Auto 250w cfl Cupboard grow - 3x Ultra Lemon Haze

lowblower · Oct 15, 2012

Day 72 (Day 32 of flower)

- Just flowering. For those who have just popped in:

This strain is recommended by the breeders to grow on 15/9 to allow it to autoflower. I started on 18/6 but there was no change after a month and so i was running out of time and went straight to 12/12.

Im also running at 500w now, with 2x 250 red spectrum cfl's under a twin reflector.

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Oh yeah and something magical growing in the bags on the floor in the shade :lol:

lowblower · Oct 16, 2012

I really need to get a better watering schedule. Ive been trying to wait till teh soil is completely dry before watering. But every now and then i misjudge by a day and they droop down and look sick as fuck with leaves going nectrotic! Can't get sloppy this late in! Gonna water now every 4th day, and if im gonna be busy, ill water on the 3rd day.

Dameon · Oct 17, 2012

lowblower said:
I really need to get a better watering schedule. Ive been trying to wait till teh soil is completely dry before watering. But every now and then i misjudge by a day and they droop down and look sick as fuck with leaves going nectrotic! Can't get sloppy this late in! Gonna water now every 4th day, and if im gonna be busy, ill water on the 3rd day.

Ive had the same stoner problem waiting one day too many to water. Lookin great, lowblower! I do love cfls. Harvest draws near. Stay crunchy! *Crunch* *Crunch*

lowblower · Oct 18, 2012

Yeah dameon, i've noticed that every time i leave watering a day late, a load of leaves show what looks like potassium or phsophorous deficiency or something, then they die within a day or two. I think maybe the plant can't take any P/k from the soil as it doesn't have the water, so it take it from the leaves to use to make more flowers. But i might be wrong. But yeah, ive noticed my plants getting a lil bit sick looking with this particular deficiency, and its got worse ever time i let them droop. The leaves that get affected don't recover they slowly die

Im watering tomorrow so ill take some pics with an update, not alot visibly changed tbh

La Brigada · Oct 18, 2012

looking good man, should be some awesome smoke..good luck with the heat issues too, im on the same tip with that

lowblower · Oct 19, 2012

Waddup La Brigada! Thanks for the compliments

Good luck with your heat issues. Ive had loads of repeating problems with it but i got it under control now (well its only because the days are colder now hehe)

Day 76 (Day 36 of flower)

-I was gonna take some pics but i forgot. Not a great deal has changed so im gonna wait a few days and there might be some noticable changes.
- The flowers are gettin heavy now, plus because the plants on each side of the room have bent towards the light slightly, they are really finding it hard to stay up now. So i had to do put some large drip trays into the growroom and slide them under the smartpots (they already have small circular drip trays but these usually fill up with run-off and leak) so that i can water the plants from inside the growroom. Its a real pain, its really uncomfortable! But i cant risk moving them now because i fear that branches will snap now. I had to tie some wire around the topped plant to stop it leaning right down into the middle plant! So things are gettin a bit more complex lol But not long now then it will be harvest and easy once again with tiny little seedlings lol
- fed today with full strength autoflower bloom nutes (dutch pro), 3ml / gal of pk13/14, 5ml / gal of grow natural (humbolt nutrients) and 3ml/ gal of structural integrity for pH balancing (pure silicate). SO should be a nice lil boost for those flowers. The smaller of the un-topped plants has a really spongy looking main cola, its really thick with hairs its crazy, i cant wait to see how it develops. :weed:

next update with pics i promise!

EDIT: I gave in and took a pic lol

- I REALLY need to sort out the one on the right now, she is leaning in almost ontop of her lil sister (u can just barely see the top of her at the back in the middle, the two side plants are engulfing her hehe)

LiquidJunglist · Oct 20, 2012

So where are you getting those Dutch Pro Auto nuts? Are they just the the Original Bloom A & B. Having trouble finding them. Thanks.

lowblower · Oct 20, 2012

LiquidJunglist said:
So where are you getting those Dutch Pro Auto nuts? Are they just the the Original Bloom A & B. Having trouble finding them. Thanks.

