Barney's Farm - Tangerine Dream - Waterfarm!

Okay, here's some pics. Lots of new growth since the last picture update! I mixed up another gallon of nute mixture and this evening ant topped off the rez - it was about a gallon empty, so it really needed it.

I took another look at the roots in the rez tonight and they actually look very good - I thought there were some brown root-tips last time I checked, but it seems to look fine now...strange. Maybe I was just paranoid last time and was seeing things...lol..?

Anyways, enjoy the pics! More notes below...







I think the plant is looking a bit better since putting up the ventilation fan pulling air up and out of the roof of the tent. I have my screen almost ready to go, but we'll see what happens in the next few days - still trying to decided whether to move the setup into my big tent in order to use the 600w HPS cooltube for flowering... if I do that then I'll need to build legs for the screen at it will not be close enough to the sides to attach them with ties.

oooh to see that under a scrog will be a fine thing! she's looking a lot lusher now as well- its amazing what ventilation can do, my small cab has not got the best air flow and you can see it in the plants. cant afford anther fan atm tho

Dayzt said:

Okay, here's some pics. Lots of new growth since the last picture update! I mixed up another gallon of nute mixture and this evening ant topped off the rez - it was about a gallon empty, so it really needed it.

I took another look at the roots in the rez tonight and they actually look very good - I thought there were some brown root-tips last time I checked, but it seems to look fine now...strange. Maybe I was just paranoid last time and was seeing things...lol..?

Anyways, enjoy the pics! More notes below...

I think the plant is looking a bit better since putting up the ventilation fan pulling air up and out of the roof of the tent. I have my screen almost ready to go, but we'll see what happens in the next few days - still trying to decided whether to move the setup into my big tent in order to use the 600w HPS cooltube for flowering... if I do that then I'll need to build legs for the screen at it will not be close enough to the sides to attach them with ties.

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Your plant looks really good and imagine it will easily fill your screen. Not only will it fill it, but at some point, it will be putting upward pressure on your screen, so think ahead on how to secure your screen so it does not lift. Either build your screen on a base that your Water Farm sits on, or some way to fix it to the Water Farm unit itself. That can be as simple as tieing it down some way in the middle of the self standing screen
If now is the time to build a new screen that you can affix to the sides of your tent/cabinet, I would do so. I am experiencing almost a 2" lift in my screen from plant pressure. Please note that my current screen is constructed out of plastic construction fencing with built in flex.
I have my single Water Farm TD under a 600 watt and it has almost completely filled a 4 X 4 screen. I had started with a smaller 2-1/2' X 3-1/2' stand alone screen, but in my 2nd week of veg under the screen, I could already see that it would easily outgrow that size. So I gently removed it from the old screen and re-wove it under the larger screen (something you want to avoid doing).
I would also like to stress ease of access. I have inadvertently created more cuttings than intended due to damaged tops when tucking and pulling in a difficult to reach corner. So incorporate this consideration into your scrog design.
My current main concern is headroom, as from what I can see, the TD's colas are quite spear like and tend to be tall. Because of this, you may want to consider adding a 2nd upper sacrificial screen (one you can cut apart), at some point to control cola placement and air flow between buds.
I also tend to to get anxious about "what if's" (overall headroom) and am following SVT's journal for tips, as he has similar height restrictions and seems to be doing just fine with his screen set at 42" above floor, while mine is at 28".
By the way, the upper screen idea is also from SVT's journal.
If you can maintain light distance and control heat, then use the larger setup. Make sure you have good fans both above and below the screen. I am running two 7" fans above and a 10" below,. I also have a separate inline exhaust fan pulling through my light and exhausting to outside. This allows me to maintain temps at around 81 degrees max on 90+ degree days.
I look forward to following your grow.

awsome looking plant........she has grown so fast........i miss my waterfarm now......wwwwwaaaaahhhhhaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dude i luv my girls i have now, but i wish the farm was goin.......

That girl is only a month and a half old! They grow up before you know it don't they? Seems like yesterday when she was barely poking her head out of the hydroton. Man, I can't wait to see that screen on top of her. Lookin' good.

So I did a complete rez change-out this evening. She was looking a bit droopy yesterday evening, so I topped off the rez with what was left from the extra solution I had from the night before. This evening she was looking way better and was nice and perky, obviously appreciating the top-off. I think that reaction is a sign that she's ready for for nutes - I upped the ppm's this evening with the rez change - I'll get an official reading from a sample either later this evening or tomorrow. I had her close to 700 ppm last week and that's come back down to about 525 with the top-offs through-out the week. This time she's at about 895 but that was the test before it was added to the rez through the top-bucket...so we'll see what she tests at once it's had a chance to settle for a while.

Lots of bud sites - past the 20 mark now and counting. My screen is 'on hand' to put in any day now. Once it's in place, I'll start training her tops and spread her out from corner to corner. I'm still not sure whether to move her into the bigger tent under the 600w light for flowering...I'd kind of like to complete this grow all in the one tent, but then I'll be left with a 400w yield...while I could easily adapt it now and get a 600w yield...the next few days I'll have to decide. More pics to come in the next few days - still looking nice and green!

Ran a test just now - lookin good, hope she appreciates the xtra nutes - bumped her up by about ~200 ppms but she seemed to be askin for it!

