BC: Comment - Best Pot-Regulation System Already In Place

WHATFG

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From 420 Magazine...

On Dec. 13, the federal government took the first step toward legalizing the sale of non-medical marijuana in Canada with the release of the Federal Task Force on Marijuana Legalization report, which recommends that the retail sale and regulation of marijuana should be handled by the provinces.

The B.C. Government and Service Employees’ Union and the B.C. Private Liquor Store Association formed the Responsible Marijuana Retail Alliance of B.C. in 2015 to work together on a common goal: to see legal, non-medical marijuana warehoused and distributed through the existing Liquor Distribution Branch system, and sold in B.C. along with alcohol in liquor stores.

The alliance agrees that it is the provinces’ responsibility to regulate the sale and distribution of marijuana after it is legalized by the federal government. British Columbia already has an efficient system in place to handle the sale of controlled substances. Our public and private liquor stores are regulated and, in the large majority of cases, have above 90 per cent compliance rates for age verification. Youth in B.C. have a much more difficult time accessing alcohol than tobacco.

The task force also tries to influence the regulatory process by recommending that marijuana not be co-located in stores that sell liquor or tobacco, citing the possibility of promoting co-use of these controlled substances.

We agree with a public-policy approach that discourages co-consumption of marijuana, alcohol and tobacco, but we believe this goal can be achieved in many ways within B.C.’s existing regulated public/private sales and distribution model — possibly through signs, protected point-of-sale areas or a store-within-a-store model.

To date, there is no credible evidence that co-location leads to increased co-use. Gambling services have been available in B.C. bars, lounges and casino venues for years without complaint. Pain-relief medication is widely available alongside cold and allergy treatments without reports of increased co-use.

On the distribution side, the LDB operates a secure network that already transports hundreds of millions of dollars in controlled substances every year. Creating a parallel system would be unnecessarily costly and time-consuming. Funds would be diverted from important public services such as education and health care to duplicate the existing distribution network.

Our two organizations have not taken a stand on the legalization or consumption of non-medical marijuana. With legalization underway, we believe marijuana should be sold in the most socially responsible way possible.

Looking south of the border to Colorado and Washington, once their systems were up and running, tax revenues from marijuana sales exceeded forecasts in both states. This year, marijuana sales in Colorado are on pace to contribute $188 million US to state coffers, to fund education capital construction and health programs.

Profits from B.C. Public Liquor Stores and distribution network contribute more than $880 million annually to education, health care and other necessary public services. These funds help keep other taxes down. The B.C. government could regulate marijuana as it does the liquor industry, with tax revenue for distribution and retail sales approaching that from alcohol over time.

We have a real opportunity ahead of us in B.C. The BCGEU and BCPLSA, through our alliance, are ready to work with our partners at all levels of government to ensure that marijuana legalization benefits our province while reducing risk.

If done properly, with the appropriate regulatory oversight and safeguards in place, legalized marijuana can create jobs and generate public revenue to fund public services.

Stephanie Smith is president of the B.C. Government and Service Employees’ Union. Damian Kettlewell is marijuana spokesperson with the B.C. Private Liquor Store Association.

 

VIANARCHRIS

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Union Weed! fuck off. I should not be forced to go to a liquor store to buy any product except booze. I have 8+ years of sobriety because I DON'T go into liquor stores. Why would they associate a natural, harmless plant with society's biggest scourge, alcohol. Never gonna happen.
 

OldMedUser

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I don't want to see pot distributed thru liquor stores either. I'm a alcoholic that still ties one on once in a blue moon but if I had to go into a booze outlet to score I'd be back at it full time for sure.

It boggles my mind that these "leaders" can't wrap their heads around the benign nature of cannabis compared to booze and tobacco and keep putting it in the same category.

This whole "protect the children" mantra is another red herring to keep pot down. Any kid can score a bag anytime they got the cash and pick up all sorts of other, more dangerous things while they are at it.

I knew Trudeau the 2nd would waffle on his promises and he's doing just what I expected but the sheeple ran to the polls to vote him in on the promise of legal pot. He's a f'ing Liberal and they are just as bad as the Cons when it comes to keeping promises! We won't see it happen for years yet but every dumbass figures it'll be done in the spring. It will be introduced in the legislature in the spring for consideration but there are many hurdles to be jumped before all the laws pertaining to prohibition can be changed. We'll be lucky if pot gets re-legalized before the next election in 2019.