They were just in my loacal hydro store. Search on google for 'Dutch Pro autoflower A+B' and see what comes up for ur local area

They look like this http://www.greenfinger-hydroponics.co.uk/articledetails.php?ArticleID=1874

UPDATE:

- They are showing a tiny bit of nute burn on some leaves. That pk13/14 sure is strong stuff. Gonna go down to 2ml/ gal for next feed, maybe even 1ml/ gal

hotrodharley · Oct 20, 2012

loboy I read your posts and see your pics regularly and have it in mind when these fools go off about "try flowering or getting any real yield with CFL". You got it going on, my man. You got it going on. Keep rollin'!!!!!

lowblower · Oct 22, 2012

hotrodharley said:
loboy I read your posts and see your pics regularly and have it in mind when these fools go off about "try flowering or getting any real yield with CFL". You got it going on, my man. You got it going on. Keep rollin'!!!!!

Thanks man, i think a good quality reflector is essential if your using cfl. But heat is still an issue with these things, i would advise any prospective cfl growers to still use a decent ventilation system in the growroom! The other thing is the light penetration ability. Maybe if these were TRUE autos, they would be alot more 'filled out' because the light would only need to go through about 2 foot to get the the lowest bud sites, but these semi autos are like a meter tall and so the buds are focused in the first 1/2 - 1.5 foot of the canopy.

Day 79 (Day 39 of flower)

- My normal camera i use is out of action for a week or so, thats why the pics have been crappy the last week. Theres not much point uploading any more coz the crappy camera ive been substituted with can't take up close shots so i can only do shots of the whole room.
- The plants ARE showing noticable damage from the PK 13/14 now from last weeks feed. I fed at half strength, which was 3ml/ gal. I should have stayed at 1ml/ gal but i wanted to push it to half strength, but they obviously cant take it. There is necrosis of leaf tips pretty bad on the large top bud near to the light, i guess the nute burn has also destroyed the main buds ability to cope with the temps of being so close to the light, as those leafs nute burn has travelled 4x the distance of any other plants/areas of plants leaf burn.
- So yeah, my bad. Most leaves are still OK, but there is some bad damage on the main bud of the big girl. Be careful of the pk 13/14 !!! 1ml/ gal should suffice!

EDIT: ok screw it i just got some pics from my broken camera

UPDATE- I just watered my plants with mineral water with molasses, and for what its worth i added a bit of superthrive for the first time since they were like an inch tall. I also added some more soil bacteria for what its worth (probably nothing at this stage)

Group pic: Most the leaves are still OK. There are two clear phenotypes i have noticed due to the smell of the THC

The large girl: Really affected by the 1/2 strength pk13/14 last week. Much nute burn, made worse by being the closest plant to the light. She should hang in there though.

The topped plant: Still going strong, with some really frosty bud sites!

The smaller girl. This is the second phenotype, because the THC smells strange, like a really dull spice. I think i had this phenotype on my last grow but i thought it was a phenotype of one of the pineapple express i had instead (because it thought that was where i planted the PE). Its got a very similiar smell to the strange one i had last grow, and i suspect it will turn into the same final smell: very musky spice mixed with fuel and manure LOL so....think im gonna prefer the other two grapefruit smelling plants i got. Apparantly it tasted nice in a joint though.

lowblower · Oct 24, 2012

just vaped a bit of a lower branch bud, one of the best things about vaping, i can sample wet weed

not like smokin wet weed in a J when u must breath air through wet buds, with vaping u heat all the bud at once. So all water vapour is sterilised etc. This weed is really nice and if i got another 2-3 weeks left then shes gonna b awesome bit of smoke!

been high for the last 2 hours still high now :leaf:

Dameon · Oct 25, 2012

lowblower said:
Thanks man, i think a good quality reflector is essential if your using cfl. But heat is still an issue with these things, i would advise any prospective cfl growers to still use a decent ventilation system in the growroom! The other thing is the light penetration ability. Maybe if these were TRUE autos, they would be alot more 'filled out' because the light would only need to go through about 2 foot to get the the lowest bud sites, but these semi autos are like a meter tall and so the buds are focused in the first 1/2 - 1.5 foot of the canopy.

