Yeah im aware of all those methods was just the way i did it i didnt leave enough time to take clones i had to pick the plants i was going to put into the flower room at the time, and i was hoping they wouldve just shown their sex in the veg room before that but werent old enough so i just wacked them in the flower room 3-4 days until they showed sex thinking it wouldnt fuck up their hormones too much but it did

i was hoping someone on here mightve had a trick to avoid all those but is what it is. Thanks for your help brother