Auto LST 500w cfl - 3x Ultra lemon haze (auto seeds) 1x Afghan kush ryder (WOS)
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lowblower
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i finished two on my last grow and they took alot of crap, i seriously abused them but they still auto flowered on 20/4 light schedule, really got dense on week 9 or 10, but they could have even done with an extra week! they were soooo frosty and dense, i just had to get some more. they are doing well this time round too. I noticed some light scorching on the leaf blades so ive had to turn off one of my lights. The afghan kush ryder really hasnt coped with the heat well at all though. It gets way too hot in there with 500w, so im jus goin half strength till winter. Its impossible to be in my room its like a sauna. The outdoor air is warm before it even goes through the bloody growroom lol its a shame but i hadnt seen this problem coming!
keep an eye oni the Ultra lemon haze here though, i think they will do fine now 
lowblower
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thanks Dameon, the leaf blades started to turn up coz of the heat, so i turned my wattage down to 250. ive also removed the AKR coz it seems like a bit of a mutant and the pot is so big thats its more of a burden to my growroom than a plus. With just one light now, the floorspace is gonna go all to my healthy ultra lemon hazes. fingers crossed!
lowblower
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All plants under just one 250w cfl because of unforseen heat issues. I think the 240 m3/h extractor would be fine but the outddor weather is so hot here that it doesnt provide any cool air to circulate the growroom. I will go back to using 500w for a week at the last week or so of flowering. And ill use 500w through winter too.
Was just gonna give the AKR to my friend but i decided to repot it to a smaller container. It seems a bit mutated from the seed so its not much concern to me now, but if it gives me a free bit of smoke ill take it!
The third ULH i got, just topped it just above the 5th node, at 2 weeks from seed. Dunno how it wil turn out. Ive heard to top at the 2nd node, but i was on holiday so shit happens. Ive just topped this one for experimental purposes. The other two ULH im just gonna bbe using the LST, they are both on their 4th nodes now.
Razor cut at 5th node, woops, rookie camera job!
lowblower
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Its almost three weeks now (monday).
They have grown pretty well, but they have slowed down alot over the last few days.
Ive fed them superthive 3 times (the first time was very weak), and babybio veg nutes twice at around 1/6th strength.
Ive watered about 5 times. Everything has been pH corrected with Humbolt nutrients 'structural integrity', to be around 6.2-6.4
Ive noticed a couple f rust spots on each plant i dont know why. I think it might turn out to be a calcium deficiency, but i dunno how because ive added calcific lime to the soil mix. So, ill just have to see how they turn out. Do you think there would be salt buildup from the nutes ive used? I dont see how, but i might have rushed them with the veg nutes :/ first feed was when they were about 12 days old and at around the 2nd or 3rd node. I fed very weak superthrive when they were transplanted at 4 days old, and again when they were about 12 days old and then again yesterday.
Ill post more pics on monday and just keep an eye on them till then. Thanks to anyone who is following, i hope ill be able to show u some decent buds at the end and do the strain some justice! :/
They have grown pretty well, but they have slowed down alot over the last few days.
Ive fed them superthive 3 times (the first time was very weak), and babybio veg nutes twice at around 1/6th strength.
