diggs99
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Usually around day 14-18 from sprout, once the leaves start growing out past the edges of the cups ill toss them in their final pots. 3g fabrics pots of coco for these gals.
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Usually around day 14-18 from sprout, once the leaves start growing out past the edges of the cups ill toss them in their final pots. 3g fabrics pots of coco for these gals.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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I’m going to be starting a waterfarm grow next month and haven’t done one in like 4 years so I had to go back through my old threads to refresh my memory on how the I did them. I couldn’t remember how much H2O2 i used! I’m glad I did the research because I found a shit load of other important stuff I needed as well. I use to add 5 mls of H2O2 with my nutes per gallon mixing real good. It works fantastic! I always had super clean roots and no algae or nasty build ups .
Laughing Grass
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When I started my setup I heavily considered waterfarm. My grow is in the basement on a concrete floor so my reservoir temps never go over 69 in the summer and stay close to 67 in the winter. My roots don't stay pure white for very long. I don't know if it's the flora micro staining them or the beneficial bacteria colonies, but they're usually more off white/yellow. There's no bad smell or algae so I've just ignored it. I was checking h2o2 and it's only $12 a liter on Amamzon, One liter of voodoo juice is $85.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Yeah H202 is super cheap. I use it with General Hydroponics Flora Nova Bloom and Biotanicare CalMag . Just those 3 additives the entire grow. Full Res change at least once a week. I used flora micro once and hated it . They are sending me some micro flora nute in my waterfarm kit but I’m going to toss it in the trash. There are a lot of total crap products out there. I made the mistake my last grow of trying a new nute line and it was a nightmare. At this point I realize I need to stick with what has been successful in the past.When I started my setup I heavily considered waterfarm. My grow is in the basement on a concrete floor so my reservoir temps never go over 69 in the summer and stay close to 67 in the winter. My roots don't stay pure white for very long. I don't know if it's the flora micro staining them or the beneficial bacteria colonies, but they're usually more off white/yellow. There's no bad smell or algae so I've just ignored it. I was checking h2o2 and it's only $12 a liter on Amamzon, One liter of voodoo juice is $85.
Laughing Grass
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What didn't you like about the micro? I've only used the GH flora series plus calimagic and armor si. I don't really understand the differences between them all and have been following a feed chart given to me. I was using floralicious plus and florablend additives previously but decided to simplify this grow and leave them out. Floralicious plus reeked and permanently stains anything that comes in contact with it.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Yeah, I remember the staining. It was like 10 years ago that I used it and I was looking through my old old threads trying to find the reason I abandoned it. Maybe a ph problem? I remember someone else mentioned also having a problem with it or that it was just straight up shit and don’t use it. So I tossed it along with the other 2 freebies. I’m getting them tomorrow and will look at the ingredients. I definitely do not go by feed charts. They are usually designed to over feed so that you spend more money buying more from them. Do you use a ppm meter? For me it’s the best way to see how much you are feeding and what you need to feed.
Laughing Grass
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I bought the bluelabs ph/ec meter kit. I try to test everything daily, but it's usually every other day. Originally I had $20 meters from Amazon and they weren't very accurate when compared to bluelabs. I usually calibrate the ph meter once a month and I've only had to calibrate the ec meter once in 10 months. My previous grows I've been really careful with the nutrients and listened to people telling me to go 50% of the recommended dosage. This time I'm pushing them quite hard. I'm not at the recommended dosage, but I'm running more than double the nutrients I ran previously.
Laughing Grass
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So I made the decision this week that I was going to lollipop my plants to combat some of the congestion problems I've experienced in the past. I'm guessing I took close to 60% of the plant off. Everything that I didn't think would make it to the trellis was removed. I'm still a little nervous, but I think it the long run it will be better for me. I've always just picked a leaf here and there, never a wholesale removal of so much plant material.
