Bagseed Grow...1st attempt

gumbo

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Hey everyone, first post though not new to the forum. I have been trying to learn for a few weeks. My setup to start is a closet grow. I have started with 6 germinated seeds (done paper towel method) under 2 65w fluorex floods. I know a lot of people have busted on these lights but check out the pictures for 2 weeks, I think for seedlings they work ok.
I am on a budget of 200 dollars. I have spent about 80 already. Using a styrofoam cooler has worked REALLY well for light reflection and for keeping a good temp for my seedlings. I recently (3 days ago) added 3 more seedlings. That just means a longer veg time for all of them.
Anyway, my plan is a homemade grow box designed from a 32 gallon rubbermaid trash can. I will use a computer power supply to power 3 x 120mm fans each with 72 cbf per minute flow rate. One into the can at plant level, and 2 out through a charcoal filter designed like the tube one (30 bucks homemade from home depot) as seen on this site. I figure there will be lots of resistance from the filter, hence 2 out, 1 in. In the box I will place a fluro on each side angled down, and a 150w hps flood light at the top of the box. There is about 4 square feet of grow space in the box, and the lumen total for me now approaches 25,000. I think this sounds ok. Any thoughts?

I have miracle grow potting soil and am using distilled water, I "flood" the cups (with holes on bottom) and wait 4 days between watering. The water right now is moist about a half inch below surface. I have not nute/fert yet. I plan on buying some this monday at home depot. Any recommendations of ferts i can find there? The transplant from closet to grow box will take place wednesday once it is all finished.
The weed was good weed, not great, but I figure it was genetically good but grown poorly, hopefully this will turn out ok.
Anyway...here are some low quality pics, my camera sucks. Any thoughts on growth at 2 weeks, recommendations, etc. would be greatly appreciated. I'm a smart guy but don't know much botany.
Thanks,
J
 

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gumbo

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hmmm.
first post and noone to say "hello, welcome fellow pothead...good luck with your grow....those look shitty...hehe."

anyway...
if noone wants to talk, i'll say more about a topic that always gets people talking.
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Discuss.
 

Acesover8

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Welcome! Like he said getting anything green or close to green to come up on your first attempt is pretty good! hehe..

Have fun and blaze it up

Peace aces
 

gumbo

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Hey
here is a few shots of our progress on our 100% stealth grow box. When this is done, I think i will post a how to. It's kind of similar to the rubbermaid tote box grow box, but MUCH more stealthy.
Tonight and tomorrow we will be finishing and transplanting 7 small plants to vedge under 150wHPS and 2 65W fluorex cf.
More pictures to come of this. Comments welcome.
 

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GREENSUNSHINE

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HELLO, Those plants/ seedlings look pretty good for bag-seed (Those wide leaves look like they maybe indica /sativa cross or just indica? :mrgreen: ) and your first time (NOT BAD!!) - I use a stealth grow cabinet. (It works great for a few medium size plants from a strain like LOWRYDER or ORANGE HAZE and AK- CROSSES or any mostly indica strains that are short and have buds the size of my head, & glisten, like it snowing it my house! Good luck with your plants and that stealth set-up. (The fluorex floods worked for me in past grows -but your going too have to get a HPS OR MH , when its time too flower your ladies,your going too need more RED LIGHT SPECTRUM to get the most flower/bud out of the genetics you have.)

GOOD LUCK & PEACE OUT :peace: - GREENSUNSHINE :blsmoke:
 

gumbo

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thanks guys,
Yeah we have a 150W hps on the way.
So with 130w of cf putting out 8000 lumens total and a 150w hps putting out 13,000 lumens. Thats 21000.
We should be good right?

More pictures to come tonight of the growbox rather finished. The plan is to be able to water the plants from outside the growbox using 1/4"tubing, a 120mm fan into a carbon filter outtake, a 120 fan intake at plant level, and a nice lexan window to view everything. Most will be one tonight.
Stay tuned.
It's looking great.

Thanks for the replies.
Gumbo.
 

gumbo

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Ok. Admins I understand this might be moved to a new forum after these posts.
Do as you must.

