Bagseed

Heres a great little bagseed that i've been growing. Its twelve twelve from seed so i didn't really know when to start the flowering count. This was my first and only attempt at 12/12 works pretty damn good but now i have some moms. At first this plant looked like a heavily indica dominant strain huge fat leaves in the veg and now it looks more sativa. I am having a little trouble i think i'm gonna feed one more week then flush a week its either at the end of 5 or 6 weeks. What do you think this is my first indoor with hps




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hobogrower said:

Heres a great little bagseed that i've been growing. Its twelve twelve from seed so i didn't really know when to start the flowering count. This was my first and only attempt at 12/12 works pretty damn good but now i have some moms. At first this plant looked like a heavily indica dominant strain huge fat leaves in the veg and now it looks more sativa. I am having a little trouble i think i'm gonna feed one more week then flush a week its either at the end of 5 or 6 weeks. What do you think this is my first indoor with hps




I always use this soil hard to find but it kicks ass and it cheap way better the ff or bio bizz

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Pretty cool and weird looking at the same time. I've never heard of 12/12 from seed to finish. How big are the plants?

I started 25 ended up with 12 that survived grow kinda sog under a 400 watt vertically hung the tallest is about 18 inches most are 15 to 16 range i think i got lucky and ended up with a good bagseed strain bcuz they all grew pretty much the same looks like good bud i just don't really know when to start flushing. I use all organics but i still like to flush for a week.

hobogrower said:

I started 25 ended up with 12 that survived grow kinda sog under a 400 watt vertically hung the tallest is about 18 inches most are 15 to 16 range i think i got lucky and ended up with a good bagseed strain bcuz they all grew pretty much the same looks like good bud i just don't really know when to start flushing. I use all organics but i still like to flush for a week.

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Someone more experienced would probably give you better advice but I would say wait until the Trichomes turn mostly amber and flush then harvest.

You grew 12 plants under just a single 400w HPS? What kind of yield do you expect?

I used to uses floro tubes 6 " pots and 8 plants per shoplight and average 8 grams so with the hps i figure i could to 36 and average 20 grams once dialed in. I assume these little bastards will produce about 10 grams maybe a little more. No more 12/12 from seed though I've been filling the rest of the room 6 clones a week vegged for two weeks Big Bang and Kc mango and next week the hempstar and white widow are going in continued this way until the room is full. Perpetual and such also my 6" pots hold a little over a gallon

hobogrower said:

I used to uses floro tubes 6 " pots and 8 plants per shoplight and average 8 grams so with the hps i figure i could to 36 and average 20 grams once dialed in. I assume these little bastards will produce about 10 grams maybe a little more. No more 12/12 from seed though I've been filling the rest of the room 6 clones a week vegged for two weeks Big Bang and Kc mango and next week the hempstar and white widow are going in continued this way until the room is full. Perpetual and such also my 6" pots hold a little over a gallon

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I think if you added more light or lowered the amount of plants per light you would probably get more weight from each plant. I've got 6 plants under a 400w HPS and a 200w CFL and I'm already looking at 7grams per plant and it's only 3 weeks into flower. 10 grams sounds disappointing to me but as long as your happy that's cool.

I'm looking to do pretty much what you are as far as the modified SOG but I was waiting for this batch to be done so I could change the light cycle to 18/6 while I build my flowering box. If you got plants to grow from seed on 12/12 then maybe I could start my seeds now on the 12/12 and by the time I'm ready to harvest my current plants I'll be one step ahead on the seedlings. what kind of problems did you have with seedlings on 12/12?

if i got 10 grams on 36 plants thats almost 1 gram per what its already almost there with my first run and i'm pretty sure when it gets dialed in like i dialed my floro tubes produce more than a gram per watt i'm pretty sure i can get 20 grams per plant wich would be 720 grams for the room 15 grams per plant would be 540 grams easily achievable if i'm already producing 8 to 10 grams with bagseed 360g, 540gs, or 720g with a 400 watt is easily achievable with a little time to dial in the strain its simple math. What do you think you could produce in a 1 gallon six inch pot with a strain like nl or ww.

hobogrower said:

if i got 10 grams on 36 plants thats almost 1 gram per what its already almost there with my first run and i'm pretty sure when it gets dialed in like i dialed my floro tubes produce more than a gram per watt i'm pretty sure i can get 20 grams per plant wich would be 720 grams for the room 15 grams per plant would be 540 grams easily achievable if i'm already producing 8 to 10 grams with bagseed 360g, 540gs, or 720g with a 400 watt is easily achievable with a little time to dial in the strain its simple math. What do you think you could produce in a 1 gallon six inch pot with a strain like nl or ww.

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I wouldn't use a 6" pot for flower. I was rootbound at 1 week of flower with a 6" pot and that's bagseed.

I think maybe I misunderstood you. If you can grab 15 grams off one plant that's pretty much a half oz. Which is good but I think if you had more light covering all those plants you could bump that up to 3/4 or a oz.

What kind of problems did you run into when startin seedlings at 12/12 all the way to flower?