I was away from Friday to Sunday. The plants drank half their water and my PPM dropped to just over 600. I had one leaf on each plant that didn't look very healthy. Almost like there was rust between the veins. After a res change they perked right up and it only looks like those two leaves. Below is a pic of the leaf. Since it doesn't seem to be spreading, I don't think I'm going to worry about it too much.
Photos were taken yesterday. the last photo is what the screen looks like this morning.
I was away from Friday to Sunday. The plants drank half their water and my PPM dropped to just over 600. I had one leaf on each plant that didn't look very healthy. Almost like there was rust between the veins. After a res change they perked right up and it only looks like those two leaves. Below is a pic of the leaf. Since it doesn't seem to be spreading, I don't think I'm going to worry about it too much.
Photos were taken yesterday. the last photo is what the screen looks like this morning.
Laughing Grass
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Dr.Amber Trichome
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Looks great! Nice job! How big is you tent?
Laughing Grass
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Thanks! It's a 3x3 gorilla grow tent. I also bought the 2 foot extension that allows you to go to 8 feet. Probably should have measured my basement ceiling first, it's only 6.5 feet lol.
Laughing Grass
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Thanks @diggs99
Plants are seven weeks old today, about a week older than when I started flowering previous grows.
I’m wondering what people’s thoughts are on when I should start flowering. My goal is to completely fill the trellis.
I’m amazed how quickly the recover from being bent and held down. First pic is after I tucked the tops last night, rest of the pics are from this morning.
Plants are seven weeks old today, about a week older than when I started flowering previous grows.
I’m wondering what people’s thoughts are on when I should start flowering. My goal is to completely fill the trellis.
I’m amazed how quickly the recover from being bent and held down. First pic is after I tucked the tops last night, rest of the pics are from this morning.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Start flowering now.
Laughing Grass
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Okay. I've flipped the timer this morning to start 12/12 today. The screen is filling out quickly. Quite difference in just two days. One thing I'm definitely going to change on the next grow is the screen. A 4x4 inch square is way too big, I'd like something closer to 2x2 inch.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Awesome! Looking fantastic!
Laughing Grass
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One week of flowering done. I did a heavy defoliation yesterday and removed the remainder of the leaves under the screen. The stretch on these plants is a lot less than I've had in the past. They're getting 1150ppm early flower feed now and drinking about 2 liters per day. I'm not experiencing any of the ph swings and ppm drops that I've experienced in the past with the lower ppm feed.
I'll continue tucking for the rest of the week and let it go starting on Friday. I'm off on vacation for ten days starting the 20th so I'll update when I'm back home.
I'll continue tucking for the rest of the week and let it go starting on Friday. I'm off on vacation for ten days starting the 20th so I'll update when I'm back home.
Laughing Grass
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Back from vacation and my plants survived! Pics are from day 21 flower. I think I should have done another week or so of veg to allow the canopy to fill out better a little better, these didn't stretch very much. I have one stem that looks like two stems fused together with a centipede on top. @BigHornBuds explained that it's a polyploid. (last two pics) Since it's one of my main stems I'm just going to let it go and see what it does. I've had a hermi in the past and I don't want to stress it by removing anything.
I love dwc but it is a different monster as far as figuring out when to flip so don't end up too full or not full enough. I have been running a couple 3x3 tents for quite a while now. I run one 315 cmh per tent. Last time I ran them I hit 11.5 zips from one and 12 from the other. I run 4 or 5 plants per tent in 2 or 3 gallon pots of Coco/perilite. Hand watered once per day. I was only averaging 8-10 zips before when didn't use a scrog net. Now I put up two nets right before the flip let the plants grow into the bottom net a little bit tuck the branches once and flip. I remove everything below the bottom net ( basically only leaving the top 3 or 4 leave sets on each branch) and pinch any branches that grow taller than the others for the first week. Then leave em alone and wait for em to hit second net (between day 14-21) then I defoliate hard. If needed I defoliate again around day 42(if went hard enough first time might not need too). Defoliating too early can stop your stretch so if you need more stretch wait a bit longer if your into your second net then it's time to defoliate, it def helps to slow that stretch down some if things are headed too tall.
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