Day 79 (Day 39 of flower)

- My normal camera i use is out of action for a week or so, thats why the pics have been crappy the last week. Theres not much point uploading any more coz the crappy camera ive been substituted with can't take up close shots so i can only do shots of the whole room.
- The plants ARE showing noticable damage from the PK 13/14 now from last weeks feed. I fed at half strength, which was 3ml/ gal. I should have stayed at 1ml/ gal but i wanted to push it to half strength, but they obviously cant take it. There is necrosis of leaf tips pretty bad on the large top bud near to the light, i guess the nute burn has also destroyed the main buds ability to cope with the temps of being so close to the light, as those leafs nute burn has travelled 4x the distance of any other plants/areas of plants leaf burn.
- So yeah, my bad. Most leaves are still OK, but there is some bad damage on the main bud of the big girl. Be careful of the pk 13/14 !!! 1ml/ gal should suffice!

EDIT: ok screw it i just got some pics from my broken camera

UPDATE- I just watered my plants with mineral water with molasses, and for what its worth i added a bit of superthrive for the first time since they were like an inch tall. I also added some more soil bacteria for what its worth (probably nothing at this stage)

View attachment 2383348 Group pic: Most the leaves are still OK. There are two clear phenotypes i have noticed due to the smell of the THC
View attachment 2383349 The large girl: Really affected by the 1/2 strength pk13/14 last week. Much nute burn, made worse by being the closest plant to the light. She should hang in there though.

View attachment 2383350 The topped plant: Still going strong, with some really frosty bud sites!
View attachment 2383351 The smaller girl. This is the second phenotype, because the THC smells strange, like a really dull spice. I think i had this phenotype on my last grow but i thought it was a phenotype of one of the pineapple express i had instead (because it thought that was where i planted the PE). Its got a very similiar smell to the strange one i had last grow, and i suspect it will turn into the same final smell: very musky spice mixed with fuel and manure LOL so....think im gonna prefer the other two grapefruit smelling plants i got. Apparantly it tasted nice in a joint though.

Everything is looking great man! Don't stress too much about the PK thing. Your plants are healthy! Keep it up! Stay crunchy! *Crunch*

lowblower · Oct 25, 2012

Thanks man, its nice to get positive feedback even whehn u know u made a mistake lol At least i know now for my next go. Not gonna go above 2ml/ gal for the PK in the future. I think another 2 weeks till harvest, ill get my proper camera back soon and ill post some pics probably by tuesday next week. Thanks anyone thats following i hope u can get some good advice from this (or turn the bad advice into good advice lol) :leaf:

lowblower · Oct 29, 2012

Day 86 (Day 46 of flower)

- So i learnt my lesson for the PK13/14. The rest of the plant is fine and the top buds nute burn has not got worse so its all good. New calyxes popping out the buds all the time.
- Fed the last bit of the PK today (1.5ml/ gal) with pH adjusted warm tapwater and 2 tsp of humbolt honey ES mollases. My 3x 3gal smart pots drink about 8 litres every 3-4 days together, so thats just under 2 gals.
- The smell of the grapefruit phenos is just toooooo tempting. Like grapefruit candy :-P

3 shots of the tops bud(s) and then one of a nice n frosty lower bud

The topped girl. Many medium tops. Im really interested in her final dry weight, im hoping a 1.5 Oz :-/ hard to tell

The smaller girl. She has a different phenotype to the other two. The smell is like musky spice and B.O. and manure, not pleasant lol but definitely interesting. The fan leaves are way more sativa looking and are alot darker in colour. The buds are very spongy looking and there are so many hairs its like a feather duster. Doesn't seem to have as many crystals on it as the other two, but it may be a different story once she has finished up.

theyre all in there somewhere. The mutated AKR is all smoked now lol she was lovely though.

lowblower · Nov 1, 2012

Day 89 (49 of 12/12) NB: THIS GROW IS NOW A 12/12 'SEMI AUTO' GROW UNDER 500W CFL - read the bloody thing!