Ive watered about 5 times. Everything has been pH corrected with Humbolt nutrients 'structural integrity', to be around 6.2-6.4
Ive noticed a couple f rust spots on each plant
i dont know why. I think it might turn out to be a calcium deficiency, but i dunno how because ive added calcific lime to the soil mix. So, ill just have to see how they turn out. Do you think there would be salt buildup from the nutes ive used? I dont see how, but i might have rushed them with the veg nutes :/ first feed was when they were about 12 days old and at around the 2nd or 3rd node. I fed very weak superthrive when they were transplanted at 4 days old, and again when they were about 12 days old and then again yesterday. Ill post more pics on monday and just keep an eye on them till then. Thanks to anyone who is following, i hope ill be able to show u some decent buds at the end and do the strain some justice! :/
lowblower
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19 days
^ Just a couple of group shots. The ULH in the front right corner is the one that has been topped at the 5th node
^ My mutated AKR and the topped ULH
^ some rust spots appearing on a couple of the ULH. This could either be calcium deficiency or from heat stress. It may be damage from when i had both lights on, which has only just started to show. I wouldnt think it was calcium deficiency so soon, but im just gonna see how it develops and if it gets worse then ill get some cal-mag. I thought the garden lime i added would provide enough calcium/magnesium. So we will see! Hope you enjoy my grow
^ Just a couple of group shots. The ULH in the front right corner is the one that has been topped at the 5th node
^ My mutated AKR and the topped ULH
^ some rust spots appearing on a couple of the ULH. This could either be calcium deficiency or from heat stress. It may be damage from when i had both lights on, which has only just started to show. I wouldnt think it was calcium deficiency so soon, but im just gonna see how it develops and if it gets worse then ill get some cal-mag. I thought the garden lime i added would provide enough calcium/magnesium. So we will see! Hope you enjoy my grow
lowblower
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3 weeks today
i think they are growing really well, but the rust spots have got a bit more pronounced (ok ill say it, worse) but like i said before i think its just heat stress showing up from when i had both lights on, the new growth looks good. I was also wondering if its the baby bio nutes i used for veg feed. Even tho i fed at 1/6th strength, i just dont think its a good enough quality feed, ive had it for years too, so its prob just pure acid by now. Gonna get good organic veg nutes for next grow im not using this one any more.
this is the topped ultra lemon haze, as you can see the top two shoots are growing out fast 
my new temp probe is showing 30oC, which i believe is the top end of the healthy range :/ a couple of the leafs beside where i stuck some wire into the soil have drooped, so i might have peirced a root or something.
my other ULH, she is growing very nicely. All of my plants are getting bigger by the day so im really happy. The only thing im concerned about is heat stress and nute burn. Im gonna stop feeding them the baby bio now, just water them and then start the dutch pro autoflower nutes at 1/8th strength
the mutant AKR. I will say no more.
water info. I think its purified by RO, but its shop bought. Its got pretty low values compared to alot of others so im only using this especially.
Hope you enjoy!
i think they are growing really well, but the rust spots have got a bit more pronounced (ok ill say it, worse) but like i said before i think its just heat stress showing up from when i had both lights on, the new growth looks good. I was also wondering if its the baby bio nutes i used for veg feed. Even tho i fed at 1/6th strength, i just dont think its a good enough quality feed, ive had it for years too, so its prob just pure acid by now. Gonna get good organic veg nutes for next grow im not using this one any more. this is the topped ultra lemon haze, as you can see the top two shoots are growing out fast my new temp probe is showing 30oC, which i believe is the top end of the healthy range :/ a couple of the leafs beside where i stuck some wire into the soil have drooped, so i might have peirced a root or something. my other ULH, she is growing very nicely. All of my plants are getting bigger by the day so im really happy. The only thing im concerned about is heat stress and nute burn. Im gonna stop feeding them the baby bio now, just water them and then start the dutch pro autoflower nutes at 1/8th strengththe mutant AKR. I will say no more.water info. I think its purified by RO, but its shop bought. Its got pretty low values compared to alot of others so im only using this especially.Hope you enjoy!
