Attention: Azdhs recommendations of changes to the amma!!!

irieie

Well-Known Member
ok folks i am not sure how many of you have read the report or are aware it. but here is the important parts. will humble wants to change the AMMA in four way here they are.

Recommendation 1: Develop intensive training for physicians who are high volume certifiers in
conjunction with respective licensing medical boards for better patient provider coordination and
adherence to AMMA statutory requirements. Leverage existing contracts with the Arizona
Board of Pharmacy to more quickly identify physicians who may be making false attestations on
physician certifications.
they are going after doctors to keep patient numbers down.


Recommendation 2: Given the overwhelming recommendations for patients with “severe and
chronic pain”, explore the feasibility of further examining the nature of debilitating conditions.
For instance, the current incident rate for cancer in Arizona (5-year average) was 390 per
100,000 (CI: 387.8–392.1) with an average annual count of 25,432 cases. However, in the
medical marijuana database there were only 467 patients with Cancer as a unique debilitating
condition.
sounds to me like they want to remove chronic pain from the list of conditions or make it harder to prove chronic pain. again another point where they show they want to reduce the patient number and keep the program from growing.


Recommendation 3: Explore the feasibility of temporary suspensions of cards. For revocations,
the current AMMA statute provides only two possibilities with a cardholder status as either
active and/or revoked. For instance, during the reporting period there was one revocation for a
QP and two revocations for designated CGs. In either case, there are a series of administrative
actions that need to occur before a card is revoked, including the possibility of appeals through
Administrative Hearing and Superior Court. During this time lag, a card remains in “active”
status (i.e. the cardholders are protected by the AMMA) until a final decision is made; thus,
providing immunity to potential misuse of AMMA provisions.

again this shows they want to start going after patients and conducting more investigations, there are over 5 million in the fund and they have already hired an outside law firm, they are trying to find a way to go after patients they think dont deserve cannabis, If your condition is chronic pain then you have a lot to worry about!!!!



Recommendation 4: Explore the feasibility of conducting epidemiological analysis of medical
marijuana users through amendment of AMMA statute to understand public health and safety
concerns. For instance, epidemiological analyses can shed light on: a) whether use of medical
marijuana has an effect on opiate dependency; b) whether use of medical marijuana has an
impact on motor vehicle traffic injuries; and (c) whether use of medical marijuana has an impact
on pregnancy outcomes or breastfeeding.

this last one is a huge deal, they are proposing to amend the law which protects the cardholder information from being shared with anyone!!!! they give a completely different reason above but the legal effect will be the same!!.




these are very serious changes to the amma and show a tone of suppression restriction and increased regulation from this republican administration. if these recommendations go into effect then it is the systematic dismantling and reduction of the medical marijuana program. they dont plan on opening dispensaries they plan on reducing patient numbers, harass doctors, and conducting and inquisition into the industry. THESE RECOMMENDATIONS GO TOO FAR!! IF YOU AGREE WITH ME THEN LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD AND CONTACT THE DIRECTOR!!!


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Chronicseeker

New Member
Would these implementations not require a vote to become law/ an AMMA requirement?
If it is not written in the current AMMA then the "prescription mill doctors" are not require to participate in any training programs.
Key words, "Amend AMMA" that requires a vote imo.
Similar scenario to adjusting the 25 mile rule?

But, this is Arizona, so who really knows the officials motives.
 

AvonBarksdale

Active Member
Would these implementations not require a vote to become law/ an AMMA requirement?
If it is not written in the current AMMA then the "prescription mill doctors" are not require to participate in any training programs.
Key words, "Amend AMMA" that requires a vote imo.
Similar scenario to adjusting the 25 mile rule?
That's what I thought too...

Either way, fuck this shit. I'm off to the east coast. Boston is looking right as fuck, and it's only a 2 hours train ride to NYC. Fuck these close minded, self righteous cocksuckers (Im talking to you, Will Humble... one of the biggest cocksuckers out of them all).
 

