Autofem Led Grow

iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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tekdc911 said:
how close are you running your panels ?
and do you have a fan blowing on the plants ? a fan blowing on the plants is kinda required for proper stem development ........ the lower dead leaves could be from lack of air movement ..... also the leaves are showing some heat stress ...... i believe im running the same or close to it panels just from what youve said about it .......
and how do you get fresh air in your box ... i noticed you said your not running extraction fans
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I did mention ghetto aha.
No fans at all, not even a little draft, really it's me who spent abit of money, on getting everything(my friend doesn't really want to spend any money even though I beg him, he'll be regretting it when I'm giving him his cut he best not be hoping for alot lol
The lights where just a few inches away from the plant about 4-7 now I'd say there atleast a foot away, what are the symptoms for heat stress? Also does not having a fan/wind/air affect the plant while in flower?
 
tekdc911

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yes a fan is required for stem and branch development as well as help circulation to prevent mold and bud rot .....
a 5-10 buck desk fans is all thats needed ...... i run my 135 w led's at 18" or so if its the 3 watt diodes i would pick them up some ........ the seratted edges of the leaves curling up is telling me they are stressed by either heat or light intensity ( sunburn so to speak ) led's are different critters compared to cfl's you can actually get them too close and the blue diodes are usually the ones that burn em .... also picking the panel up will help with the colors blending and covering more area not just blue in one spot and red in another
 
Ace Yonder

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Lookin good man, wish I had more advice but you're a bit farther along with your autos than I am, and most of my photo know how doesn't really flip over, but they are lookin very nice, even the burned one. As tek said tho, a fan is pretty important, especially later in flower and if the humidity gets high. You don't even need it blowing directly on them, in fact that can cause wind burn, but just having air circulating is very important for numerous factors, if you can get even like a cheap desk fan it will make a world of difference.
 
iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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I see, will defo have to get a fan in there, led panels are abit further away so got nothing to worry bout hopefully it should calm any stress down.
This is my 1st grow, learning as I go, along the way, pondering in the world of growing, maybe one day I will have what it takes to be a jungle masta :p
 
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DogEatWeedWorld

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12-18" is what id keep the LEDs at.

Not concerned about the smell?

With the led you have I'm not sure you'll get a lot of lower bud development. maybe you could run one of the LEDs vertically?
 
iiTzHaroon

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Hmm yeah I'm thinking this whole grow will have been wasted because the buds arnt really producing, the smell is nothing I gota worry bout as it's in my mates, the plant does have a very fruity smell, and I get very sticky just ttouching it
 
nomofatum

nomofatum

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DogEatWeedWorld said:
12-18" is what id keep the LEDs at.

Not concerned about the smell?

With the led you have I'm not sure you'll get a lot of lower bud development. maybe you could run one of the LEDs vertically?
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I'm assuming the panel he is running on is based on 1w or 3w or at most 5w leds. 12-18" is way further than they need to be away from any of these LEDs. I ran 3w Epistars for my Auto on DIY boards. You can get to within 3-4" with 3w, 1-2" with 1w, and 5-6" with 5w Epistar LEDs assuming they don't cram them in crazy tight to each other. 12-18" is for a very intense single source of light, like a HID, not a bunch of smaller lights. One of the main advantages to LEDs is their ability to get smaller/weaker without getting less efficient like bulbs do.
 
iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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nomofatum said:
I'm assuming the panel he is running on is based on 1w or 3w or at most 5w leds. 12-18" is way further than they need to be away from any of these LEDs. I ran 3w Epistars for my Auto on DIY boards. You can get to within 3-4" with 3w, 1-2" with 1w, and 5-6" with 5w Epistar LEDs assuming they don't cram them in crazy tight to each other. 12-18" is for a very intense single source of light, like a HID, not a bunch of smaller lights. One of the main advantages to LEDs is their ability to get smaller/weaker without getting less efficient like bulbs do.
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Hi have no idea how many W the diodes are, iv asked the seller I really don't think they even know here are some pics of the actual panel Screenshot_2015-02-15-18-31-39.png
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iiTzHaroon

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Can't wait to check on them, however I really don't think bud will have changed much, since the leds aren't strong enough and I'm skint broke, dyu think it would be better to add some Cfls or another Led panel ??
I would recommend Cream of the crop to all. Very good plants, you will not even believe what kind of Shit I put the K.O through, literally hell!.
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K.O at around 2weeks.

DSC_0097.jpg it remained like this for a real long time so much that I was about to give up Onit, i couldn't see much growth and the hulk inside me took over jke.. . i kept pulling it out to have a peek at the roots, and always ended up damaging them.
 
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nomofatum

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iiTzHaroon said:
Hi have no idea how many W the diodes are, iv asked the seller I really don't think they even know here are some pics of the actual panel View attachment 3351906
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Those are SMD chips, 0.5w or less each (need closeup of chip to be sure of exact model, but .2-.5w most likely.) , but packed together fairly tightly. I'm guessing you can get to within 3" of them without stunting. I have 100w (50 x 3w chips) panels and you can get to within about 4" before it stunts the plant.

Those SMD chips are actually weak enough that the plant can touch them like a florescent bulb, but with them packed that tightly together that likely won't be the case.


Edit: after looking back at the specs those chips are running on less than .1w each, so you can get really close, likely even touch it.
 
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iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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nomofatum said:
Those are SMD chips, 0.5w or less each (need closeup of chip to be sure of exact model, but .2-.5w most likely.) , but packed together fairly tightly. I'm guessing you can get to within 3" of them without stunting. I have 100w (50 x 3w chips) panels and you can get to within about 4" before it stunts the plant.

Those SMD chips are actually weak enough that the plant can touch them like a florescent bulb, but with them packed that tightly together that likely won't be the case.


Edit: after looking back at the specs those chips are running on less than .1w each, so you can get really close, likely even touch it.
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So basically the Chinese have ripped me off lol
 
nomofatum

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iiTzHaroon said:
So basically the Chinese have ripped me off lol
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Guess that depends on how much you paid. Smaller LEDs are fine, just means the light is already distributed further apart so you can put it closer. Some SMD chips get pretty efficient, would have to figure out exactly what you have to know for sure.
 
iiTzHaroon

iiTzHaroon

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nomofatum said:
Guess that depends on how much you paid. Smaller LEDs are fine, just means the light is already distributed further apart so you can put it closer. Some SMD chips get pretty efficient, would have to figure out exactly what you have to know for sure.
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I paid £40 for one, 2nd I dint pay anything
 
iiTzHaroon

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I know it's not anything big but it's my first try and pretty cheap ghetto grow lol, thank god atleast here at Sheffield our water is amazin.

There veg growth was really good imho: next time will have to get some cfl bulbs in der especially at flowering and obvz will need a fan blowing around, I do feel sorry for these plants they must be suffocating like hell in that room lol.
 
iiTzHaroon

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Guys what do you think about an e40 fitting 300w dual spectrum cfl? Will it be any good or better than the shit leds I have
 
rastafaaari

rastafaaari

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iiTzHaroon said:
The Cash Crop - it has so many heads super bushy!
Abit wimpy and stressy but she should perk back up.
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Remove all burned leafes, I wouldn`t recommend buying the 300W cfl. Better use your panel for side illumination und by a decent LED-Panel, if you don`t wanna spend alot, might have a look at Topled.(www.topledgrowlight.com/)
 
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