Atheism

CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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The authors of the Bible are anonymous. That truly helps the argument that it is true.

Ecc. is an old testament inclusion. Christians love to steal material. It is a testament of the JEWS, not Christians.
 
jfgordon1

jfgordon1

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CrackerJax said:
The authors of the Bible are anonymous. That truly helps the argument that it is true.

Ecc. is an old testament inclusion. Christians love to steal material. It is a testament of the JEWS, not Christians.
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Yet, the Jews are wrong.. and have no idea what they're talking about ;)

They KILLED our lord for "god's" sake :shock:
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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myxedup said:
Wasn't Ecclesiastes written by Solomon? Just never heard that one before so it kind of seemed odd to hear.
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Well, the narrator claims to be 'son of David, King in Jerusalem'. The Hebrew title is Kohelet which is also the name of the narrator. But 'son of David can be read as 'descendant of David' There is stylistic and grammatical evidence in the original Hebrew which indicates a later writing than Solomon's time, although it could have been reworked in a later period as well. Some critics claim a non-Jewish origin for the thought contained in Ecc. Numerous passages resonate well with Buddhists, although that's a loooooong shot in terms of origin.

As usual, the Wiki for this kind of thing is excellent.
 
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myxedup

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CrackerJax said:
The authors of the Bible are anonymous. That truly helps the argument that it is true.

Ecc. is an old testament inclusion. Christians love to steal material. It is a testament of the JEWS, not Christians.
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Not trying to rip on you, but anything before Christ would obviously not be a testament for Christians as it would be hard to be a follower of someone yet to be born. The statement that Christians love to steal material certainly isn't innacurate, but to use it in regards to this case is just a case of someone going out of their way to rip on Christianity.

And, as you already know, there's certainly no need to go out of one's way to do that, there's plenty there already hurting their cause.

:)
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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I agree with your first sentence. Christianity does not however. They INSIST on copping the Old Testament.

I merely point that out.
 
jfgordon1

jfgordon1

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myxedup said:
Not trying to rip on you, but anything before Christ would obviously not be a testament for Christians as it would be hard to be a follower of someone yet to be born. The statement that Christians love to steal material certainly isn't innacurate, but to use it in regards to this case is just a case of someone going out of their way to rip on Christianity.

And, as you already know, there's certainly no need to go out of one's way to do that, there's plenty there already hurting their cause.

:)
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They change a few names... and woo-la
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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Hoo boy.... because it has nothing to do with the new? And the new is the testament of jesus. And Jesus is the entire point of Christianity.

The old testament is for the Jews only.

Actually Jesus was strictly talking to Jews himself. Not gentiles. The entire premise only holds together if Christians admit they are a sect of Judaism.
 
Babs34

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CrackerJax said:
Hoo boy.... because it has nothing to do with the new? And the new is the testament of jesus. And Jesus is the entire point of Christianity.

The old testament is for the Jews only.

Actually Jesus was strictly talking to Jews himself. Not gentiles. The entire premise only holds together if Christians admit they are a sect of Judaism.
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--perfection with deliberation--rocket science, eh?
Jesus is the entire point of God's message to mankind..do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

As mankind would have it, we would prefer to have our own way, which always proves to be fruitless. God gave us freewill, not because He had no choice, but because He has no need for mindless zombies. The rich man driving the Ferrari however would freely not note this fact, whereas the humble and meek man would always exhibit praise and appreciation for this knowledge.

Since when do Christians not recognize themselves to be a "sect" of Judaism? It IS the ROOT of ALL their beliefs. Without question, they at minimum, recognize the fact.

Generally speaking, Christians do not adhere to either the OT or the New as the literal spoken truth of God via His words Himself. This is where spirituality kicks in.....an elaboration not foretold in this generation, yet coming to fruition.

The most simplistic orders via "God" should be evident when raised in any honorable upbringing.

The "Jews" were incapable of sharing with mankind by way of message God's true intentions for mankind. They instead instilled their own violent renditions of God's essence. God was displeased and used this as an example to mankind.

Numerous places in the Torah and OT specifically point out God's intolerance and disappointment of the fact.

In fact, many books within the OT foretell the coming of the savior, Jesus Christ..........as found (scientifically proven) by a a little Muslim boy------NO ACCIDENT---in the book of Isaiah noted as being WORD FOR WORD.(SCIENTIFIC)

Science ignorantly ignores this FACT.

It's all about convenience of the soul mind you.

Never forget, it is Christians who PROTECT the Jews. This was God's plan....as imperfect as you find it.

***Please finally note that I do NOT take the Bible as the word of God verbatim. By the literal hands of God, the Bible was not created, but by man's selfish desire... this, we agree on.
 
Babs34

Babs34

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Allow me to add that even to this day, a very small example.......
Why do "we the people" not fight for our RIGHT to medicate with a herb vs. man's chemical?
/////that also was a simplistic adlib, noteworthy nonetheless.
\....as I said, it's all about what soothes the soul, or therof lack of.
 
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