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Johnnygrows420

Johnnygrows420

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20151217_221528.jpg 20151217_221533.jpg 20151217_221533.jpg View attachment 3566821 20151217_221533.jpg View attachment 3566821 This is my first shot growing autos. I have a Super Skunk and a U.K Cheese I started them in 5 Gallon buckets with Roots Organic Emerald Mountain. I'm 100% sure that soil came with fungus knats cause I found them on day 2. I'm also growing in a 3x3x5 1/2 tent which I hate it's 10 times harder regulating Rh which has not went above 50 since day one usually around 38 40%. I'm using a 2 ft 8 tube T5HO with a 14 watt 225 chip led red and blue. My ph has been fucked on run off my ppm fucked on run off I've had nothing but issues with these two plants and yet they still grow like mad. I've always read stress will fuck an auto over quick but not these 2. The broke ground on Dec 4 have only been watered twice cause the roots organic in my opinion has shit drainage so I'll never be using organic soils again so I have complete control over nutes from the gate. I also have a 150 watt hps, would it be better for flower over the t5? They both have 16000 lumens or should I drop my t5 vertical and use them both? Any opinions or advice would be appreciated.
 
My ph has been fucked on run off my ppm fucked on run off I've had nothing but issues with these two plants and yet they still grow like mad. I've always read stress will fuck an auto over quick but not these 2.

Why do you say you have issues with these plants when they are growing like mad?
 
Keep doing what you are doing. It's working. I have never checked my ph because my plants grow fine with what I'm doing. Don't over think it. The directions on the bottles don't know what you are growing.

They look great. More light the better. Autos have a short life.
 
exactly what HLG said, keep doing what your doing, ive never ever checked my ph, of water going in or my run-off, never had issues,

i do say that 14w 225 LED pannel, is actually really shit, no offence, i bought the same when i started my plants, it was working fine up untill around the 1st or 2nd week of veg, and just doesnt cut it, i switched up to a 200w dual spectrum CFL, with 3x23w 2700k household cfl just to cover a few darker spots
 
Your plants look good and from the looks of things what your doing is fine. Dont worry too much about your ppm or ph coming out unless its higher than input or effecting your plants in a crazy manner. With the grow space you have, i would run a 400w hps. Will create your humidity via moisture evap from soil, but your soil could be your issue.... with your feeds are you compensating for nutes premixed in this particular soil?? Fungus gnats love rich healthy soil...
 
I've only fed them 1/4 top of micro so far and more less it was just an experiment. That Roots Organic soil stays hot for like 3 to 4 weeks so can't really use nutes till then. Which is why I bought organic this time but I don't like it I don't like anything having control over my plants but me im selfish like that...lol I've been growing quite a long time but I went from a 10x10 room with two 1000 watt hps to this pathetic set up. I would have loved to use a 400 but unfortunately I don't have anywhere to exhaust to...it has to go back into the room and I cracked a window to get fresh air.....I have a carbon scrubber and inline booster fan that is rated 343 cfm. I'm basically doing this because I just have to have something growing or my world seems off its axis.
 
ok but again that led panel isnt getting you through flowering, i have it aswell but i dont use it, it started me off ok though, till my plant was a bit bigger than your plant in the picture, then it was no use really so i dont think theres any need for it to be plugged in for ya bro
 
I already threw it in the garbage.....I'm just gunna wait till they start to flower then add the 150 hps....between the 150 and the t5 that's 32,000 lumens that should be plenty enough to flower 2 autos. And when I'm done with these is straight back to the G.G#4. It's funny I've grown full bedrooms full of plants and have done so for most of my life I'm 42 so I have a lot of knowledge but these autos have me baffled. That's the beautiful thing about this plant, you can always learn something new the information just never ends. Have you grown autos or do you? And if so from what I've read you can't do anything but LET them is this correct? Can you at least pinch the big suckered of them?
 
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I've only fed them 1/4 top of micro so far and more less it was just an experiment. That Roots Organic soil stays hot for like 3 to 4 weeks so can't really use nutes till then. Which is why I bought organic this time but I don't like it I don't like anything having control over my plants but me im selfish like that...lol I've been growing quite a long time but I went from a 10x10 room with two 1000 watt hps to this pathetic set up. I would have loved to use a 400 but unfortunately I don't have anywhere to exhaust to...it has to go back into the room and I cracked a window to get fresh air.....I have a carbon scrubber and inline booster fan that is rated 343 cfm. I'm basically doing this because I just have to have something growing or my world seems off its axis.
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Stop feeding them dude. If the Roots O has nutrition for 3-4 weeks and autos are nutrient sensitive, youll be good for double that. If your in an organic medium, then feed the microbes, not the plant. Make AACT (not nutritive AACT), but rather water and molasses with a microbe source like EWC.

Organic soils naturally fluctuate pH, so dont worry about any of that shit. Once you start adding fertilizers, then you just fucked up and now yes, you'll have some pH problems and lockouts.
 
And they say autos are so easy to grow...personally I think they are more of a challenge.The only thing easy about them is the light cycle.They are much more sensitive to grower mistakes.Or at least seem to be.
 
AMEN to that.....they are too fuckin sensitive....you would think they would be more stable and hearty givin the rough terrain and climate they come from.
 
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AMEN to that.....they are too fuckin sensitive....you would think they would be more stable and hearty givin the rough terrain and climate they come from.
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They can be stable and hearty...very vigorous depending on what kind of stock you are working with...but I can tell you mistakes in veg will cost you in flower to a greater degree than photo plants.
 
HSO UK CHEESE ....ILGM Super Skunk..... the cheese was unaffected by the quarter teaspoon dose of micro it continues to grow massively everyday the Super Skunk hasn't been growing as fast but still looks very healthy I wouldn't do this to a photo plants but do you think if I lifted my light a couple more inches to make them stretch that would help any? Next time i water I'm going to straight water only I'm a flush the hell out of that soil
 
Let me ask you this I know you can't training autoflower you can only LST them to a certain degree but can you pinch big sucker leaves off or should you just put them in the best you can...cause the Cheese has very short node spacing and believe it would be a big harvester if you could remove a couple sucker leaves here and there
 

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Looking at your pics I dont see any leaf curl,indicas will tell you quick if youre too intense...experiment with your lighting,when you see the leaf edges start to curl raise it up a bit.Watch the nutes,in organic amended soil you will probably be fine until flower and then keep your ppms under 1000,and monitor for tip burn or clawing.It will hit a growth spurt around the 3rd week or so.Leave the leaves alone lst the lateral branches down so the plant opens up and expose those leaves to light.Start slow with the nutrients...lol
 
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You dont want to go crazy with supercropping or topping every node but ive fimmed some autos as an experiment and had success,but you really need a fast vigorous strain for something like that or it might end up costing you.
 
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