CrackerJax
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It wasn't homo erotic, not really. Until you mentioned it.... 
CrackerJax
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Who is Brazko.... a religious fellow poster who tries to use science as a tool to prove religion, but does it quite badly. That sentence was not in response to any of my posts, but I though it brilliantly circular in reasoning.
Meltdowns are like accidents ... you can't look away.
Meltdowns are like accidents ... you can't look away.
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PadawanBater
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lol, nice groww
I get the same sort of feeling when I'm driving and I see one of those Jesus fish's with the legs underneath that says "Evolve" instead.
But in regards to the question, I'd say within 40 years atheists will be the majority in the United States.
I get the same sort of feeling when I'm driving and I see one of those Jesus fish's with the legs underneath that says "Evolve" instead.
But in regards to the question, I'd say within 40 years atheists will be the majority in the United States.
Woodstock.Hippie
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Then that means Spiritual Machines will exist in 2013.
I always wanted that tattoo.
Shut Up And Vote
I always wanted that tattoo.
Shut Up And Vote
CrackerJax
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Think so? 40 years? That's a bit steep of an incline. I'd say it might take a tad longer. Tad being untethered to any number
lol
. But that is something I have "faith" in. Man will overcome the superstition one day. Man will grow up eventually, kicking and screaming the whole way I imagine. But that's what we do....so it is what shall be.
Katatawnic
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Scott rocks! You may notice him reading his "script" on this video, but if you watch him live in a web chat (met him on stickam.com a couple years ago), you'll see he's just as well spoken in the middle of a debate. Always keeps his cool, too. Would you imagine a soap star being that intelligent? I never would've thunk it till I met him.
The guy doing this "commentary" is a "hit and miss" with me... half the time he's great, the other half he's simply an asshole. I found this one to be spot on.
[youtube]mD4w2N5_jOU[/youtube]
Yeah, it did sound a bit romantic for a moment there.
morgentaler
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You nodded at each other. A typical social response from two members of the hive acknowledging each other.
If you started licking your lips and rubbing your balls while looking hungrily into each others eyes, THAT would be homo-erotic.
And probably very confusing to the other tube riders.
morgentaler
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2 generations can be a significant gap in changing beliefs. In one generation US racial segregation of blacks/whites was almost entirely eliminated. (Though there were still slaves kept as late as 1972! Geez!)Think so? 40 years? That's a bit steep of an incline. I'd say it might take a tad longer. Tad being untethered to any number
Iran is going to be going through an interesting social upheaval over the next 20 years. There was a good article on Wired or Salon around 2 years ago, talking about the culture shift there.
Basically the clerics wanted to make Iran a bigger force in the area, so they encouraged education in the new generation, rather than stifling it. But now they have a ton of 20 somethings born in the 80s with strong critical reasoning skills, university educations, and the technical know-how to access the world through the internet, so the culture swing from fundamentalism to moderation and outright unbelief is substantial for that area.
The Iran we see in the day to day media is the politics of a generation soon to pass.
And good for that
CrackerJax
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Those changes really came about because of the US Govt. Even so, with segregation, there was a terrific fight over it, and that was WITH the law siding correctly with the blacks.
Think anyone from the Govt. is going to create new law that stymies out religion? Not without a domestic terror war response from Christians. They will not go quietly into the night. They aren't stable enough for that.
So, that leaves it coming about on it's own till there is a tipping point. This still does not mean anything will be done about religion. It just means poll numbers will change. Policy change? Tax change? I don't think so.
We will get there, but I think 40 years is a bit optimistic. In Paddy's article link it stated that most of the gains came in the 90's in the USA, all the way to 14%. A decade later it is now 15%. Sounds like much of the heavy lifting of superstition is still ahead, not behind, and if those rates hold true, it will be quite awhile.
I hope not.... I'd like to live in a society that doesn't define their lives by a myth.
Think anyone from the Govt. is going to create new law that stymies out religion? Not without a domestic terror war response from Christians. They will not go quietly into the night. They aren't stable enough for that.
So, that leaves it coming about on it's own till there is a tipping point. This still does not mean anything will be done about religion. It just means poll numbers will change. Policy change? Tax change? I don't think so.
We will get there, but I think 40 years is a bit optimistic. In Paddy's article link it stated that most of the gains came in the 90's in the USA, all the way to 14%. A decade later it is now 15%. Sounds like much of the heavy lifting of superstition is still ahead, not behind, and if those rates hold true, it will be quite awhile.
I hope not.... I'd like to live in a society that doesn't define their lives by a myth.
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PadawanBater
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I dunno man, I just look around and see a big shift in a lot of interested people. Those that are seeking out answers come to the internet, with it's insane amount of information available. The internet is a powerful tool.
Dawkins, Harris, even youtube is a great source of information.
I think anyone with any common sense at all chooses the right path. I rarely come across intellectually challenging believers, not to say that there aren't smart people who believe in God, just that the correlation can't be ignored.
Maybe 40 years is a bit of a stretch, but I think the number is just going to keep increasing, especially with a perpetual state of war going on, more people are asking why these conflicts take place, coming to the conclusion that a lot of it stems from religion, and deciding that an ancient belief that can't even be verified isn't worth killing other people over and sending our own people to be killed.
Hey Kat, I'm interested in how you met Scott, I could tell immediately that guy was smart as hell, he provides some of the more quality content on youtube, he seems like an awesome dude.
Miss MeanWeed
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LOL I've seen that in real life and I was scared
OregonMeds
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Padawan nice sig.
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PadawanBater
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lol Thanks man! Just slapped that up there yesterday after a little back and fourth with jeff.Padawan nice sig.
I especially love how it's so above all other opinions, even with the misspelling of "one" instead of "won"... lmfao
shnkrmn
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You should include the link to the original post too. I was tired of your old sig; I'd read that thread when it first ran. It was funny, but. Plus it didn't really say much about you.
morgentaler
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Iraq. Because it's totally not the same as Vietnam when you add sand.You should include the link to the original post too. I was tired of your old sig; I'd read that thread when it first ran. It was funny, but. Plus it didn't really say much about you.
Woodstock.Hippie
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Katatawnic
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He's a real good guy.
We used to frequent Stickam, which is a web chat site. Always ended up in the same rooms; "debate" kinda stuff. Took a few months before I realized who he is, because you just don't think about it when you talk with him. I haven't been to Stickam for a while because I haven't found software that'll run my cam on Linux yet, but a friend of mine was visiting just yesterday and said that Scott hasn't been there much lately... I'm sure work keeps him pretty busy.
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PadawanBater
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You said he's a soap star? lol that's kinda funny
He's a real good guy.
I've always wondered about his background, got any insight into that?
He's just extremely smart and articulate, really good at explaining things clearly.
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PadawanBater
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My atheist friends, do I have a treat for you!
Look what I stumbled upon;
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794
http://www.mahalo.com/trijicon-weapons-bible-codes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trijicon
[youtube]kz9W7z5CZVQ[/youtube]
So pretty much, this completely justifies the fanatical Muslims view of America waging a war against Islam, and further serves as a recruitement tool for AQ and the Taliban, fantastic job guys! Keep creatin' those terrorists!
Look what I stumbled upon;
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794
http://www.mahalo.com/trijicon-weapons-bible-codes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trijicon
[youtube]kz9W7z5CZVQ[/youtube]
So pretty much, this completely justifies the fanatical Muslims view of America waging a war against Islam, and further serves as a recruitement tool for AQ and the Taliban, fantastic job guys! Keep creatin' those terrorists!