Bagseed Experiment

Seed of Memory

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So my husband has been saving our bagseed for me and I got into basic gardening a couple of years ago. Turns out I'm not too bad at it though I may get a bit over in to it. In September I decided to try my hand at growing our seeds. This plant was germinated on September 5th and planted on the 8th. I germinated 10 seeds, 8 of which sprouted. They were outdoors until it started getting chilly and a slug ate most of my plants. I was left with 2. One of which was a bit deformed but is coming out of it now that it is inside. I purchased a super cheap LED light (we are growing to save money as our budget is stupid tight) and my husband foil wrapped a cardboard box complete with hinge for me. I just re-potted into a 3 gallon setup for one and a 1.5 for the other. They are flourishing now. I am about to order a 450W viparspectra LED panel and some Fox Farm nutrients. I also ordered some feminised seeds from Seedsman. They should be here in a month or so and by then i will have my tent and all for a proper set-up.
 

Seed of Memory

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20190927_094842.jpgThis was my largest one after it first broke soil. I had a stronger one until the slug got it. I caught the bastard in the act but the stem was so weak as a seedling it did not survive.
 

Seed of Memory

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The plants are definitely starting to flourish now. Our largest one has over tripled in size in a matter of a couple of weeks. I mist them at least twice a day with distilled water. They seem to soak it up. I have them on a 24 hour light cycle. Once my timer arrives I will go to 18/6 but for now I want to be sure the lighting is consistent.
 

Mitchician

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Looking good, welcome to Rollitup.
Pity about the slug casualties but hey that's why we do practice runs right? You don't want things like that to happen to seeds you pay good money for, especially when you're on a tight budget! Hey have you ordered the Viparspectra yet?
 

Seed of Memory

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Looking good, welcome to Rollitup.
Pity about the slug casualties but hey that's why we do practice runs right? You don't want things like that to happen to seeds you pay good money for, especially when you're on a tight budget! Hey have you ordered the Viparspectra yet?
Not yet. I'm ordering it Thursday. The cost of everything else is making me wait on it until then. And thank you. I'm learning a lot from the site. The slug about killed me. I had put lids on them and everything. That fat slug fit through the air holes we had melted in. Oh well. It worked out for the best.
 

Seed of Memory

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What are the dimensions of the tent you're getting?
36×20×62. I'd be okay with a 72 or 80 inch tall tent but 62 is sufficient for my needs. 2 or 3 plants at a time is what I'm going for. I have seeds on order that should be here in a month. I want to use my bagseed as an experiment before I start the ones that cost me a pretty penny.
 

Mitchician

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36×20×62. I'd be okay with a 72 or 80 inch tall tent but 62 is sufficient for my needs. 2 or 3 plants at a time is what I'm going for. I have seeds on order that should be here in a month. I want to use my bagseed as an experiment before I start the ones that cost me a pretty penny.
Excellent choice on the tent, I think you'll find that will be the perfect size to start with, for that many plants.
Because each plant will have a floor area of between 12"x20" and 18"x20", you won't need that much height anyway.
Good idea starting with the bagseed grow, I did the same thing, kind of..

I'd reconsider getting that light though, even something like a Mars TS1000 or 2xTS600's would be a better choice, but if you're in the US you should really be supporting local companies like Horticulture Lighting Group (referred to simply as HLG), they sell DIY kits with the absolute best LED technology today for very fair prices. Their lights use the latest and most efficient diodes on the market. They are a great company and everybody on here will tell you the same. If there's any chance of you or your husband wanting to dip your toes into DIY electronics, HLG is the place to start.
Since you're on a tight budget, it may even be feasible for you to just get 1x Mars TS600 to start with, and just do a full grow under that while getting your head around DIY lighting, which will save you so much money in the long run and can become a whole new fun hobby in itself. It's really easy to learn how to make your own lights and feels really good to know you've made something more efficient than others have while spending less money than them. All it costs is the time it takes to absorb the knowledge, which is readily available at www.ledgardener.com. Good luck and have fun :weed:
 

Skuxx

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With bagseed you generally want to have a bunch more plants to select from, since some will grow crappy and some will be males. I hope those 2 end up being beautiful girls for ya.
 

Seed of Memory

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With bagseed you generally want to have a bunch more plants to select from, since some will grow crappy and some will be males. I hope those 2 end up being beautiful girls for ya.
That is my huge fear. That i have put in all this effort to get males. Crossing my fingers. The misshapen one I am surprised has even survived. When it first popped it looked like the first set of leaves was crimped by the seed itself and has been like that since the beginning. It even got spider mites and I treated those. It is doing much better though.
 

Seed of Memory

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Excellent choice on the tent, I think you'll find that will be the perfect size to start with, for that many plants.
Because each plant will have a floor area of between 12"x20" and 18"x20", you won't need that much height anyway.
Good idea starting with the bagseed grow, I did the same thing, kind of..

