Australia gun ban? U.S. gun ban?

should firearms regulations and bans continue to escalate in the U.S.?

  • yes

    Votes: 2 8.0%

  • no

    Votes: 23 92.0%
  • Total voters
    25
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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spandy said:
. Supreme sensationalism is more like it.
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just reducing his argument to its absurd conclusion.

we don't need gun laws because they don't stop gun crime.

thus, we don't need murder laws because they don't stop murder crime.

we don't need rape laws becauuse they don't stop rape crime.

hell, arizona might as well strike all the common sense drinking and driving laws they have put on the books. though those laws may have reduced DUI fatalities by 75%, they don't stop them all, so thus they are worthless.

reductio ad absurdum.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
UncleBuck said:
just reducing his argument to its absurd conclusion.

we don't need gun laws because they don't stop gun crime.

thus, we don't need murder laws because they don't stop murder crime.

we don't need rape laws becauuse they don't stop rape crime.

hell, arizona might as well strike all the common sense drinking and driving laws they have put on the books. though those laws may have reduced DUI fatalities by 75%, they don't stop them all, so thus they are worthless.

reductio ad absurdum.
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To do this more consistently, we need to compare objects to objects and events to events.
Murders and rapes are events, not objects. Rape could be objectified by saying it uses penises. Should we illegalize penises? I would expect some stiff resistance to that proposal. I can't draw a similar analogy with murder because it's a bit more diverse. Murder weapons range from bodies of water to syringes to rumors.

However I suggest that the gun problem is really a shooting problem. This is the event associated with almost 100% of gun-related controversy.
And guess what ... shooting someone outside of fully-defined legal circumstances is seriously illegal.

So talking about shooting laws would even that playing field by recognizing that a gun cannot be a crime; only a shooting can. cn
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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cannabineer said:
To do this more consistently, we need to compare objects to objects and events to events.
Murders and rapes are events, not objects. Rape could be objectified by saying it uses penises. Should we illegalize penises? I would expect some stiff resistance to that proposal. I can't draw a similar analogy with murder because it's a bit more diverse. Murder weapons range from bodies of water to syringes to rumors.

However I suggest that the gun problem is really a shooting problem. This is the event associated with almost 100% of gun-related controversy.
And guess what ... shooting someone outside of fully-defined legal circumstances is seriously illegal.

So talking about shooting laws would even that playing field by recognizing that a gun cannot be a crime; only a shooting can. cn
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a gun is just an object.

an object designed to kill humans as efficiently as possible.

lulz.

grasping at straws, bear.
 
Doer

Doer

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UncleBuck said:
a gun is just an object.

an object designed to kill humans as efficiently as possible.

lulz.

grasping at straws, bear.
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So full of shit. As efficiently as possible? A gun is not the way to kill efficiently. You mean the guillotine.
 
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silasraven

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Doer said:
So full of shit. As efficiently as possible? A gun is not the way to kill efficiently. You mean the guillotine.
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so post modern, 4x4 truck with a deer grill and the side walk of new york. 100 people less than a minute, add the oozy and its 200.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Doer said:
So full of shit. As efficiently as possible? A gun is not the way to kill efficiently. You mean the guillotine.
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you go to work offing people with your guillotine, i'll go to work with an AR15 with a 100 round drum.

let's compare body counts at the end of the day, shakira.
 
Doer

Doer

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You don't think 300 a day can be run past the blade? Scoff! Scoff!

I will bet you my Bob Marley wig, that you can shoot 100 people in the head and not kill them all.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Doer said:
You don't think a hundred a day can't be run past the blade? Scoff! Scoff!

I will bet you my Bob Marley wig, that you can shoot 100 people in the head and not kill them all.
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yeah, getting shot in the head is really one of the safest places to be shot for a person like you.

not much up there to damage.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Harrekin said:
Doer and Buck, just come out and be proud.

Yous are TOTALLY gay for each other.
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FDR was stopped from term 3.

syria is iran's route to the sea.

romney clearly said cannabis was a states' rights issue.

and a guillotine is more effective than an AR15 with a 100 round drum.

i just love making sport of idiots who say such things.
 
Doer

Doer

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Well, I don't know. A too little early to call the guillutine question.

We are just getting started. But, you do read it, oh fart wind.

And Buck. I love him. He is my fart wind sole mate. The diamond on the bottom of.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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UncleBuck said:
FDR was stopped from term 3.

syria is iran's route to the sea.

romney clearly said cannabis was a states' rights issue.

and a guillotine is more effective than an AR15 with a 100 round drum.

i just love making sport of idiots who say such things.
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Leaves picked off pot plants turn brown...

Yep, it is alot of fun.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
UncleBuck said:
a gun is just an object.

an object designed to kill humans as efficiently as possible.

lulz.

grasping at straws, bear.
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Seeing as you're in the mood for sophistry, a bow firing broadheads is much more efficient. More ghouls for your joules. cn
 
Figong

Figong

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UncleBuck said:
FDR was stopped from term 3.

syria is iran's route to the sea.

romney clearly said cannabis was a states' rights issue.

and a guillotine is more effective than an AR15 with a 100 round drum.

i just love making sport of idiots who say such things.
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RIU is my route to comedy, and is more effective than 3am informeraicials.
 
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spandy

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cannabineer said:
Seeing as you're in the mood for sophistry, a bow firing broadheads is much more efficient. More ghouls for your joules. cn
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That's no shit. Chest shot with a modern day broadhead propelled by a bow with a high draw weight on a human would be fatal nearly every time. Big hole, lots of blood coming out fast from both sides cuz that bitch is gonna go right through you. I'd rather take my chances with an ar15 and hope for the best.
 
Doer

Doer

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An AR in .223 is designed.... not to kill. So, 100 rounds is nothing compared to a day with Sir Guillotine.

Hot showers right around the corner and food! Just keep the line moving.
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

New Member
Doer said:
An AR in .223 is designed.... not to kill. So, 100 rounds is nothing compared to a day with Sir Guillotine.

Hot showers right around the corner and food! Just keep the line moving.
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Your right maime, but after a couple of rounds you ain't gonna be happy... Comparing a modern firearm to a guillotine is expected from you...

Next you'll tell us about the comparisons between chalk and cheese...
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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echelon1k1 said:
Your right maime, but after a couple of rounds you ain't gonna be happy... Comparing a modern firearm to a guillotine is expected from you...

Next you'll tell us about the comparisons between chalk and cheese...
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I'm pretty sure he's comparing intended usage.

Guillotine sure as fuck never just wounds the recipient of its mechanism..
 
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