No offence mate but no one should be tellin you too much info about how seed companies do stealth online, anyone can read it, take it from fellow users, i have personally ordered from herbies and attitude with success, no letters or beans destroyed but i do know someone it happened to and yep as long as it's not a massive order they'll just seize them and send you a letter telling you where to collect your package, if your stupid enough to go, think about it, 80 to 150 bucks worth of seeds is hardly worth the wages and man hours to send someone out to your place, process charges etc but if they can get you in for free they're set! I've pointed out that stealth shipping shouldn't be discussed online before, that was many many pages ago though. If you wanna find out just how they do it you'll just have to do as the rest of us and order some for yourself bro