Hÿdra

Active Member
As a chronic Pain patient that HATE opiate pain killers this terrifies me:( Luckily i have a medical file a mile thick, i dont think they will be able to do much to me with all my medical paper. ( ihope)
 

gkaz

Member
Hÿdra;8235796 said:
As a chronic Pain patient that HATE opiate pain killers this terrifies me:( Luckily i have a medical file a mile thick, i dont think they will be able to do much to me with all my medical paper. ( ihope)
I am in the same boat as you on this one. With all of the work I have had done on my back I would hate to have to be tied to opiate pain killers for a lifetime.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
i am from boston born and bred half irish. its a super progressive place much different than here in many ways. there law was actually crafted similar to ours with a dispensary system with a capped number and patient cant grow at home unless they get a hardship voucher. i explained it all in another thread here. my whole family lives out there and my mother has been smoking pot all my life, she is also a college professor with her doctorate in criminal justice. i really think they will be the model which arizona was supposed to be. there the state cares about its citizens especially the ones who cant care for themselves. also marijuana is decriminalized and i have smoked many joints on the street of boston with no fear whatsoever and no social stigma. ill be going back soon for thanksgiving so thats gonna be fun to talk about, that and how much my parents hate obama.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
Would these implementations not require a vote to become law/ an AMMA requirement?
If it is not written in the current AMMA then the "prescription mill doctors" are not require to participate in any training programs.
Key words, "Amend AMMA" that requires a vote imo.
Similar scenario to adjusting the 25 mile rule?

But, this is Arizona, so who really knows the officials motives.
ballot intiative or a 2/3 vote in the state legislature, which i would not see them having a hard time gaining. as opposed to liberalization of the amma which is what changing the 25 mile rule would be.
 

Chronicseeker

New Member
Mass is now putting teeth into the law supposedly, so less vague rules about weight and plant count I imagine. The hardship voucher seems like it would be fairly easy to obtain i.e. lack of transportation resources qualifies.. Only deal breaker for many is no chronic pain is involved in question 3. That little line will decrease the amount of patients and possibly harm the potential revenue stream. But MA is not a bunch of idiots like Arizona, they believe in citizens rights and democracy. I went to school there and enjoy the east coast mentality. It will be interesting to see how everything plays out.
Irie, you could be introducing some serious niche to the patients and disp operators of mass if you hit that market in the early stages.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
Y'all are not giving MA any credit for it's vibrant and robust growers community, that's where chemdawg operated for years, but believe me I have been reading the law for a reason. And you are correct about their law still being written. The state has 120 days to hash out the rules (pun intended). Also there is a provision in the condition which states something like "and whatever your physician may see fit" leaving the door open for anything. One thing I am for sure gonna do is go back and help all my friends and family setup personal grows. I might help my parents turn my old bedroom into their grow room lol.
 

HB DC

Active Member
This is a very important time my friends...

To have this benefit patients/caregivers input from the said crowd must be heard. I can bet you a nickel dispensary licence holders and prospecting folks will be putting their input in to benefit them.. The same needs to happen will patients/caregivers..

We need to follow this attentively or like the "25 Mile Rule" there will be no favor on the patient/caregiver side just rules and regulations...


If AzDHS trains or works hands on with a dispensary we are all FUCKED... Period. The program will need to get shut down at that point...
 
A patient can grow/posses 60 days worth of medicine as the current law says, no weight/plant count is specified, yet.

This makes me feel like there is hope somewhere:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/09/washington-county-drops-marijuana-misdeanor-possession-cases-in-light-of-vote/?hpt=hp_t2

Thats Wash state explaining democracy to the federal government.
a friend and I were debating on how much a caregiver is allowed to posses and we couldn't agree on the answer. Can you tell me what it is?
 

J9BLACK

Active Member
I don't want the government to care for me, just leave me and most of my money ALONE.

We've become a state of alcoholic cowboys trying to keep out stoned Mexicans.

How long has THIS been going on?
 
So if I harvest 72 plants....Wtf am I supposed to do with the rest, give it away? What about two weeks later when your patients are able to receive more?
 
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