auto lighting..24/7 or 20/4?

SASquad

Active Member
whatsup, im growing three auto strains in my closet. auto bomb, white dwarf, and pakistan ryder. im wonder if 24/7 lighting is alright all the way through. ive heard people do 20/4 because autos rest for 4 hours automatically even under 24/7 to save electricity, but im not worried about the extra 4 hours if it increases my yield. ive also heard from someone who claims to have grown under both who said that the one under 20/4 had less dense bud and a lower yield then the 24/7.

whats your opinion? i tried posting this on grasscity and didnt get much feedback so im hoping this site will help me out a little more.

i figure the more light the more growth, and ive heard the myth that buds only produce resin in the dark, but i saw some grow journals of autos grown under 24/7 and they looked great.
 
I read in the lowryder journal that a high yield is dependent upon more light. I'd personally go with 24/7 especially since the yield won't be near that of a photo strain.
 

SASquad

Active Member
yeah thats what i think. but everyone seems to think something different so its hard to get advice.
 

maddog123

New Member
dude to be honest jump on the site and have a look see what the BREEDER has to say about them!! surely you can figure it out..
 

SASquad

Active Member
well im growing three different strains under the same light, and i cant find any information on the breeder
 

SASquad

Active Member
what does that mean? hha try it out? yeah im currently growing them under 24/7. their still seedlings.
 

maddog123

New Member
yeh have a try!! ive heard both too but from memory last year when i was auto-hooked i read 20/4 from a breeder both should work auto's mature with age not photoperiod you prolly know this already tho?
 

SASquad

Active Member
yeah, i just want to know if growing them under 24/7 will do any damage (lower yield, less dense, less resin, ect.)
 
24/7 WILL result in lower yield 18:6 to 20:4 is what produces the best as far as yeild and potency however your plant WILL mature faster on 24:7
 

frmrboi

Well-Known Member
ive heard the myth that buds only produce resin in the dark,.
it is a myth, you seem like an inteligent person so here is the science:
24/0 is best. -Ed Rosenthal
This is a direct quote from Ed Rosenthal whom most of you know is a marijuana growing guru:
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marijuana plants photosynthesize as long as they receive light as well as water, air, nutrients and suitable temperature. Photosynthesis is the process in which plants use the energy from light (primarily in the blue and red spectrum's) to combine carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air and water (H2O) to make sugar while releasing oxygen to the air.
Plants use sugars continuously to fuel metabolic processes (living) as well as for tissue building. The plant combines nitrogen (N) with the sugar to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins. They are the substance of plant tissue. When the light is off, the plant's metabolic processes, respiration and growth, continue.
The plant can photosynthesize continuously so it produces the most energy and growth when the light is on, continuously. Continuous light does not stress the plant, which reacts somewhat mechanistically to it.
Plants under an 18-6 light-dark regimen are producing sugar only three quarters of the time. They are thus growing at only 75% of their potential. Leaving the light on continuously will result in bigger plants, faster, which leads to higher yields."
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"The following information is straight from Greg Green's "The Cannabis Grow Bible"
Cannabis is a light demanding plant. Professional growers keep the light on their plants using the 24/0 photoperiod for this reason. Plants that grow under 24/0 flourish and do not need a quantity of darkness in order to rest and perform photosynthesis properly. Plants that are grown in optimal conditions under 24/0 light regime grow vigorusly and the benefits of a 24/0 photoperiod can be seen actively in the results. More nodes are formed, more branches are created, leaf numbers increase, the plant is growing at its finest.
Some growers opt to use 18/6 as their photoperiod. This is 18 hours of light, six hours of darkness light regime. Under these conditions the plant will grow quite naturally but not as vigorously as the 24/0 photoperiod.
The 18/6 photoperiod expels 3/4 the amount of light that a 24/0 photoperiod does. Although this does not mean that a plant produces 1/4 less leaves,branches and nodes under the 18/6 photoperiod, it certainly does show the correlation between light and cannabis growth. As we have said already, cannabis is a light demanding plant. There are no problems associated with 24/0 and although some have attributed cannabis sexual dysfunction (the hermaphrodite conditon) to 18/6 photoperiod these problems are actually the result of heat stress.
A 24/0 photoperiod requires that your grow room temperature be kept well monitored. The 18/6 option is cheaper to run. You use a quarter less electricity and this will have an impact on your electricity bill. Also the 18/6 photoperiod will generally extend the bulb's lifespan. During the 6 hours of darkness the grow room is allowed to cool down for this period but a well maintained good grow room setup should not require a cooling down period.
24/0 and 18/6 both share the same problem though. Once you start the photoperiod you should keep that way especially when the plants near maturity (the preflowering stage). An irregular photoperiod can cause more males than females to develop. It can also cause sexual dysfunction to appear. Whether you choose 24/0 or 18/6 as your vegetative photoperiod try to keep that photoperiod unitl your plants are mature enough to express their sex."
24/0 is superior insofar as plant growth
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Most green plants are classified as either C3 or C4 which represents how carbon(C) is used during photosynthesis.
C4 plants temporarily store carbon dioxide(CO2) over the dark period to use for photosynthesis during the day. C4 plants slow down photosynthesis once the stored CO2 is used up and they need to gather it from the air. Which is why trees slow down photosynthesis in the afternoon even though the sun is still bright. This does NOT apply to cannabis.
C3 plants(cannabis/veggies) gather CO2 only during the light period when they are photosynthesizing. During the dark period these plants only use oxygen for their metabolic life processes. They don't uptake CO2, nor do they use it. As soon and as long as the light is on, C3 plants gather and use CO2 for photosynthesis.
C3 plants also have the ability to use higher concentrations of CO2 than what is found in the air. If the light is bright enough and the plants have sufficient nutes, their growth rate will accelerate from it(2000ppm vs. 400ppm of CO2), which increases yield. They can do this continuously, wihtout a dark period throughout the vegetative stage.
The dark reaction is a process of photosynthesis that takes place in both darkness and light. It uses ATP and NADPH molecules that hold energy absorbed from light to break apart CO2 into it's base components. Because it's called a dark reaction and can occur in the dark, some people(Jorge) have said darkness is needed for this to occur. This Is Not So.
Again people get anthropomorphic with their plant needs. People need rest, so plants must too. This is false as well. Light means growth. Scientifically. Although 18/6 will shock your plants less when you switch to 12/12, it's a personal choice whether you would rather sacrifice a little growth for a quicker adjustment or less photo confusion. If you want to save money or energy that's a personal choice too. Do what you need to do to make your growing scenario work.
 

Endur0xX

Well-Known Member
how do they make those autoflowering plants? I mean what was the process of creating those! anyone?
 

Endur0xX

Well-Known Member
so it's all natural and it can be all organic? like it hasnt been modified genetically? once it's start flowering can you keep it under 24/0 light cycle for the full growth until harvest? if yes, which strain are the best/fastest!? THANKS
 

frmrboi

Well-Known Member
so it's all natural and it can be all organic? like it hasnt been modified genetically? once it's start flowering can you keep it under 24/0 light cycle for the full growth until harvest? if yes, which strain are the best/fastest!? THANKS
all natural, technically yes you can leave the lights on 24/0 but some refuse to bloom unless you do drop them down to 12/12 which really makes them a failed cross.
I don't grow them so I have no recomendations.
You could get the same results and a more potent weed by growing from clones and flowering as soon as they root IMHO.
 
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