Aussie Growers Thread

2easy

2easy

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iknownothink said:
I was going to say just put it in your footer haha :P

Cause I'm new to both this forum and cannabis as a whole, I don't know if this has been asked 1,000 times. But what is everyone's favorite strain ? I'm looking at getting a few more seeds just cause I've got a lot of empty pots and soil sitting around but wouldn't have a clue what to get. If anyone has any of their own they want to sell/ gift of their all time favorite I can grow them for you and do a trade shoot me a message.. I just sold 6 of my Carolina Reaper plants for $160 :) almost more money in chillis haha.
I've got 30 random seeds from a friend as well, but he doesn't know what they are and probably pretty average at best, im not super keen on spending a small fortune on my power bill to grow rubbish so might just throw these in the neighbours garden for a laugh

So far I've bought in order of best to worst.
Dinachem - This was by far the most potent of anything Ive had and what I currently have 2 seedlings off.

Bubba Kush - this is obviously one of the well known ones that everyone talks about and they were ok

2 lots of those FREE pack seeds with Jack Herrer, Amnesia, etc none of those were really amazing but the Laughing Buda to me was probably the best out of that bunch, but to be honest I sort of lost track which was which over the months haha.
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im a diesel man myself. i cant think of my over all favourite but i did grow daybreaker for a very long time. that one probably hung around in my garden for a reason. it was the best smelling and smoking bud i have ever had even if it wasnt the most potent.

also its important to remember when your trying something like bubba kush your most likely not really getting bubba kush but just a strain that some other company has stuck the name bubbakush on to sell seeds. thats not to say it will be bad just dont think because thats the name thats what your getting. its best to research all strains and breeders before dropping coin on something
 
Noinch

Noinch

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Poontanger said:
yes OzCoco, I partly agree, that's why, by freezing pollen & putting it back to the 1st cross, stabilises , your line, that is breeding, also your first cross will shoot of all over the place, sum good, sum not so, either way its all good fun
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Unless you're growing hundreds and hundreds (should be thousands really) of plants creating multiple lines you're still just randomly chucking and hoping for the best though. Very few people doing actual breeding these days

I do at least one chuck every year just so if by some miracle at some point in our lives we can grow however much weed we want I have a fuck tonne of different f1's to sift through to start some actual breeding
 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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iknownothink said:
I was going to say just put it in your footer haha :P

Cause I'm new to both this forum and cannabis as a whole, I don't know if this has been asked 1,000 times. But what is everyone's favorite strain ? I'm looking at getting a few more seeds just cause I've got a lot of empty pots and soil sitting around but wouldn't have a clue what to get. If anyone has any of their own they want to sell/ gift of their all time favorite I can grow them for you and do a trade shoot me a message.. I just sold 6 of my Carolina Reaper plants for $160 :) almost more money in chillis haha.
I've got 30 random seeds from a friend as well, but he doesn't know what they are and probably pretty average at best, im not super keen on spending a small fortune on my power bill to grow rubbish so might just throw these in the neighbours garden for a laugh

So far I've bought in order of best to worst.
Dinachem - This was by far the most potent of anything Ive had and what I currently have 2 seedlings off.

Bubba Kush - this is obviously one of the well known ones that everyone talks about and they were ok

2 lots of those FREE pack seeds with Jack Herrer, Amnesia, etc none of those were really amazing but the Laughing Buda to me was probably the best out of that bunch, but to be honest I sort of lost track which was which over the months haha.
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At this stage and only for my outdoor I've done wonder woman ( nirvana) and sour kush (reserva privada) are my two favourites but I have a host of others I would grow again no worries that include Pakistan valley,sr71,orange og ,pineapple chunk and red leicester tease.
Wonder woman I've had 2 phenos from 4 grows both awesome smoke but one pheno is a mad as fuck yielder and the sour kush the 50/50 hybrid pheno is the yielder and a great smoke but the more og kush leaner pheno is out of this world one hitter smoke but a smaller yielding plant by at least half and doesn't like topping as much as the 50/50 hybrid
 
Poontanger

Poontanger

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yes Noinch, agreed, but the 1st cross is a F1, the 2nd back to original pollen is known as a F2 & so on, each generation will become more & more stable, you should be able to get back to a F3 using same original pollen
Even frozen pollen breaks down over time , 12 months is rule of thumb , but there is exceptions , & that's why if you intend to breed from original pollen you bag up small amounts ,so you don't have defrost all your pollen & refreeze what you don't use, which shall help the viability of your pollen, you havnt had to open

Yes the further you go back, does head toward the original plant you collected from, but the influence from the mother ,is a huge help
Its only my opinion (& im far from an expert, but have bred for sum time) F1's arnt much chop (IMO), but hey each to there own

Good luck to any 1 having a go
 
Noinch

Noinch

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Poontanger said:
yes Noinch, agreed, but the 1st cross is a F1, the 2nd back to original pollen is known as a F2 & so on, each generation will become more & more stable, you should be able to get back to a F3 using same original pollen
Even frozen pollen breaks down over time , 12 months is rule of thumb , but there is exceptions , & that's why if you intend to breed from original pollen you bag up small amounts ,so you don't have defrost all your pollen & refreeze what you don't use, which shall help the viability of your pollen, you havnt had to open

Yes the further you go back, does head toward the original plant you collected from, but the influence from the mother ,is a huge help
Its only my opinion (& im far from an expert, but have bred for sum time) F1's arnt much chop (IMO), but hey each to there own

Good luck to any 1 having a go
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If you do a back cross it will be a bx1 not an f2

