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stephaniesloan

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paid £118.00 from attitude seeds

got 20 feminized barneys farm lsd seeds. 18 germinated 10 are hermies.

never again will i ever buy a fucking seed from a seed bank fucking hate the muther fuckers now.

i am gonna use clones from now on
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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Don't stop buying seeds, just stop buying Barney's bullshit. If you can run 20 plants, get a couple packs of reg seeds from Emerald Triangle or Alphakronik or something, and pick your good female. The genetics from those breeders out surpass barney's by a long shot.
 
Don't stop buying seeds, just stop buying Barney's bullshit. If you can run 20 plants, get a couple packs of reg seeds from Emerald Triangle or Alphakronik or something, and pick your good female. The genetics from those breeders out surpass barney's by a long shot.
I agree. I have heard countless stories of fem seeds that hermied after the slightest problem. Buy seeds from a REPUTABLE seed bank/dealer. I would start with at least 16-20 seeds. Plant all that germinate. Veg for 5-6 weeks (until on their 8th node+) Move them into 12/12 light. Watch carefully and eliminate the males immediately upon discovery. Grow the girls under 12/12 until around 4 weeks. Even though the seeds are the same strain, every one is different. BELIEVE ME!! At around 4-4.5 weeks, you will be able to pick the best "mom". More often than not, there will be one plant that looks better, is frostier, etc than the rest. Return the chosen one to 24/0 light for a week, then return to 18/6. she will begin to veg again and you'll have the "pick of the litter" so to speak! Steer clear of fem seeds!!
Happy burnin!
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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I love fems. If you get them from the right breeder, you're golden. I have plant limitations so I usually run fems unless there's something I really want to have that's only in reg. But if I could run as many as the op, I'd go for regs. You also never know what you want to keep for a mom until that shit is down and you've smoked it. Picking a mom at 4.5 weeks is silly, sorry.
 

hotrodharley

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paid £118.00 from attitude seeds

got 20 feminized barneys farm lsd seeds. 18 germinated 10 are hermies.

never again will i ever buy a fucking seed from a seed bank fucking hate the muther fuckers now.

i am gonna use clones from now on
Yep. Nobody ever took a loser clone home, right?
 
I love fems. If you get them from the right breeder, you're golden. I have plant limitations so I usually run fems unless there's something I really want to have that's only in reg. But if I could run as many as the op, I'd go for regs. You also never know what you want to keep for a mom until that shit is down and you've smoked it. Picking a mom at 4.5 weeks is silly, sorry.
No need to apologize. I was referring to picking a mother to cut clones from. As growers, we have all tried many things and sooner or later, discover what works best for them. Having grown for many years, I have popped my share of seeds to grow. In early days, I would just germ some seeds, veg them, then 12/12 light, kill the boys and flower the girls, only to start over... seeds, veg, kill the boys, over and over again! As I progressed, to save time I began to clone instead of growing from seeds. This takes out all of the guesswork since it is a genetic duplicate of the plant it is taken from. Next time you plant a handful of seeds from your next strain, keep a close eye on your plants as they progress through the flowering cycle. Many times, there is one (sometimes more) that flowers better, has more frost, is bushier... than the rest, etc. When you just keep the first female found and use it as a mother for cloning, chances are, you are doing yourself a dis-service. The reason I chose the 4-4.5 week time-frame, is it provides the maximum flowering time to observe the plant characteristics, while still being able to return the plant to a vegetative state. Many plants cannot return to a veg state after 5-6 weeks. I cannot say that I have noticed a difference in the "smoke" of a particular strain, provided the conditions are the same between plants. I have, however found that how well a plant grows and responds does change from seed to seed, just like clones from the top of a mother grow differently than clones cut from the middle or bottom of the same plant.

I appreciate your input, but to say it's silly just means you may not completely grasp all that is involved in proper and efficient genetic selecting. Instead of this type of remark, you could explain why you disagree. This will allow others to make their own conclusions based on the available information. I will not be drawn into an argumentative debate. I just want to share my knowledge and experience...
Remember, this forum isn't for grandiloquent comments, we're here to help each other.
 