lowblower
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ok so ive come to the realisation that my Afghan kush ryder is not a mutant, its fucked because of early damage due to heat stress. In fact all the 'rust spots' are from heat stress. Im gonna have to complete this grow on 250w now 
a real shame and sorry to anyone who checked in because of the promise of a 500w grow. Either way, i think this strain is gonna produce some top quality buds, as long as it stays not higher than 30oC in there. So be sure to check it out in 6 weeks of sure. After this grow im gonna try mod my reflector into an air coooled reflector. Ill need a metal cutting circular saw and create a 4" ducting and fan system and close off the bottom with some kind of glass casing. Either that or sell the one i got now and buy a brand new air cooled HPS lamp/reflector. Havent really got any moeny for the second option so i guess ill try my hand at some more dodgy DIY lol
Edit - that didnt make sense lol if i sell the reflector i got now ill obviously have enough money to contribute towards a brand new air colled reflector so thats what im gonna do, and id advise anyone who is growing with a 250w cfl or higher power light in a closet space to invest in the same. Coz i dont have a cluse how im gonna get the temps down in there
a real shame and sorry to anyone who checked in because of the promise of a 500w grow. Either way, i think this strain is gonna produce some top quality buds, as long as it stays not higher than 30oC in there. So be sure to check it out in 6 weeks of sure. After this grow im gonna try mod my reflector into an air coooled reflector. Ill need a metal cutting circular saw and create a 4" ducting and fan system and close off the bottom with some kind of glass casing. Either that or sell the one i got now and buy a brand new air cooled HPS lamp/reflector. Havent really got any moeny for the second option so i guess ill try my hand at some more dodgy DIY lolEdit -
that didnt make sense lol if i sell the reflector i got now ill obviously have enough money to contribute towards a brand new air colled reflector so thats what im gonna do, and id advise anyone who is growing with a 250w cfl or higher power light in a closet space to invest in the same. Coz i dont have a cluse how im gonna get the temps down in there 
lowblower
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just moved the reflector up and had to move a few things round my growroom. Pretty depressing doing all this again lol i didnt think id have to buy any more hardware, but i think im gonna need an air cooled reflector. I presumed the cfl's would be fine because ive got ventilation but the ventilation really needs to be going to/from outdoors not my room lol its still way too hot. Even after moving the lights up another foot, the temp probe is reading even higher than before at 32oC so i wont be surprised if they get alot more heat damage before they start to flower. I think the reflector is so wide that the heat has problem gettin up and round it, which i didnt think would happen. It has these vents in the side which are advertised as 'allowing the heat from the reflector to rise up through the hood' but its a load of bullshit because when i place my hand above one of the vents its cool like shade, but underneathh the reflector is crazily warm. Well, this is only my second grow, so its not surprising ive come to another obstacle. Its just ive spent sooooo much money on the shit i got and it just dont work together think i might do a seed run straight after this and then just sell all my shit and get a completely new set up in a tent by my window, instead of in my cupboard which is on the other side of the room to the window.
I hope this helps anyone else planning on making their own set up! Ill update with pics on friday morning, so hopefully they will still be healthy
think i might do a seed run straight after this and then just sell all my shit and get a completely new set up in a tent by my window, instead of in my cupboard which is on the other side of the room to the window.I hope this helps anyone else planning on making their own set up! Ill update with pics on friday morning, so hopefully they will still be healthy
lowblower
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Yeah i know what you mean, there are some unstable phenos here and there, but i do think this time it was my fault. Ive seen these pics of some heat stressed seedlings where the leaves went all bubbly and convulted and kind growing into a crescent (if that makes any sense lol basically its was jus like the pic of my AKR)
lowblower
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23 days
Left and top = regular ULH autos
right = topped ULH
Bottom = heat stunted (and possible partly mutated) AKR auto
They seem to have grown like 2 inches since i moved the reflector up yesterday so im happy. There is alot of signs of heat stress showing still, though. My temp probe has reached around 32oC i think yesterday or something, so they are doing very well considering the circumstances. What i am planning on doing, is selling both my 250w cfl's and buying two 125w cfl's to go in the double reflector. So my total wattage would be 250watts, but it will be shared over a wider distance, and it will refelcted with maximum efficiency, so light will be increased, and temperature will be dispersed. I think i was being greedy wanting a 500w grow, its just not possible for me and my situation right now, so im gonna stick to 250w growing now. The plants are growing really well so i think 250w is enough for me and what i wanna accomplish
Left and top = regular ULH autos
right = topped ULH
Bottom = heat stunted (and possible partly mutated) AKR auto
They seem to have grown like 2 inches since i moved the reflector up yesterday so im happy. There is alot of signs of heat stress showing still, though. My temp probe has reached around 32oC i think yesterday or something, so they are doing very well considering the circumstances. What i am planning on doing, is selling both my 250w cfl's and buying two 125w cfl's to go in the double reflector. So my total wattage would be 250watts, but it will be shared over a wider distance, and it will refelcted with maximum efficiency, so light will be increased, and temperature will be dispersed. I think i was being greedy wanting a 500w grow, its just not possible for me and my situation right now, so im gonna stick to 250w growing now. The plants are growing really well so i think 250w is enough for me and what i wanna accomplish
longshot8541
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Subbed and following along. I have two ULH going right now, but I've been running them with my photo plants. I threw them into flower as seedlings and they've been budding for 8 days. I read that the ULH won't flower under 20/4 or even 18/6, but you said you've grown them before and they auto'd for you?... Also, since you've grown it before, could you give me a smoke report on it?
