Bagseed - Midgrade - 1st real attempt - March 22

What's going on fellow pot heads...I finally got some pics gathered up of my babies. I've germinated several seeds in the past and attempted to grow them just out of curiosity. I never really had the best environment for them, but I do now. So I'm going to attempt this again. So pull up a chair.. sit back and spark up...and let's watch these babies grow!

Info:

400 watt MH/HPS Switchable ballast with MH as of now.
Winged reflector.
Two pots each @ 3.5 gallons.
Soil is Fox Farms Ocean Forrest.
FIJI bottled water @ 7.5 ph untouched - only the best for my babies.
Nutes are Bio Vega, Bio Flores, and Botanicare Sweet Berry - using Bio Vega as of now.
Homemade Co2 - yeast and sugar.
Two oscillating fans.
ReliOn warm humidifier.
Standard digital thermometer/humidity gauge.
PH test kit - some shit I scored from Home Depot.
Digital Timer for MH/HPS.
6 * 27 watt CFL's @ 6500k - two weeks under these lights, currently not in use.
Set of T5's @ 40 watts. - currently not in use.

I picked up most of my supplies from Texas Hydroponics. Those guys kick ass, so mad props to them!
Texas Hydroponics & Organics

I think that's it, if I have forgotten anything I will add it later. Feel free to comment or ask any questions. I don't have names for them yet, so maybe we can come up with something together - damn I'm lame! I got two other plants that are thrown into the mix as well. One was a little runt that I don't expect much from, but going to grow to see the outcome. The other is one my girlfriend had been trying her green thumb out on, that had been outside. It started looking promising so we decided to throw it in with these others. You can definitely tell a huge difference between a plant that has been growing outside and ones that have been growing inside.

Day 23

Plant 1













Plant 2





Stats Today:

Temp @ 80 *F
RH @ 52 Percent

Low @ 73 *F / RH 43 Percent
High @ 82 *F / RH 58 Percent

Light Cycle @ 18/6

Plant 1 seems to be blowing Plant 2 out of the water as far as growth goes. They are both treated equally with the same amount of love.

What a great start!!! Look very healthy

Thanks bro! Yea, I saw your grow you had going, what a fucken trip huh?!

so far so good! looking very nice and healthy.

Thanks man, really appreciate the feedback. Parents love to hear they have a beautiful child - LOL!

I was on cfl's for about the first 2 weeks, scraped that and went with this 400 watt MH, definitely much better. I'm gonna see if I can find the pic and show you the difference. Wish I had the camera from the get go, but oh well.

Ok, here's Plant 1 at 9 days.



And for anyone wondering, that soil mix there is:

60 Percent Scott's potting soil
30 Percent MG Sphagnum Peat Moss
10 Percent Perlite

When I switched to Fox Farms Ocean Forrest, I noticed a huge difference in growth. Plants love that stuff much better then the MG and Scotts. Didn't switch to the Fox Farms until second and final transplant.

Your plants look super healthy and amazing!! Good luck man, i hope there GIRLS!!!!

Yea, me to! All this hard work for some males would suck, but hell, it's definitely taught me quite a bit. So I wouldn't trade that for nothing.

**update**

Both of these babies already smell really skunky. You can't walk into the room and smell them, but if you get close to them and take a big whiff, MMMMM! I'm super stoked about that! I hope these are females!

Day 24

Nothing new today, all stats are about the same. Did notice a little bit of growth, but nothing worth posting.

They look really nice, very healthy, I wish my plants looked that pretty. They seem smallish for 23 days, does that mean from when they first sprouted or when you first started germination? Maybe it's just because you are growing in such large pots though., so it looks smaller to me in relation.

Yea, I thought the same. This is from sprout. The pictures can be a bit deceiving. They are actually a bit bigger then what they seem. Also, the big ass pots seem to dwarf them.

One of them is much bigger then the other though. Plant 1 is probably a few inches bigger then plant 2.

I'm gonna measure these fuckers and see how big they are. Thanks for stopping by man!

**update**

Also, note that these were grown with CFL's for around two weeks. I think that contributes to them maybe being a bit smaller. When I switched to the 400 watt MH, they took off.

Can't find my damn ruler or measuring tape! I'd say that Plant 1 is roughly 5 inches tall and Plant 2 is about 4 inches tall. I could be wrong though, so I'll have to see when I get something to measure.

You guys think I should let them get about a foot tall, then start flowering or maybe a foot and a half? Also, regarding the smell, do male plants smell skunky? I'm not sure of these guys sex yet.

