would like to start a tread on auto's and see what every one is thinking about them. Have gone with diesel ryder to start with. will try a new one every year. The place they have in my area is they will be out of the field before the bird leaves the hanger. This is a good thing, as I enjoy a good out door grow. Here they can take your home is caught growing indoors. First one poped its head out of the ground on the 10th of April,this year. Have 9 that started. Not bad, none of the green house seeds came out. They were not auto's but part of the outdoor grow. Will cry to Attitude about it. Am marking the calendar for day 17 and see if they are true to when the males show. Peace