- lovely smell coming from the growroom at night time. Really citrusy sweet/earthy grapefruit
- A barrage of new pics. Thats about all thats new lol still about 80% white hairs, so another two weeks i think till i pull them up.

lowblower · Nov 5, 2012

Day 93 (53 of 12/12) NB: THIS GROW IS NOW A 12/12 'SEMI AUTO' GROW UNDER 500W CFL - read the bloody thing!

- Just pulled a teeny lower bud off to vape for the fireworks display later. It was just sooooooo frosty i couldn't resist, but it was a thin one, not one of the fatties :-P

- Ive just been standing at my cupboard entrance sampling the thc on the pinch test for about the last 20 minutes i feel like a fiend. The smells are just so complex i cant stop! The smaller girl with the second pheno smells like liquid parafin now. Just pure parafin, its kinda harsh to smell lol like its toxic, its sayin 'u better be ready bitch'. The other two girls have very complex aromas i can't fingure out if they smell like lemons or grapefruit, but its a mixure of both. One of the other lower buds even smelled like the grape flavour KA drink. I can't wait to cure this shit. gonna b bomb.
- Just scoped some trichs with my magnifying thing, on the small bud i pulled out. Mostly milky trichs about 70% milky, 25% clear and 5% amber. I think im gonna be pulling these up in a week. I like a nice clear high wth my sativas plus im gagging to cure and vape this shit and let my friends sample some hehe i think im gonna blaze a fatty with them just for curiousity lol

^ one of the lower thin buds but with a nice frosting to get me high later. Gonna vape this. Predominantly grapefruity with sharp citrus undertones :leaf:

lowblower · Nov 6, 2012

Just gave her last feed: 1/6th strength organic veg feed, 1/2 strength bloom and full strength mollases. Next two waterings are gonna be (1) half strength mollases and (2) warm tap water. Then i reckon it will be time to pull a few days after that. I think the untopped girl is gonna yeild the most, followed by the topped and then the smaller pheno :leaf:

tick tock tick tock

JtotheC · Nov 6, 2012

WOW those are nice quality buds !!! I can't wait to know about your dry weight. If i did know how to give +rep i would !! I really like how your thread is well written and informative for newbies cfl growers !

Also can you tell us how tall they are right now ? Thanks a bunch

Stay High

lowblower · Nov 6, 2012

JtotheC said:
WOW those are nice quality buds !!! I can't wait to know about your dry weight. If i did know how to give +rep i would !! I really like how your thread is well written and informative for newbies cfl growers !

Also can you tell us how tall they are right now ? Thanks a bunch

Stay High

thanks man, im hoping for an average of 1.5 Oz dry per plant. If i get that ill be really happy but im really hoping for 5 Oz. Well, they are supposedly semi-autos, and the breeder recommends 15/9 or 12/12 from seed. But i fucked up and did 18/6 from seed to i had about a month of veg before i had to flip to 12/12. They are about a meter tall now. I will do this strain again but ill save it for a 12/12 grow because the auto trait is unstable and i wouldn't use this strain in a multi-strain-auto grow. I tried to make it easy to understand but Ive probably confused any newbies even more than they were before hehe

lowblower · Nov 8, 2012

A few buds from the big girl, smells like some weird kinda sweet fruit.....or a fruit flavoured sweet

Glimpse of the topped girl, very fruity and citrusy

The smaller pheno, smells like paraffin. Reallly receeding now, but im waiting for the other two to ripen up because im also drying in my growroom (you get busted for commercial growing if you have a separate drying room where im from)

Chopping on monday unless new calyxes appear by then :leaf:

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