GrnMan said:

Yea, I thought the same. This is from sprout. The pictures can be a bit deceiving. They are actually a bit bigger then what they seem. Also, the big ass pots seem to dwarf them.

One of them is much bigger then the other though. Plant 1 is probably a few inches bigger then plant 2.

I'm gonna measure these fuckers and see how big they are. Thanks for stopping by man!

**update**

Also, note that these were grown with CFL's for around two weeks. I think that contributes to them maybe being a bit smaller. When I switched to the 400 watt MH, they took off.

Can't find my damn ruler or measuring tape! I'd say that Plant 1 is roughly 5 inches tall and Plant 2 is about 4 inches tall. I could be wrong though, so I'll have to see when I get something to measure.

You guys think I should let them get about a foot tall, then start flowering or maybe a foot and a half? Also, regarding the smell, do male plants smell skunky? I'm not sure of these guys sex yet.

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My opinion is width is far more important than height. If it is 6" tall but a foot wide you're rocking! I say this since lights can't penetrate too far so a wide canopy rules - regardless of height. Of course, the plant has to be mature enough to support big-ass buds though.

When you decide to flower is dependent on a few things - mainly the power of your light and how much vertical space you have for them to grow up. Indicas and Indica-heavy hybrids can double in size and sativas seem to never stop growing! They can quadruple in size after switching to 12/12! so be warned.

The smell of male plants is strain dependent. Breeders look for pungent males to pollinate their females so yes, males can have a very strong odor.

Thanks for responding man.

If it 6" tall but a foot wide you're rocking! I say this since lights can't penetrate too far so a large wide canopy rules.

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Yea, almost that tall. And yes, they are pretty wide! I'd say Plant 1 is nealy 8 or 9 inches wide.

When you decide to flower is dependent on a few things - mainly the power of your light and how much vertical space you have for them to grow up. Indicas and Indica-heavy hybrids can double in size and sativas never seem to stop growing! They can quadruple in size after switching to 12/12! so be warned.

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I will be using a 400 watt HPS. Not sure on the bulb brand. Aren't there better brands then others?

I got plenty of grow space, probably about 9 ft. Not to worried about that - thank god! Yea, I've read that they will blow up during flower.

to be honest, i think a lot of the bulb stuff is hype. i'm sure you'll be pleased by any 400w HPS results.

with that grow space you can greatly increase your yield by letting your plants grow a normal vegetative cycle - like 2-3 months. I saw your plants are wide - that is one of the things i look for in a grow. short and bushy! The trick is to make sure as much light hit your bud sites as possible without hacking the shit out of your plant.

here is an example of lollypopping (cut away all the undergrowth to focus light and the plant's energy on producing buds) before and after....

Yea, just what I was thinking about the bulbs. I think this MH I got in here now is some generic one to be honest. It's doing pretty well.

Yea these fuckers seem to grow out and not up. So I guess that's a good thing. I haven't done to much research on lolly popping, but I've seen the topic all over the forums. Seems like a fairly simple process.

I got some CFL's I was using before I switched to the MH. I was thinking about throwing them into the mix to get a little more light on the sides of these guys. Only thing keeping me from doing it, is the fact that I know I'm probably going to run into some heat issues. What are your thoughts?

Also, those shots were done with my friends camera. I'm going to need to get one. The one I currently have is pretty nice, but I want a digital slr camera. What type of camera are you using? I like the Nikon Digital SLR D40, what do you think about that one?

same as yours - the more light the better provided heat doesn't become a problem.

I picked up some Botanicare Sweet Berry from they hydro store today, so I added that to the info list. This sounds like it will be some really good stuff for my plants during the flower cycle. I've been doing a bit of research on it as well as some stuff called Liquid Karma. I will probably pick that stuff up on Friday.

You guys ever used or seen someone that's used either of these products? I'm interested to see what it can really do. The Liquid Karma is suppose to have, what looks like all 20 essential amino acids. I know from working out that amino acids are the building blocks of protein. Protein makes strong muscles so I'm sure this will make my plants strong and healthy. It's also got vitamins, carbs, and phytohormones.






mmmm..sweet berry

Here is a post from Earl that goes through some popular brands and what they really are...
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/54183-what-absolute-best-nutrient-2.html#post599256

This is what he has to say about LiquidKarma:
If you are looking for just one thing to add to nutrient regimen,
Liquid Karma is the one.

looks good!

It'll be interesting to see what they look like when you switch to 12/12

Thanks for that link email. Yea, I sure can't wait to see what Plant 1 is going to look like when I start to flower.

I'm going to try and get some pics up tonight.