Capt. Stickyfingers

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I disagree because I've had many plants that I thought were going to turn out to be the best pheno until after drying, curing, and smoking it. If you think picking a mom at 4.5 weeks is "proper and efficient genetic selecting", you are wrong. I grasp quite a bit my man. I don't care if a plant is bushier or frostier, it's how high it gets me and how good it tastes and smells when it's done. You cannot tell whatsoever that outcome at 4.5 weeks of flowering, no way. And a tip for you: Take cuttings before you flower. And don't spread misinformation, a clone from the bottom of a plant is just as fine as taking one from the middle or top.
 

match box

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There is a prob with fem. seeds they herm. If you can take your own cuttings it would be the best way to control your grow. imho
 

stephaniesloan

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female seeds herm feminized seeds do not herm.

feminized seeds herm when sprayed with colloidal silver.

barneys fucking farm fucking scumbag cunts have not sent me feminized fucking seeds.
 

Sencha

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OP, You give growers and our community a bad name. You'll be lucky to get any sympathy after that tirade.
 
I disagree because I've had many plants that I thought were going to turn out to be the best pheno until after drying, curing, and smoking it. If you think picking a mom at 4.5 weeks is "proper and efficient genetic selecting", you are wrong. I grasp quite a bit my man. I don't care if a plant is bushier or frostier, it's how high it gets me and how good it tastes and smells when it's done. You cannot tell whatsoever that outcome at 4.5 weeks of flowering, no way.
Excellent! Thank you Capt! That is the response I was looking for. Now you can see how someone reading this post can take experience from both sides and come to their own conclusion. I do agree that you do not know the quality of a plant until the product is properly sampled (harvest, drying and of course a proper cure). Knowing that I like a particular strain like Sour Diesel, for example, when growing my own from seed, I would utilize my method to have the best plant possible from the available seeds. While our knowledge and experiences differ, the end result we seek is a product that is both quality and consistent. Thanks for your input. Check out my operation and give me your constructive feedback. Posted in Grow Room Design & Setup titled:
In The Closet...My perpetual grow. Maximum numbers from minimal space.
 

Sencha

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I did not see that. I've read alot of vulgar and stupid shit this week though.

Don't we all smoke pot here? I've heard of the gateway therory but these jokers need a chill pill.
 

polyarcturus

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I did not see that. I've read alot of vulgar and stupid shit this week though.

Don't we all smoke pot here? I've heard of the gateway therory but these jokers need a chill pill.
sam here i dont know what going on i came out of my cave to help some people and all ive seen is crazy stupidity going on. 120 vs 240v, herms, fucking promethazine, the list goes on and on this is why i stopped being so helpful after while plus explaining genetics is so expanisve, yet everybody want to blame the breeders, or call them herms or males even. just because a plant shows balls first dont make it a man especially in the cannabis world. its just bullshit plain and simple thats why i stick to my few friends on here.
 

polyarcturus

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thats a post not science and once a fem breeds with a fem it still works like parents.

so if either plant has a recessive gene (they both do cannibis has this gene built in) that has the survival ability to hermaphrodite. the children will also have this gene to hermaphrodite whether its dominant or not is relevant to the parents.

what your basically saying is that some plant can not her but this is not true that is the point of CS, to make plants that would otherwise not herm, go herm.

males are about the only sex not known to herm often and the exact science of this factor and dioecious plants is not complete.
the science world is still learning about it

now please chuck you pollen at some one else im not impressed with you total lack of understanding genetics.
 

polyarcturus

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also would you like me to get into the "hidden genetics" of cannabis plants for example females hermies that truly express male organs and have an extra chromasome that allows them to do this? and how this hidden retards are different from obvious retards like tripoloidy?

listen bro you dont know shit ive read books and books, listened to a lot of good folk and know my shit about genetics i let a lot of shit slide because people dont know thier shit but its complicated so i dont mind. but you are even fucking up the simple shit! i told you a fact get over it you cant blame the company you can blame yourself.

ive done my research, HAVE YOU?

most of this shit is in Robert Clarke Maurijuana Botany. complicated book but if you take your time.... the information can be gleaned.
 
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