auto-flowering reuteralis?

so... say your plants turned out to be feminised auto-flowering reuteralis? you are in week five of veg and you have large pistol formation, and bud sites starting to show... what would be the best way to treat the plants? should light cycles be switched to 12/12? would you leave tthem the same? also if at 5 weeks your crop was hitting the point of no return(less than 2 feet from a sodium light that cannot be raised any more[about 4.5 feet]) what are the effects of topping?

i would include some pictures but the babies are at a friends house and i wont see them till tomorrow, ill get some pics up then tho because these things are impresive (imho).

any advice for a newbie who started this out as a joke would be greatly appreciated... ive heard that spraying should be discontinued at this point, ive been using a diluted 10-15-10 leaf feeder for them till now... i use the full strength for regular feeding... pro-mix for the medium with some kind of 9 month time released food 8-14-12, i feed 400ml of water too my 5 liter buckets split between two feedings a day, its like 3.5feet, by 2.5 feet, by 6 feet tall, with a 400w hps standard spectrum industrial supply lamp and one of the plants has reached about a foot taller than the others, things are going so well i dont want to fuck anything up now

well, as it sounds, you invested into low rider strained seeds since they start to flower without you cuttin the light cycle. as far as i know there is nothing to do to stop them from flowering once it has started.
you could still top them but it would cut the yield, so tying them down is the only good way to go.
by the way, it is odd that they stretched that much if it is low rider, this strain hardly ever makes it to 2ft., did you fixed those MH to the sealing or what did you to screw it up that badly??

well, i hope i didnt screw anything up too badly, ive been spending my time learning, and this is me building experiance. i dont have mh lights, i have a 400w hps setup, before i had that i had about 275w of cool white and and daylight cfl and 1.5"floro tubes. what i have learned is that the large(9 inch) 11-13 leaved fan leafs are indicitive of a strong indica native to dry arid regions of the world ive seen pictures of people standing on chairs pruning plants like this 7-9 feet in height(i was told they were afghani, which fits) 13 leafed sets are a result regularly of genetic manipulation which could be explained by the feminization of the seeds they sprouted from... ive labeled them as a strand of reuteralis due too the unusually fast onset of a flowering stage mixxed with near uncontrolable growth. the stretch was phoenominal, i found myself raising the light at least an inch a day about 2 weeks after introducing my hps to the environment with one plant stretching visually faster than the others(they range in differance of height by almost 2 feet which could be because the buckets are all different sizes).

my questions are not concerning the steps i have taken to this point (with all due respect) they are concerning the steps i should take from here. today they cannot all be the same distance from the light (radical differance in height) bending is somthing i have concidered, but to do so would be to cover other plants(they are all right against each other)

now, may be a newbie, and this may be the closest ive ever gotten to a living plant, but ive been a lover of the fruits of my passion for many years now, and when i look at these plants, i feel that nothing is screwed up thus far (again imho). the things i speak of are a culmination of the stories/experiances/videos ive gathered from places like here and erowid, so i am open to constructive criticisim, but plz dont call my babiez screw ups.

one more thing i have learned.... long periods of time looking at somthing in a hps light can give you a tan. and long periods of time with clones (floro's) will make you more sensitive to other lights, increasing residual "tracers" produced by things like street lights or incandescent lights in your field of vision.

i now have a pair of goggles, designed for daytime snowboarding. but the damage done to ones vision over a very short time period by bright lights will only regenerate to an expected 70% of original efficency.

anyone steping into a grow room with any regularity should research the effect of high intensity lights on the eyes. if the sun creates aprox 10000 lumen per square ft on a summer day, and your light produces 7000-8000 lumen per square foot, staring at your closet can be 7/10ths to 3/4ths the intensity of staring at somthing outside on a summer day, and you are supposed to wear uv protection for the eyes on summer days.

sudden exposure to lights can even produces ulcers(blisters) on the eyeball

I hate to pipe in with bad news, but that type of marijuana is typically very low in thc, and not commonly grown, usually growers use either a sativa or indica.
Heres some info for ya:
Situated: Limited to parts of Russia and Central Asia.
Leaf type: Wide but small
Number of leaf blades: 4 – 6 blades per leaf.
Leaf colour: Dark green.
Height: Small (less than 4 feet).
Stems: Thick.
Nodes: Very short with lots of branches.
Seeds: Large seeds.
Buds: Dense buds with a low THC.
Fibre: Ruderalis is not suitable for producing fibre.
Psychic effect: Low THC so minimal effects.
Flowering: Short flowering period. Flowers early and when growing indoors can go into bud irrespective of the lighting period.

well...thank you for the info, what you described is actually nothing like my plant... other than the fact that it used to be short and is a relatively dark color, ill let ya know what the result is

