????? Why even log on to RIU????
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You guys are too much. :-|
Discussing is not the same as childish name calling back and forth and assuming a stance taken for the purpose of discord......as Morgen posed it, SCHISM.
 
Babs34

Babs34

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CrackerJax said:
Heh, she insists on posting but can't actually defend what she posts.

What were those definitions again...?

I asked a simple question Babs to a comment YOU made.

Can't answer it because.... ur lost. You confound yourself.
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I don't answer because you are not interested in my answer.

Speaking of confounding oneself, I have a life. Thanks for reminding me!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....LATA
 
Babs34

Babs34

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babs34 said:
i don't answer because you are not interested in my answer.

Speaking of confounding oneself, i have a life. Thanks for reminding me!
Hahahahahahaha.....lata
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CJ, plus rep for that~~~that's my first proclaimed rep in riu land!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Well this is interesting. I can find no trace of the posts where Babs and (I think) Roseman were both saying that America has been ruined by taking prayer out of school.

But I repeat the statement. If the kids went to school tomorrow and were asked to pray to Allah or Odin, how loud would the shrieks be from the Christian parents.
 
morgentaler

morgentaler

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Apparently because I believe gay rights I'm probably a gay man.
Since I believe in the rights of transgender people I must be transgender.
And since I believe that the sun is a ball of hydrogen gas engaged in a prolonged nuclear reaction, I must be a ball of hydrogen gas engaged in a prolonged nuclear reaction. Now how can I use that to power my car.
 
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