Cheers FIWH.. I'm gonna give the CFL's a whirl and see what happens.. As I said I'm just experimenting with free seeds at the moment, before I use the ones IWANT to work out Big Time.. ha ha hai started mine under a 600w no problemo just dont do anything stupid like have the light 10 inches away or something. i think i started mine at about 2 feet and lowered it each day and just monitored them for stress. they took it no problem.
the way i see it is i have always started my outdoor girls in full sun. if they can handle all day full aussie sun they can handle 600w.
that said if u have other options which i didnt why not save on electricity while u can and run cheaper lights.
personal choice really
dude always pays to start 2 seeds! fuck man feel sorry for ya kent! gut wrenching feeling shit! fuck you RIU! bahahaha!well.....I am very dissapointed.