ATTENTION: Irish "Tomato" Growers!

jact55

Well-Known Member
so let me get this right..... you have two sativas in this special dirt and you have an indica in normal dirt and you are going to compare the 2 at harvest and if the sativas do better you are going to credit it to the dirt. this experiment is bogus, the only way that this could be done is if you use two clones from the same plant. '

also could you take the tinfoil off of the dirt so we can see it.
 

liblah

Well-Known Member
so let me get this right..... you have two sativas in this special dirt and you have an indica in normal dirt and you are going to compare the 2 at harvest and if the sativas do better you are going to credit it to the dirt. this experiment is bogus, the only way that this could be done is if you use two clones from the same plant. '

also could you take the tinfoil off of the dirt so we can see it.
dont worry iv got another sativa possibly even 2 females of the same kind one at least will be transported into the GHouse-fixed.
comments on the soil-weird obsorbtion properties , powdery other than clumpy- il take pics another time n post them here.
im open to ideas for a clone experiment i have the facilites and the oher 2 for comparrison
.im only doing this for fasination,fun and experimental pourposes.

do the nice plants not please you enough? starting to notice an underlying snobbish trend on rollitup.
post up a few nice plants and not even a "good job" or anythin.these are forums people-INTERACT!!
this may be all useless crap to some of you but at least were f**kin tryin for the love of weed
 

jact55

Well-Known Member
i thought you guys are throwin a sells pitch, not trying to show off your work. but if that is what you are doing, then congrats your plants do look good.
 

PayDirt

Member
Good work "liblah"!

Hopefully that unusual colour is due to a higher chlorophyll content.

I'm hoping you get some good quality product for all your trouble. Let's keep our fingers crossed for lots of cannabinoids with lots of cross-linking.

Awaiting that toke-test.


i thought you guys are throwin a sells pitch, not trying to show off your work. but if that is what you are doing, then congrats your plants do look good.
...one of my growers has poor results; one has some unusually coloured plants: and the soil itself is so expensive no one would ever buy it so I've had to hand it out for free to get some data.

Probably the worst sales pitch ever.


But I might have some interesting news regarding actual sales early next week.


Three bags left if anyone is interested:
paydirt at hush mail dot com
...competent growers only.

-PayDirt
 

Bmarley

Member
im pretty sure you should of used clones from a single mother plant for this test

by using the sativa and indica your ruining the control
there is no control group
there is no experiment
you will probably still get high
but you wont know for sure if it was soil genetics or what that made the buds better bigger or anything
 

PayDirt

Member
im pretty sure you should of used clones from a single mother plant for this test

by using the sativa and indica your ruining the control
there is no control group
there is no experiment
you will probably still get high
but you wont know for sure if it was soil genetics or what that made the buds better bigger or anything
Seconded... with disappointment.


-PayDirt
 

PayDirt

Member
have u got all your volunteer's yet?
As I explained to the last person who emailed me:

I only had enough substrate and ingredients to make 10 or 11 grow bags. But during the processing I (accidently) burnt out part of the drive shaft in my milling machine, with only 9 bags finished.

So I divided up the bags as best I could:
2 bags to a grower from RollItUp.org
2 bags to a grower from Cannabis.com
3 bags to an acquaintance of an acquaintance

...and two bags just sat in my garage, unwanted.

After a couple of months of no further interest I gifted these last two bags to a botanist friend for whom I have done some soil work in the past. Sort of a thank you present (he pays very well).

If he hasn't used them, and I can get them back... I'll give them to the last guy who inquired about joining the experiment.



To be honest, I think this entire endeavour has been a waste of time.

The grower from Cannabis.com forgot to add worms or moss peat to aerate the soil and somewhat stifled the roots of his plants... haven't heard from him since, so I don't know how the plants are doing.

The grower from this forum (he's posted in this thread, but I won't name anyone without their permission) made the mistake of growing two separate strains, which effectively defeats the purpose of the control group entirely... also, he was unable to water the plants for a few weeks as he was out of the country. Again, I haven't heard from him in a couple of months (he should be harvesting now) so I don't know whats going on with him either.


That's not a criticism of anyone involved, I'm still very grateful for the work put in by the volunteers, who, after all, are only amateur growers doing their best.


I just wish I had better results for my 1,200 euros of ingrediets and broken milling machine.


The acquaintance of an acquaintance (shady character whom I have never met) won't tell me how he got on at all... no pictures; no yield results; nothing. Bastard.

The only thing I know is that he wants a price quote on some sort of bulk discount on more bags... I've passed on word that the cost price is 115euro a bag, so I can't really sell bags for less than say 135euro (20 quid a bag for my work seems fair to me considering the to week processing time)... but at that price he's apparently considering a second grow with the sample bags to see how long the soil lasts.

I did offer him a deal: a set amount of bags; maybe 50 or 100 bags; at COST (115euro) in exchange for him buying me a new (or reconditioned milling machine). But he hasn't responded yet (which he will only do through a friend of a friend).



My current plan, is to get some better results (maybe even some customers) via some industrial (legal) growers in mainland Europe.

But this will be a much more expensive process:
-new milling machine
-Fed-Ex free samples to industrial growers who can do proper comparative grows against a control group

...thats gonna cost me several thousand straight off.

So if I go that route I'll probably opt for a heavy-duty industrial milling machine (which should bring down the manufacturing cost somewhat and better stabilise the product) , put up a discreet website and see if my magic dirt is a viable business in it's own right.

I certainly won't get any venure capital or investment for such a business (imagine that pitch on Dragon's Den!), so it'll probably have to be 6 or maybe 7 grand of my own money... risky.

Will keep you guys posted either way.

Let's hope for some results.


-PayDirt
PS... will gladly answer any further questions as time allows.
 

macdadyabc

Well-Known Member
hey, i want to grow weed and then have you come steal it for me! i want in on this experiment, sign me up!
dude why would you give a fuck about soil if you hate plants, dont grow anything, and are spending "thousands of dollars" just to give dirt away? i smell something fishy
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
didnt you request testers months back im sure i spoke to ya paydirt and i was in england so i was out of the running. what happened to your previous testers?
 

PayDirt

Member
didnt you request testers months back im sure i spoke to ya paydirt and i was in england so i was out of the running. what happened to your previous testers?
Like I said in the above post; three volunteers... no results.

Although I suspect the friend of a friend I mentioned had good results as he wants more of the soil.


-PayDirt
 

Justin00

Active Member
this is very very interesting and i love the idea of but sadly i am neither a seasoned grower or in Ireland so i can't really participate however if i were i would love to provide a good controlled test to get some factual results from even if the produces were on an overall lower lvl than some of these guys can grow.

be sure to let us know if this stuff ever goes on the market. sure its not viable for commercial grows but i sure would like to see my trophy plant growing in that stuff for my personal use. hell whats a hundred bucks when put up beside all the aero set ups and HPS lights you use in a pro grow for some high quality award winning strain.

if you have any way of getting it to the US or interest in it let me know.
 
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