Autos... 50g a week!

I am a man with a plan My plan is to plant 1 auto every week. Soo by the time the first auto is ready for harvest id hav an 8 auto cycle. The plan is to hav a 120cm (W) & (H) x 60cm (D) tent with 2x 125w Giant CFLs (1x 64k & 1x 27k) with 2x 135w 55k CFLs. On the right of the tent ill hav the 125w 64k (covering the first 4 autos) In the middle ill hav the 2x 135w 55k (covering 2 autos) On the left ill hav the 125w 27k (covering 2 autos) The plants move 1 place to the left each week. Soo for the life of 1 auto, she would spend 4 weeks under 64k then 2 weeks under 55k & 2 weeks under 27k. Lights on 18/6 the whole time If your growing an auto with 50g+ yeild then each full cycle (8 weeks) You total 400g+. Thats 15oz every 2 months. Thats bringing in £2200 in 8 weeks Why does everyone i speak to say auto r a waste of time? It seems like easy money to me If you were to sell it Whats your POs on this method?

I don't think you will get 50g's an auto under that lighting.

how about you complete step 1 before you get ahead of yourself.

Any potential commercial set up that begins with a plan based around autos is a failure from the start imo. Unless maybe there is a very nice outdoor spot away from prying eyes. But indoors you are using 6 hours more electric than you need every day for 8 weeks (autos take about 10 weeks - get a 8 week regular strain instead and veg for 2 weeks). There are extrapolations in your plan based around assumptions; assumptions which from personal experience will prove to be false. This will cause all the rest of your extrapolations to fail and everything to fall short of your extremely liberal estimations. A point made more succinctly by a previous poster in this thread. The only way you will get 50g+ from autos is under HID = massive cost increase right off the bat.

I like the energy of your idea. But feel you shouldn't turn it into a "regular" vs "autos" battle. What's the point of that? Other than to make people likely to slate you personally, rather than critiquing your idea. *passes the bong*

Picked up my first 400w hps for $40 for cl, wish I would have looked there before I dumped cash on the LEDs and cfl bulbs

A successful on-going perpetual grow is required to meet your goals. HINT -- as others have hinted, 50 gs./plant cured is not likely.
So set your goal at 2 plants/week. That's exactly what I did.

BigSteve.

Lol.

I struggled to pull 60g on each of my 4 autos that I grew under 400w.

The amount of cfl wattage you're running you should have just got a 400w hps and done everything under it.


More lumens and greater penetration.

You better hope your autos don't exceed 12" tall otherwise your lighting isn't going to be powerful enough to reach the whole way down the plants.

A guy I knew used 1x125w red and a 250w red cfl. He took clones that were 3" tall and flowered them. (Non autos)

6 under the 125w for 4-6weeks in a mini SOG.

Then under the 250w until finished. Usually a further 6weeks. He averaged about 3oz every harvest which was approx every 6weeks.



J

No.1 You need the right auto.
No.2 Not enough light.
No.3 Too small of an area.
No.4 You'll need to train your plants.
No.5 Go hydro.

I'm averaging 6 zips per plant from the Auto's I use in my setup.
Currently running 12 plants in a 4x8 tent. 4-600 watt HID's.

Last run was 14 plants.
Pulled over 5 DRY pounds.
Under 90 days from seed to harvest.
4x8 Tent.
1.07 GPW. (not counting shit I gave away to trimmers)
That grow was to prove auto's commercially viable.

Check my sig

I'll say this about the whole electricity debate.
If you run autos 18/6 for 90 days - That is the same amount of electricity as 24/0 for 30 days, and 12/12 for 60.
In order to keep up with auto's in veg you'd need 24/0 lighting.
Autos veg FAR MORE VIGOROUSLY than photo plants.
You can get a GOOD auto up to 30" tall from seed in 30 days.
I haven't seen that in any photoperiod plants.
Auto's also flower more vigorously and finish faster than photoperiod plants due to the longer light cycle during flowering.

(this is NOT all auto's. Auto's are new, and there are a ton of SHIT auto's out there. Every seed company wants in on it so the genetics suck)

There are documented 13-14 ounce 90 day auto grows.
Show me a photoperiod that can pull 14 ounces in under 90 days from seed and we'll have the Auto vs Photo debate.

Are there rules? I'm pretty sure I could pull 14oz from 12 plants sea of green, 30 days veg then 60 days flower. Reckon I could pull that under 600w, certainly under 1000w. I'm not going to try, as the whole commercial side of it is something I am fundamentally against. But you make 14oz in 90 days sound difficult (which I don't think it is).

Bigby said:

Are there rules? I'm pretty sure I could pull 14oz from 12 plants sea of green, 30 days veg then 60 days flower. Reckon I could pull that under 600w, certainly under 1000w. I'm not going to try, as the whole commercial side of it is something I am fundamentally against. But you make 14oz in 90 days sound difficult (which I don't think it is).

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One Plant..... That's the only rule.
Shit just started to sound a whole hell of a lot more difficult, eh?

It's been done with two different auto strains in well documented grows and the results being replicatable.
AutoMazar, and Think Different. Both by Dutch Passion.
Both in bubble buckets under LED lighting...