Oh yeah and the 12 i have lets say the average 8g thats 96 for a 3 month grow thats about 3.4 ounces and there is 6 kc mango a 2 weeks behind the bagseed and then 6 big bang a week behind the mango and next week there will be either 6 hempstar or white widow behind they bangs. All these clone have been vegged for 2 weeks and will produce 10 to 20 grams. Harvest 6 a week at 10 to 20 grams and your talking about 2 to 4 ounces a week. I was getting good at this with floro tubes t8's i harvest 2 a week with 8 to ten grams i was using two 4 foot shop lights 8 plants per light this is how cash croppers made money back in the day. I just want to build up a quick stash of a variety of weed. I have a 400 flower room and 250 mh mom and clone room with like 4 of each hempstar kc mango big bang and passion 1 but shes for outside.

If seen a 3 ft bush in a solo cup root bound is a state of mind not being why grow like 4 3 footers that produce 2 ounces a piece when i can harvest 2-4 ounces a week with this type of perpetual grow a 400 watt is plenty for a 36"x 36" space hung vertically and 6 inches from the tops is even better and when you arrange you plants in a stadium style according to height you harldy see a shadow in the space. I could produce 5 to 6 ounces from one plant in a gallon pot outside root bound is non existant if you really pay attention to your girls

hobogrower said:

Oh yeah and the 12 i have lets say the average 8g thats 96 for a 3 month grow thats about 3.4 ounces and there is 6 kc mango a 2 weeks behind the bagseed and then 6 big bang a week behind the mango and next week there will be either 6 hempstar or white widow behind they bangs. All these clone have been vegged for 2 weeks and will produce 10 to 20 grams. Harvest 6 a week at 10 to 20 grams and your talking about 2 to 4 ounces a week. I was getting good at this with floro tubes t8's i harvest 2 a week with 8 to ten grams i was using two 4 foot shop lights 8 plants per light this is how cash croppers made money back in the day. I just want to build up a quick stash of a variety of weed. I have a 400 flower room and 250 mh mom and clone room with like 4 of each hempstar kc mango big bang and passion 1 but shes for outside.

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That's pretty sweet. I'm looking to do one harvest a month of about 6 oz using about 6-8 plants on a cycle. I'm just using Bagseed for now because I've got some decent seeds. I'm going to try a few under this 12/12 thing you had going to just see what the result would be. If my plants die it's your fault. lol. j/k

hobogrower said:

If seen a 3 ft bush in a solo cup root bound is a state of mind not being why grow like 4 3 footers that produce 2 ounces a piece when i can harvest 2-4 ounces a week with this type of perpetual grow a 400 watt is plenty for a 36"x 36" space hung vertically and 6 inches from the tops is even better and when you arrange you plants in a stadium style according to height you harldy see a shadow in the space. I could produce 5 to 6 ounces from one plant in a gallon pot outside root bound is non existant if you really pay attention to your girls

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Hmmm stadium style....that's a really good fucking idea.

i think the one thing i would do diferent is when they started to show sex i stopped giving them nitro big mistake because they didn't stretch as much as i wanted but thats all i would do different. If you have a good light 12/12 will work. Also because i stopped nitrogen a little to early i've had to feed a little here and there in flower and one plant didn't like it very well about 3 1/2 weeks in turned stunted and leafy and got chopped 2 weeks later and was made into firecrackers pretty good eats though it wouldn't snap out of its stunted ness so i stabbed the ho and ate her lol it was producing trichomes though

hobogrower said:

i think the one thing i would do diferent is when they started to show sex i stopped giving them nitro big mistake because they didn't stretch as much as i wanted but thats all i would do different. If you have a good light 12/12 will work. Also because i stopped nitrogen a little to early i've had to feed a little here and there in flower and one plant didn't like it very well about 3 1/2 weeks in turned stunted and leafy and got chopped 2 weeks later and was made into firecrackers pretty good eats though it wouldn't snap out of its stunted ness so i stabbed the ho and ate her lol it was producing trichomes though

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you murderer...

lol it wasn't one of the 12 that made it and it made my day for about 5 hours lol

Can anyone help me determine when i should start flushing +rep

you've got way to many plant under a 400w. I grow only 10 under 1000w. More plants doesn't always mean more bud. theres only so much light to go around ya know? I wouldn't grow more then 4 or five and veg untill about 18". you'll end up with 3.5 to 4 foot plants and they will yeild alot more then 20 shorts.. But nice looking buds, strange looking plants though.

I think i'm going to always be close or more than a gram per watt these 1st couple runs wich i think is good. I know a lot of people like the big plant theory but i have always produced in 6 inch pots and i think i can average 2 grams a watt once i get this dialed in. I also grow lots of differnt strains usually so the more plants the merrier for me. Minimal veg time and lots of buds have always been my style. I do believe in big plants just not in my house. I took more of a mathmatical approach to my grow i know what can be produced in a 6" pot under floros and with quadrupale the lumens i should be able to produce double this if not more for me that works out to me over a gram a watt. with big plants u can't guess you weight as easy i know that plant i posted to be 10 or more grams wich is acceptable for the first run cuz if the room was filled with all 36 a 10 gram avrg would be 360g close to a gram a watt. Thanx though for the info and comments tomato tomaato

IslandGreenGuy said:

you've got way to many plant under a 400w. I grow only 10 under 1000w. More plants doesn't always mean more bud. theres only so much light to go around ya know? I wouldn't grow more then 4 or five and veg untill about 18". you'll end up with 3.5 to 4 foot plants and they will yeild alot more then 20 shorts.. But nice looking buds, strange looking plants though.

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What size space are you in and what are you producing per plant and per grow. Also what do you think you could produce in 1 6" 1 gallon pot in your setup.

anyone have a good eye for harvest