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HydroGp

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Thx Dr.
I just found this gem hiding in the forum.


  • Feminized breeding (STS)
    Hello friends,

    I'm about to start experimenting with STS-based reversals and feminized breeding, and I'd like to share the results with you, so I thought I'd take a moment to define the technical terms I'll be using frequently. If there's any other terms or concepts you'd like explained, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

    Terminology for STS breeding:

    STS: Silver thiosulfate, a salt compound used in photography. In plants, silver interferes with, or locks out, copper, which is a necessary micronutrient. Making copper unavilable inteferes with ethylene signaling, and reduces expression of traits that are dependent on high levels of ethylene, such as female sex expression and fruit ripening.

    Copper: a micronutrient that is necessary to assist certain enzymes in their function. Copper can become toxic at low levels, but a few parts per billion is adequate for plants to express their genetic potential. Because copper is needed at such low levels, it does not take much silver to overwhelm the available copper load and exert its effect.

    Ethylene: One of the 5 plant hormones. The levels and ratios of these 5 hormones has a huge impact on the shape, strucutre, aroma, flavor, flowering time, and disease resistance of the plant. Hormones are the chemical messengers that allow DNA to 'talk' to plant tissues and determine the phenotype. Ethylene is primarily involved in flowering, sex determination, fruit ripening, and sensescence (rot). Ethylene is a simple organic molecule, C2 H4, which can also be represented as H2C=CH2.
    In cannabis, female plants will produce male flowers if not enough ethylene is present, or if too much gibberellic acid is present. The intersex condition is due to a combination of genetic and environemental factors. Some plants will not turn male under the most extreme stress, and some plants, especially stretchy tropical sativas, will turn with no stress at all. It is my belief that the stress of severe inbreeding, compounded over several generations, is responsible for the majority of hermaphrodites in the drug cannabis gene pool (DCG) today.

    Reversal: Treating a female plant with STS in order to collect viable female pollen.

    Selfing: Applying female pollen to the female from which it was collected. Example : selecting a particular Willie Nelson cutting, reversing it, and putting the pollen back on another clone of the same plant. Applying that pollen to a different Willie cutting, or to another strain altogether, is not selfing.

    F0: The parents selected to start a breeding program. Often referred to as P1 and P2, but this is incorrect.

    F1: the first cross between two unrelated parents. The F stands for filial, and refers to the fact that all F1 progeny of the same cross are full brothers and sisters to one another.

    S1: The first selfed generation. Selfing an S1 produces an S2, etc. Anecdotal evidence from Sam_Skunkman indicates that continued selfing to the S3 and S4 produces plants so weak that they must be handled very carefully, “like kittens” in his words.

    R1's (aka Reversed F1's): When feminized pollen is used to pollinate a different female than the pollen donor. R1's will tend to act like a tradional male x female cross, only all female, while S1's appear to have some different properties that are not yet fully understood. Early reports indicatee that S1's are more consistent than R1's on average, but there are many exceptions, and more research is needed.

    BC1: The first backcross generation, ie when an F1 or R1 progeny is crossed back to an F0 parent. Backcrossing can increase the influence of either parent, but continued backcrossing is too much inbreeding, according to both DJ Short and Rezdog, and should be used rarely if at all. One or two backcrosses followed by full-sib mating has beena successful strategy for many breeders, including the creator of Northern Lights.

    These terms can be combined for shortand pedigrees. A second backross, followed by three generations of sib-mating, may be represented as a BC2-F3 generation.




 

budbro18

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Got the Teenage Mutant Ninja DOGs on my hands here. 2/5 are really growin weird.


Heres all of em, look pretty normal from a glance.
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Now heres DOG #2
Self topped herself. First time ive ever seen that.
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Finally set up the flower tent with the 2x 305w bud boss panels.
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Dr.D81

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yea man i have seen some crazy mutations over the years. it looks like it will clone out though.
 

budbro18

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Yeah they usually do but id love plants that auto top at like the 3rd node.

The only things ive seen that dont clone out are leaf mutations. one of my kings kush had random leaf mutations all the time. on fan leaves and sugar leaves, made the buds a little bigger too and had no pattern to where it showed up on which leaf or side or time in veg/flower.

Its almost looked like its fimd itself cause there is still growth coming out of the middle.

we'll see what happens. Its the shortest 3 node plant ive ever had. Looks like i lstd it
 

HydroGp

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Damn SS looking awesome.
I just snapped a couple shots. Yesterdays balls are todays flower. Meaning im still a newb not knowing whats what :) So if you see balls please let me know.
Took 2 clones of all.
Reg Dog small pot soil.
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Fem Dog soil
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Fem Dog dwc 10l
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Fem Dog dwc 60l
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Strange the dwc dogs wont flower. Could it be balls on the stem zoom in?
 

strictly seedleSs

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Thanks Hydro.

Yeah doc, they are in the greenhouse. I dont have a minimum temp thermometer in there. My heaters are set around 70 F so I dont think it drops below 60. I can always work in there in a t-shirt. But a week or two after they were put into the GH, my larger 5600w heater tripped the breaker, and was off for 2 days. It might have dropped as low as 50 F. Hasnt tripped the breaker since, but I had them set around 80 F at first.
 

Dr.D81

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yea your pic look like you have a nice one. i have the stuff to build one i just need to get a spot i am going to be at
 

DST

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they look like they could be the start of balls Hydro. I would pull em off personally:) sounds a bit rude.....
 

budolskie

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well just set the tent back up after a good bleach out, i have turned my light other way to create better air flow through the ducting. also set my new temp controller at 25c and left the light and fans on, gona check tonight to make sure it hasnt went over the 25c then set my heater for over night try keep it around 20c... then i will have my 3 dogs in mainlined for 4 upto now but will be 8 once in new home and a bit time under mh
 

budbro18

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dogs appreciate some cool temps bud, and a low rh

Thats perfect cause it is one dry/cold winter up here and since i switched to leds keeping the room warm while bringing in enough fresh air has been tough.

Glad to hear they shouldnt struggle as much as i thought.
 

budolskie

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that is perfect cos i just checked my room and the new temp controller is bang on like, so will be up and running tomoz afternoon once i been for soil............. happy days
 

ghb

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lots of light and not much water was also how i found they liked things, strange considering the big fat leaves i thought they would transpire more.
 

DST

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I am running at 15c in the veg, max up to about 19c during the day. Flower cab is still hitting around 24 but it's so choka blocka in there I am not surprised. My other tent is also sitting around 15-19 in flower.
 

shishkaboy

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anyone else have n greedy dogs. i thought it was a med/low yeilder but i gave her some more n and she fattend up crazy. still not as green as she should be yet tho
 
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