I prefer Think Different. I like the sativa buzz, but either one is capable of pulling just under a full pound in 90 days (one plant)
if your on top of your hydro game and know how to read your plants.

I'm a little more relaxed. I don't stay on top of my shit constantly and I prefer ScrOG with more plants.
I use nothing but SUPER basic nutrients
GH FloraDuo and Liquid Koolbloom during flower.
(and still AVERAGE 6 zips per plant in 90 days from seed)
This run is nothing but GH FloraNova Bloom all the way through and Liquid Koolbloom during flower.
Two bottles for an entire grow, and I don't anticipate pulling anything less than 6 zones per plant average.

As far as commercial I only meant that it can be grown in large quantities and still be efficient enough to keep costs down for patients.
If you think patients should just get their meds for free then I can't argue with you on that, it just a matter of different opinions.
If I go to the store to buy a bottle of Tylenol, I'm going to pay for it.
I'm actually going to pay MORE for a bottle of Tylenol than I would for an ounce of my own medicine.
The cost breakdown of electricity(it's all in the original log on autoflower.net) came out to $6.30 something cents per ounce. 20 some-odd cents per gram.
To me, that's a commercially viable strain.

As commercially viable as any photoperiod strain, and that's what I was trying to prove.

Taviddude said:

One Plant..... That's the only rule.
Shit just started to sound a whole hell of a lot more difficult, eh?

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I do not believe you have ever pulled 14oz from one auto flowering plant. So the comparison is pointles.

re; 14oz from autos

Taviddude said:

One Plant

It's been done with two different auto strains in well documented grows

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I can't see any grows having done a cursory search. I would therefore argue that they are not 'well documented'. I will require evidence from 5 grows for me to believe the validity of your point.

yea.....im not totally sure whats going on here but. dont waste your time with cfls, im not saying they are a waste of time but, you will not get 50 grams a week as a beginner with them thats for sure, buy a 400 or even a 600watt hps then we will talk biz.

Bigby said:

I do not believe you have ever pulled 14oz from one auto flowering plant. So the comparison is pointles.

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i have pulled 3oz and even 4oz from 1 auto flower plant, it was easy ryder (akx lowryder2) hang on one sec i think i have some pics of them, but sureley 14 oz is a little ridiculous IMO....im hard pressed to grow 14 oz plants indoor with photo-periods, with autos i really dont think its even possible...i dont really care how much light you have the plant simply doesnt have enough TIME to produce those types of stems and branches needed for a LB plant in 60 days from seed to harvest, cause thats what autoflower is...if it is documented i personally would enjoy seeing it, i am a fan of autos...but 14 oz?...id like to see that.
ok after re reading this thread im sort of confused....90 days for an autoflower???....autos flowers should be ready in under 70 days MAX IMO it should be 60...isnt that what an auto is??...i would never grow an auto that took 90 days, fuck ill just get a regular mj plant. i can finish them in 90 days EZ...im a proponent of autos but...autos that take 90days IMO are a waste of time...good luck

I've pulled 3oz from an auto. But there's a hell of a lot of difference between 3oz, or even 4oz and 14! I'm not gonna argue that they can't yield - but the figures offered are extreme (and communicated as common place).

^^^^after re reading this entire thread.....i concur with bigby. gooday

I saw an advert for this strain in SOFT SECRETS

http://www.autofloweringseeds.com/buddha-magnum-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-3818

Biggest producing autoflower.

Haven't researched it though so I don't know if 14oz is possible from it.



J

I agree with Tav,

I've seen his grows. And autos have been mine for more than two years.... You won't get that yield dude

Do you have any pictures of the autos you have that are putting out the "6 ounces" per plant bro?? Would love 2 see um... what's the average height of the autos produicing this? More info please.. thanks.

yea i personally even doubt 6 to 8 oz plants, i mean i was able to get 3 and 4 and they were large plants with alot of light on them 12k per sq ft actually, i got mostly 2 oz but the best were 3-4max, i just dont see 14 oz or 10 oz possible,maybe if u got really good genes and lucky 10oz but thats it. 14 i just cant see it

Have any of you bothered to look at the grows in my sig?

I ONLY grow auto's.

I pull an AVERAGE of 6 ounces per plant.

I ONLY run Think Different from Dutch Passion.

The information is RIGHT there. 6 ounces per plant is EASY if you have any kind of skillz.

Not to hurt anyones feelings, but just because you can't break a QP with an auto SURE as hell don't mean I can't.


It was a 13 ounce grow. I was wrong.
Here's a little video of the grow. He had no knowledge whatsoever of the strain as he was the first to test the strain publicly.
[video=youtube;afh0kk1-Ivs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afh0kk1-Ivs[/video]

Here's a link to that particular Think Different grow.
https://www.autoflower.net/forums/f5/autoflowering-think-different-dwc-under-l-e-d-4467.html

Here's a link to his AutoMazar grow. 14.5 ounces
https://www.autoflower.net/forums/f5/auto-mazar-dwc-under-l-e-d-2616.html

Here's an AutoBlueberry after losing two of it's main colas due to them bending over and snapping.
Yeah, that's a 5 gallon bucket....
NO WAY THAT'S A HALF POUND IN 80 DAYS! Looks like 1-2 zips right? Yeah, ok........


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