My point was you can inbreed a line as much as you want but unless you have hundreds and hundreds of plants to select from and different lines going so you can get a good grasp on what traits are being carried on by the time you hit say f4 you're going to be left with trash because all hybrid vigor will be lost and since you didn't have hundreds of plants to find the perfect traits you've just inbred a mess
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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Poontanger said:
yes Noinch, agreed, but the 1st cross is a F1, the 2nd back to original pollen is known as a F2 & so on, each generation will become more & more stable, you should be able to get back to a F3 using same original pollen
Even frozen pollen breaks down over time , 12 months is rule of thumb , but there is exceptions , & that's why if you intend to breed from original pollen you bag up small amounts ,so you don't have defrost all your pollen & refreeze what you don't use, which shall help the viability of your pollen, you havnt had to open

Yes the further you go back, does head toward the original plant you collected from, but the influence from the mother ,is a huge help
Its only my opinion (& im far from an expert, but have bred for sum time) F1's arnt much chop (IMO), but hey each to there own

Good luck to any 1 having a go
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Crossing a F1 back to either parent would make it a BX not a F2’s,crossing a male and female from the F1 gen will give you a F2 which will give large amount of variation
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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A good use for back crossing is cubing clone to make a seed version like Mr Soul did when making c99,crossing Princess with a Shiva Skunk male then selecting a male from that gen and putting it over the Princess. After 3 rounds doing that the progeny should roughly have 94% of their genetics coming from the mother. That’s the theory in reality the numbers will vary. There’s some good threads around especially by Chimera about the myth behind the cubing process.
 
2easy

2easy

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IBL's are best if your going to be collecting seeds each run and growing that strain each season or if your buying the same seeds expecting the same results each time.
but if your just pheno hunting for clone mums F1 and F2 are where the action is really.

i think i will F2 the calicannons. i am getting really chem dominant smells and i think because of the high percentage of chem in the stardawg you would expect a lot of really chem dominant phenotypes in the F2's
 
dopeonarope

dopeonarope

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OzCocoLoco said:
Did u get the ones with the Mexican dude on the label ? If you did have a good look at the football when you pot up and see if you think they are clones ? Those 3 are the same as I did last year
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Yeah these are hotheads. Grabbed another scorpion and a habanero today as well. Only one that isn't a clone is the habanero
 
Poontanger

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I understand all the above regaurding breeding , & call it what you wish B2's or F2's it doesn't matter, my point is , if you have grown a fem , for sum time, lets say Big Bomb(example only) & your happy with what you get & want to try & breed something simular, do you X a big bomb with big bomb...…...no , because there a hybrid in the first place , which I believe leads to genetical un rest, so you have to out X & breed back...……

theres a joker on here that does a lot of this & says he's gone back to a F6 with results Mmmmm, any way who am I to argue
 
Rbwnz

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I smuggled sum seeds back from Amsterdam bout 4 afghan n 3 cheese 3 white widow few of came out male gave them to a friend to arrange sexy night with his girls boys died b4 they could get the deed done would have been good genetics
 
Noinch

Noinch

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Poontanger said:
I understand all the above regaurding breeding , & call it what you wish B2's or F2's it doesn't matter, my point is , if you have grown a fem , for sum time, lets say Big Bomb(example only) & your happy with what you get & want to try & breed something simular, do you X a big bomb with big bomb...…...no , because there a hybrid in the first place , which I believe leads to genetical un rest, so you have to out X & breed back...……

theres a joker on here that does a lot of this & says he's gone back to a F6 with results Mmmmm, any way who am I to argue
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Yea nah if I was growing a strain and wanted essentially the same or similar again I might very well back cross but I would stick to the same strain and inbreed it not out cross to anything, then you're only adding in more genetic variables creating even more variation

This is why Ace seeds is such a respected breeder, they have extraordinary commercial inbred lines f8+ and have lines for breeding all the way up to f29 without issue
 
dopeonarope

dopeonarope

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Noinch said:
Yea nah if I was growing a strain and wanted essentially the same or similar again I might very well back cross but I would stick to the same strain and inbreed it not out cross to anything, then you're only adding in more genetic variables creating even more variation

This is why Ace seeds is such a respected breeder, they have extraordinary commercial inbred lines f8+ and have lines for breeding all the way up to f29 without issue
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Yeah I agree ace are one of the better ones in that regard. I can't remember what they took their original Malawi to before they started back crossing but they're crazy numbers for the same line
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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Poontanger said:
I understand all the above regaurding breeding , & call it what you wish B2's or F2's it doesn't matter, my point is , if you have grown a fem , for sum time, lets say Big Bomb(example only) & your happy with what you get & want to try & breed something simular, do you X a big bomb with big bomb...…...no , because there a hybrid in the first place , which I believe leads to genetical un rest, so you have to out X & breed back...……

theres a joker on here that does a lot of this & says he's gone back to a F6 with results Mmmmm, any way who am I to argue
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Using correct terminology only really matters if you want people to be able understand what your talking about.
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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dopeonarope said:
Yeah I agree ace are one of the better ones in that regard. I can't remember what they took their original Malawi to before they started back crossing but they're crazy numbers for the same line
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I guess those guys are working landrace stuff which hasn’t been bottle necked so they are working the line that much to lock in some traits that make it a more manageable strain ? Other than that I can’t see any reason that you’d go beyond F5 or 6 in most cases. I’m with @2easy in regards looking for good growers in F1’s but I think you’ll find better breeding males in later generations
 
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