lowblower
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Both of my ULH flowered under 20/4 last time. I finished them on 18/6 only because i was running out of time and thought they might finish quicker :/
Heres some pics:
was very frosty, the bud smelled like grapefruit, but my friends said the taste was not strong enough because they smoke with tobacco. In my iolite vapourizer, it tasted like grapefruit. The high was very sativa and energetic and lots of smiles and laughing. I didnt grow it to its full potential because of different environmental stresses, and only under 250w cfl. I was hoping to grow them this time under 500w cfl but its too hot in there so ive had to go back to 250w. Last time i had about 4 plants per pot 6 gallon garden pot lol this time ive got one plant in each 3 gal smart pot, plus im using soil bacteria plus a few other new nutes. So shold be interesting still. I hope you enjoy the grow
lowblower
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28 days
- the topped ULH has grown out very fast and has 4 main colas (i topped at the 5th node at week 3) the other plants have just one cola under the light
- Ive started using a new product 'myco madness' from humbolt nutrients, which add beneficial soil bacteria for healthy roots - ill be feeding the bacteria with my 'honey es' mollases, also from humboldt nutrients
- No pistils yet but smelling very funky. Im expecting pistils to show from now till next monday as they have now entered the 4th week of growth
- I have had to reduce the photoperiod to 16.5/7.5 because the noise of wind from the fans is loud late at night - this is a VERY stealth grow - must be careful in this house
- I have cut all of the side branches of the 1st main node on all plants, because watering them was a nightmare and all the leaves would sit on the soil and get all filthy. Its alot easier now. I think the girls are developed enough to not get stunted from this, as they are literally the lowest side branches and wouldnt harvest sod all anyway.
^ The mycomadness and its contents
^ i think its safe to say already that the topped ULH is gonna harvest more buds. There is way more light surface area to those 4 main colas The girls are looking a little sorry for themselves as they have just been watered, but they perk up within minutes of going back under the light.
- the topped ULH has grown out very fast and has 4 main colas (i topped at the 5th node at week 3) the other plants have just one cola under the light
- Ive started using a new product 'myco madness' from humbolt nutrients, which add beneficial soil bacteria for healthy roots - ill be feeding the bacteria with my 'honey es' mollases, also from humboldt nutrients
- No pistils yet but smelling very funky. Im expecting pistils to show from now till next monday as they have now entered the 4th week of growth
- I have had to reduce the photoperiod to 16.5/7.5 because the noise of wind from the fans is loud late at night - this is a VERY stealth grow - must be careful in this house
- I have cut all of the side branches of the 1st main node on all plants, because watering them was a nightmare and all the leaves would sit on the soil and get all filthy. Its alot easier now. I think the girls are developed enough to not get stunted from this, as they are literally the lowest side branches and wouldnt harvest sod all anyway.
^ The mycomadness and its contents
^ i think its safe to say already that the topped ULH is gonna harvest more buds. There is way more light surface area to those 4 main colas
The girls are looking a little sorry for themselves as they have just been watered, but they perk up within minutes of going back under the light.
lowblower
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I THINK THIS THREAD DESERVES TO BE RENAMED AS ONLY HALF THE TITLE IS TRUE, AND I DONT WANT SOME PEOPLE TO WASTE THEIR TIME READING THROUGH TO FIND A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SETUP TO THE ONE PROMISED!!! So sorry, but im moving the thread. Ill post the URL underneath here as soon as ive set the new one up. Thanks for following, see you on the other side 
AS ONLY HALF THE TITLE IS TRUE, AND I DONT WANT SOME PEOPLE TO WASTE THEIR TIME READING THROUGH TO FIND A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SETUP TO THE ONE PROMISED!!! So sorry, but im moving the thread. Ill post the URL underneath here as soon as ive set the new one up. Thanks for following, see you on the other side
lowblower
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https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/559786-auto-250w-cfl-cupboard-grow.html#post7952201
Follow this link to see the rest of my grow. Thanks for following this next thread will be alot less confusing (unless i have to make even more changs 
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Follow this link to see the rest of my grow. Thanks for following
this next thread will be alot less confusing (unless i have to make even more changs )