Geez Robot boy, you are the one who sais it was a ruderalis, not me. I was just sharing the info on it with you.
It sounds like it is too, it is (1) short (2) dark (3) auto-flowering, that last one is the clincher too.

sorry mr. videoman... not meaning to sound snappy, just stickin up for my babiez im sure you understand.

i have decided while watching these things on my own that they are a reuteralis strand... but when it comes down to it, i dont know much more than what these plants have been telling me as they grow, ive included a picture of what i know about marijuana.

this plant is quite dark, but tall and very young, also notice the gargantuous 11 leafed fan... and then i hope you tell me that it has some thc in it (or will). im gonna keep growin it for now cuz hey, ive already put my heart in the closet. i got the seeds for free through a winfall but they did cost somone alot of money. also somone took the time to feminize them for some reason

These are low rider's at one month old. Yours look more sativa looking to me.

These strains also auto flower:
Guerilla Gold
-GG(earlygold/Mightymite)
-MasterWonderSkunk(E.W.S crossed with a MasterLow)
-EarlyWonderSkunk & EarlyBramble

Heres some more info on ruderalis
The return of Ruderalis
I am not sure what you have.

lowryder 2 autoflowering marijuana seeds

There's an auto-flowering thc-producing thing. I think it's awesome.

Yeah, you would think so huh?

dont get me wrong...I dont think Lowryder is useless...I'd think this would be a be a great strain for outdoor guerrila grows...or for a simple winter grow with low lighting, but as far as the other factors are concerned, theres more suitable stuff for micro-closets, and you can then keep clones around instead of having to order more, or waste half of your crop to just make more seeds??

I'd hate to see somebody get 5 years for growing 10 of these dwarves!!...thats why I think they are better suited for outdoor grows..IMO Lowryder is for teenagers who are tryring to grow some stash at home without their parents knowing about it, or from growers paranoid of growing cannabis, and all they think about is how fast can they grow a plant and smoke it..??...

I can name at least 10 strains of the top of my head that will be as productive as this plant with more potency, small stature, early finishing and a lot easier abilty to clone..the fact that LR is very hard/impossible to clone makes it a very lucrative strain for the seedbanks, and frankly, I dont think this strains worth the price...its just another novelty strain IMO..

I'd rather spend my cash on something thats gonna be worth the time/energy..waiting for 6 weeks to grow like a 1/4-1/2 of an OZ seems to be more trouble than its worth??

just add up the cost of seeds,electricity,fans,dirt,etc,etc, and than add up your harvested weight..in most instances, its easier to just buy finished products that having to grow it your self if all your gonna get is like 5 grams per plant??

^^that is a very true one about LR

I've seen some successful lowryder grows, and they were certainly more than 5 grams, more like 1/2 oz. The weed wasn't the strongest, but...

Masterlow seems to be more than twice as strong as Lowryder, approximating afghan-like highs, and a plant that finishes about an oz at two feet.

I've also seen, and smelled, some of the low/masterlow crosses that I knew were quite potent, I'm just waiting for a friend to cure them.

Of course, up til a little while ago, people were just trying to get the autoflower to be stable, now it's getting to be super potent.

At this point in the game, the crosses of these plants have less than 5% ruderalis makeup to them, probably closer to 1/64 or 1/128 of that "mysterious mexican ruderalis" that they all started with.

And making your own seeds is too easy with them, they aren't all tall, spreading their pollen everywhere, and since they are so short and sturdy, you don't even need a fan to grow them, or spread pollen around.

those plants are not ruderalis. that's sativa if you ask me. with maybe just a hint of indo. very, very nice looking bushes. you either have to top them or bend them over. that or find a taller room.

most ruderalis plants you will see now a days have been cross bred. i myself have 3 femanised ruderalis-sativas. in my closet as well only two have sprouted so far. im not sure what kind of light i should be giving them, someone told me its fine to give them 24 hours of light a day, so they basically have been getting that until i figure out a healthier method. any help for me?

but really when you think about it, why would low thc ruderalis seeds be around? probalby because they have been crossbred and now produce good thc. and obviously noone would feminise these seeds if they produce low thc. im sure they will be fine. even if you look on sensi seeds, and all over there is alot of ruderalis crossed strains all over. im sure your bud will be great.

Maybe ruderalis indica or ruderalis sativa more likely? Sensi do a more potent version of these.

this is my first post , I'm growing some auto fast bud and auto assasin now like one week left till their done . I'm growing them under a 4oo watt hps 20 on 4 off their gonna yield around an oz each plant far from reg plants but fun to grow if you want a snappy harvest i will post some pic tomorrow