I'd reconsider getting that light though, even something like a Mars TS1000 or 2xTS600's would be a better choice, but if you're in the US you should really be supporting local companies like Horticulture Lighting Group (referred to simply as HLG), they sell DIY kits with the absolute best LED technology today for very fair prices. Their lights use the latest and most efficient diodes on the market. They are a great company and everybody on here will tell you the same. If there's any chance of you or your husband wanting to dip your toes into DIY electronics, HLG is the place to start.
Since you're on a tight budget, it may even be feasible for you to just get 1x Mars TS600 to start with, and just do a full grow under that while getting your head around DIY lighting, which will save you so much money in the long run and can become a whole new fun hobby in itself. It's really easy to learn how to make your own lights and feels really good to know you've made something more efficient than others have while spending less money than them. All it costs is the time it takes to absorb the knowledge, which is readily available at www.ledgardener.com. Good luck and have fun :weed:
I am in the US and in a very unfriendly state at that. We don't even have medical here but my husband needs it medically. Carpal tunnel pain. Anyway, thanks for the info! I'll look them up. My husband is a genius at DIY so he may get more interested being able to do that. I'm about to post something on this thread I would like an experienced opinion on but have no idea how to tag a person. I hope you may be able to help.
 

Seed of Memory

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20191111_021219.jpg20191111_021154.jpgI recently re-potted my beautiful gals into larger pots from their seedling pint pots. They are not experiencing any transplant shock that is visible but as they were just swapped to much larger pots less than a week ago, I'm worried about the roots already sticking out. This is a 2 gallon pot. My plant is about 8-10 inches tall. Is this normal or should I be concerned about the visible root? The roots I can see sticking out look healthy. They are white, not water-logged, and seem sturdy. Any help is appreciated.
 

Mitchician

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I am in the US and in a very unfriendly state at that. We don't even have medical here but my husband needs it medically. Carpal tunnel pain. Anyway, thanks for the info! I'll look them up. My husband is a genius at DIY so he may get more interested being able to do that. I'm about to post something on this thread I would like an experienced opinion on but have no idea how to tag a person. I hope you may be able to help.
Oh that's great that your husband can DIY, if you want the absolute most light for your money, you want to build your own COB (chip on board) light or something similar. The amount of money you can save on your lighting is really worth it if you build it yourself with the right equipment. An easy midway point would be a kit like this one to start you off...


It costs more than the Viparspectra and uses less watts, but trust me when I say it will outperform it any day of the week, and probably won't be surpassed in terms of value for money any time soon. It will be only just enough to flower out your tent but might not get good coverage all the way to the edges, just know that if you got it though you'd have one of the best lights available in that price range, if not the best.

As for the roots poking out the holes so soon after transplant, that's actually a really good thing, and confirms that it had no transplant shock.
That plant is actually the picture of health.
When the root hits the air they just dry out and self prune, then it will just grow more roots off it further back, like a branch would with foliage if you pinched the growth tip off.
The lack of side branching could be due to being in the seedling pots too long, or it could mean the plant's a bit starved of light, can you tell us what
make and model of LED you have over them now? Maybe post a link?

There's really no need to spray them so often, but if you put a little kelp extract and/or potassium silicate in that foliar water from time to time, the plants will thank you for it, and fungal diseases will hate you for it.
:cool:
 

Seed of Memory

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Oh that's great that your husband can DIY, if you want the absolute most light for your money, you want to build your own COB (chip on board) light or something similar. The amount of money you can save on your lighting is really worth it if you build it yourself with the right equipment. An easy midway point would be a kit like this one to start you off...


It costs more than the Viparspectra and uses less watts, but trust me when I say it will outperform it any day of the week, and probably won't be surpassed in terms of value for money any time soon. It will be only just enough to flower out your tent but might not get good coverage all the way to the edges, just know that if you got it though you'd have one of the best lights available in that price range, if not the best.

As for the roots poking out the holes so soon after transplant, that's actually a really good thing, and confirms that it had no transplant shock.
That plant is actually the picture of health.
When the root hits the air they just dry out and self prune, then it will just grow more roots off it further back, like a branch would with foliage if you pinched the growth tip off.
The lack of side branching could be due to being in the seedling pots too long, or it could mean the plant's a bit starved of light, can you tell us what
make and model of LED you have over them now? Maybe post a link?

There's really no need to spray them so often, but if you put a little kelp extract and/or potassium silicate in that foliar water from time to time, the plants will thank you for it, and fungal diseases will hate you for it.
:cool:
Is it odd I have no idea how to post a link on my cellphone? I know the light is 45W and was literally $16.99 on Amazon. I don't believe it had an open name anywhere on the package. I'm glad to hear another opinion that it looks healthy. I thought so but I'm inexperienced with this. They were in the seedling pots much longer than they should have been but I thought like an amateur. Any plant will have root system growth even if its greenery isn't getting bushier. That was my mistake. I correlated the 2.
 
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