5.5 pH
~900 ppm

Below the canopy, the main stem on this girl looks kinda like a bonzai tree. It's nearly an inch thick and bulbuous - branches coming up everywhere...once the screen is in place, there will be quite a lot of cleanup done down there but I've kept it so low that it will be tricky. I hope the extra LST work pays off with this plant - looking forward to a packed screen. Since I left a nice space around the perimeter of the screen, I may be able to even spread some of the longest branches just outside of the screen's outer edge if necessary. We'll see!

diy screen? or prefab? im looking into a scrog myself, for the amount of work the yield seems to make up for it.. from what iv read and seen anyway, i never attempted yet.
you plant looks excellent cant wait to see it in flower! subbed up

matatan said:

diy screen? or prefab? im looking into a scrog myself, for the amount of work the yield seems to make up for it.. from what iv read and seen anyway, i never attempted yet.
you plant looks excellent cant wait to see it in flower! subbed up

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It's a rickety diy one I put together using a plastic yard fence piece with the holes cut bigger to 2" per. I just stapled the plastic screen to 4 pieces of wooden edging (just over 3 ft each) I picked up in Home Depot. I don't even have the edges nailed together at the corners, so it will be a very flexible screen with solid edges...

I know this has been touched on about ph balancing but still a little confused. How do you ph adjust water that's already in waterfarm? Can you add a drop of up or down into the rez or if I need to increase ph do I add water with a higher ph? This has been bothering me as I hear of people adjusting the ph daily but not sure how this is done. About to launch my first grow with a waterfarm. Any info would be appreciated. Read through Scottys thread but he does not go over this.

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I know this has been touched on about ph balancing but still a little confused. How do you ph adjust water that's already in waterfarm? Can you add a drop of up or down into the rez or if I need to increase ph do I add water with a higher ph? This has been bothering me as I hear of people adjusting the ph daily but not sure how this is done. About to launch my first grow with a waterfarm. Any info would be appreciated. Read through Scottys thread but he does not go over this.

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Pretty much a 1 word answer to your question - Flora-Nova. Using the GH Flora Nova from the beginning of the grow, I've had great luck with it keeping my pH balanced. Using RO water, I always immediately pH down a fresh bucket of water before adding any nutes, and now that I'm adding about 3 tsp of Flora-Nova per 2 gal of RO water, it's really easy to keep it in balance with that amount of nutes in it. And then the nice thing about that, is you can then focus on your ppm's closer and not worry as much about where the pH is. The FN keeps it close to or around 5.5 - as soon as it starts to drift up too much, it's a good sign that the plant is eating - also usually means your water level is going down, so... anyways, hope that helps!

The lady was looking extra sexy this evening so I took some fresh snapshots! Also topped off the rez this evening - not much extra nute solution left so I'll need to mix up another batch tomorrow eve.

Enjoy!!

^^^Ok..the method I'll be using will be to add a fresh batch of nutrients after she has gone through two gallons of top off. My question is really between these rez changes. Thank you for your informative post as I'll be using Flora Nova Bloom as well. Sorry if this is a bit redundant, I just don't want to kill my plant. Thanks again for your quick response...

Edit: Wow that TD looks likes she's exploding. Niceee

Spoc said:

^^^Ok..the method I'll be using will be to add a fresh batch of nutrients after she has gone through two gallons of top off. My question is really between these rez changes. Thank you for your informative post as I'll be using Flora Nova Bloom as well. Sorry if this is a bit redundant, I just don't want to kill my plant. Thanks again for your quick response...

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If your pH changes outside of the 5.5-6.2 range between rez changes, you can definitely use pH down - but you should also consider just bumping up your ppm's - that will of course mean adding more nutes, so it will again help adjust your pH with the extra buffers. Just make a slightly stronger solution to top off your rez with and that will help.

Lookin great, just drop pin in because I just got a couple waterfarms and wanted to check them out. Hope the smoke turns out as nice as she looks. that LST training is definitely going to pay off for you in the end.

Someguy15 said:

Lookin great, just drop pin in because I just got a couple waterfarms and wanted to check them out. Hope the smoke turns out as nice as she looks. that LST training is definitely going to pay off for you in the end.

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Hey man - great to see you back!! Yeah, I think I'm pretty much converted from soil to waterfarm now - I plan to eventually have 3 of them going at once in a rotation of some sort - in order to have a few different strains going at once.

At this point, the LST has really pushed back the time to put down the screen. I've had all the ties removed now though for a few days, so the screen will inevitably go down in the next few days in order to try and start getting some control over the ol girl! At this point, I'm thinking there's no more than only a few more weeks of veg before I'll have to flip my light cycle so I don't run out of room in the tent!

looking sweet as man, sweet. as.

Finally got my screen setup this evening - ended up suspending it from two coat-hangers. The wooden edges should be heavy enough to hold the screen down enough once she starts pushing up from below against the screen... if not, I may need to rethink this idea...lol...tell me what ya'll think! I topped the rez off this evening as well. I've started to move the taller branches out towards the edges so the smaller growth can come up to the canopy top.









I know she's a bit crooked, but it will work I think.

Great job. Keep up the good work. She's a beauty!

I dun think the wood will be heavy enough but thas just me. 400w rite, so something like 8-9 ozs off that girl if all goes well, I think she'll just push that screen outta the way but as long as u have a plan for that guess ur good for now.