Here is the making of my stealth grow box, chronologically. I'll do my best to explain. Again this is a rubbermaid 45 gallon trash can, two 65 w fluorex bulbs and a 150 watt hps.
Custom modded box.
Check it out.

The first few pics here are setup, showing the basic. We have cut out a spot for a window to see the plants, and used lexan as window material. everything is sealed airtight using duct tape. Mucho duct tape.

Also is a computer power supply. This is used to power 2 fans, 120mm each, one input one out.

You can see a few shots of in the box, at this point there are no lights on. The filter is a replacement hepa filter, with carbon odor eliminator, sealed to a 240mmx90 mm to 120mm metal duct. This is the outtake. Only clean air coming out, no odor.
 

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gumbo

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here is a couple closeups of the inside, as well as a closeup of my REFLECTOR. AKA, garbage can lid. Pretty huge. This thing can tan you with a candle.
 

gumbo

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These are some overhead shots of my plants. I started germination on October 11. They were planted on the 15th. That makes this......day....damn math....hmmm.......17?

Mostly Indica is what I feel like. BBBAAAGGGSEEEDDDD.
Actually im pretty high off its/their mothers right now.

The BEST PART about this system is that you can water it from the outside (notice 1/4" tubing to each plant). Those tubes then run all to one exit point which is air tight. You can use a turkey baster to pour water in to each of the 7 tubes. (and measure the amt perfectly)

Also in these is some shots of the whole shabang from the outside. It was meant to have 2 sides that arent stealth and two that are. You'll see why in a sec.
 

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gumbo

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One random shot, and finally the way it looks now behind the bar.
Only myself and my roomate are allowed behind the bar. Nobody is even within 10 feet of it, and if they are, this is what they see.
It is silent, emits no light (when the window is "closed")
Is air tight, (full outflow from carbon filter), the lights are on a pulley system and can be raised/lowered easily, and the bottom is drainable.

Took 2 full nights of work, but I like it.

Comments please, if there is any interest i can post exactly how I made it, and what tools you need.

The whole thing was purchased entirely from home depot.

Total cost (with lights) - 340 dollars.
Without lights - 140.
 

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wvguy

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thats pretty stealthy id say. when i did my rubbermaid tote i used 2 100 watt hps flood lights from depot they were like 80 bucks a piece. the little box has worked well for me so far. i will warn you that growing weed is super addictiv and you wont be able to stop there. i will take pics of my grow box and new room this weekend for all to see!
 

gumbo

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hey, with those 100w lights were you growing bagseed?
If so, what was your average yield, light schedule, etc.

Thanks for the reply.
 

gumbo

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Just posting some updated pictures. Again started around 10/15
Stealth box. Just had my roomates mother come stay for the weekend in the guest room, and she never noticed a thing.
1 stealth evasion down.

Noticing some discoloration on the leaves.
Advice?
I would assume its an acidic pH or just some stress from the recent repotting.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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wvguy

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i was using seeds from a good bag of mids. seeing if could actually grow any before i spent money on some seeds. we did two flowerings in the box itself and got almost 3/4 pound each time. since then we move them to the big room after they've been sexed. i did flos at 18/6 and when hps was used did 24/4 and ran fan all the time. gets real warm will need to cool reflectors for hps have fan hooked up to blow accross reflector. and those little yellow leave always die on mine then new ones grow at base of node, not sure if this is supposed to happen but mune always do.
 

gumbo

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thanks, but why the discrepancy with fluoros and hps, why 18/6 for fluros and 20/4 for hps.

the fan is on the reflectors pretty much already.
And buddy, if i get 3/4 of a pound from this....i think i will literally shit myself.
 

wvguy

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i would hang the flos in the middle of the plants so that they are right in the leaves when they got real bushy just grow them right and use jacks classic ferts they work wonder at half dose. what kind of seeds are they from
 

gumbo

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I'd love to have the fluoro in the middle but its a flood. i am now out of cash to spend on this project, so i have to deal with fluoro being a little higher than i'd like so i can have both lights on at once.

Anyway, here are some picks taken through the window of my stealth grow can. Taken today, now I am at day 24.

I have only a few more inches of grow space before i have to start flowering.
At around 13 inches i have to start flowering so i can get to about 20" or so with colas (may have to top).
 
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