The task force report is just a list of recommendations that the gov't can use or refuse as they see fit and I just know they will ignore most of it and do what their corporate masters dictate they do. I was surprised to see how many sensible recommendations they came up with tho considering who was running the show.

My recommendations are to do your best to not support the LPs as they are not our allies in this fight. They and others are actively lobbying the gov't to maintain control of retail pot and disallow dispensaries or home growing.

Overgrow the gov't! If you are not growing now get into it. It's not that hard to keep yourself in enough pot and there are many like me who will help along the way with advice and encouragement. I haven't bought street pot in 30 years and I'll be damned if I ever give a dime to an LP.

:peace:
 

Ahemait

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Have you plebs not yet realized that the billionaire families will determine the laws regarding marijuana?
Moan and fuss all you like, he who has the gold, makes the rules.

Is that news?
 

Ahemait

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Regardless of the size of the movement, it will always be circumvented by the establishment. Look at...just about every major popular movement in history.
 

The Hippy

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Have you plebs not yet realized that the billionaire families will determine the laws regarding marijuana?
Moan and fuss all you like, he who has the gold, makes the rules.

Is that news?
Well that hasn't worked for them so far in 50 years of the war on drugs...ain't gonna work now either. They are just too greedy to see and know that. We're already here and aren't going away.
 

torontomeds

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Hey ninja face, they do not make the rules, the people make the rules, we have already set our own rules to govern our community, that is the point of the cannabis clubs, that is the point of everything we are doing now, and lets not forget people can rise up.
You clearly do not understand what Cannabis is all about, it is not just some plant we all smoke to get high, it is a representation of things wrong with socity and us on the front lines will never give up until our plant is free, the rich can not control the plant, heck they could not control it when it was just a plant grown in 3rd world nations, how the fuck do you think they can control it now? more weed being grown now then at any point in history.

Go ahead sell it in your booze stores, guess what, I grow my own medicine. To enforce laws on Cannabis is to go to war with the people, imagine they try to shut down the 1000 clubs across the country, they will need an army and it will not go over with us Canadians, guess what ninja face, kids are dieing everyday in Toronto and other cities across the country from Gun and Gang violence, I think going after middle class white people for weed is going to get played out very quickly.
 

gb123

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Have you plebs not yet realized that the billionaire families will determine the laws regarding marijuana?
Moan and fuss all you like, he who has the gold, makes the rules.

Is that news?
used to be (:

until people woke up and actually WON IN COURT

oh ya that feels SO GOOD saying over and over and over again

cheers oh wanna be screw the sick ears! :-P
 

CalyxCrusher

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Regardless of the size of the movement, it will always be circumvented by the establishment. Look at...just about every major popular movement in history.
Yeah, totally, civil rights movement, womens sufferage movement, totally small and didnt pan out............ Take a fucking history class and maybe PASS the fucken thing before opening your mouth to let your usual shit tumble out
 

OGEvilgenius

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Well that hasn't worked for them so far in 50 years of the war on drugs...ain't gonna work now either. They are just too greedy to see and know that. We're already here and aren't going away.
The war on drugs has been extremely successful for those who implemented it.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Yeah, totally, civil rights movement, womens sufferage movement, totally small and didnt pan out............ Take a fucking history class and maybe PASS the fucken thing before opening your mouth to let your usual shit tumble out
Those movements largely have been co-opted by the same people. Feminism was completely hijacked in the 70's by radical communists (although the founders were always radicals like that) who shifted their focus on oppression of the working class (because the news coming from the USSR indicated that communism was a massive failure and that people starved to death en mass, were eating each other etc) to the oppression of women and minorities. Why? Divide and conquer and a change in narrative to continue to push their evil and awful political agenda (which is now very much in play... equality has become equity in the minds of kids brainwashed by schools today and much of my generation too - all these SJWs are using the exact same playbook used by every revolutionary in history... most of them are too stupid to know what they're really doing or what they're supporting, but the leadership sure does...). Have a little read:

http://www.acting-man.com/?p=44361

Peaceful leaders of the civil rights movement like MLK were killed. Replaced with more radicalized versions who were working for the government (cointelpro - black panthers et al). BLM is funded by George Soros, a rich old white dude, FFS. And it's a radical hate movement that's being used to divide and conquer. These people are all totalitarians who want nothing more than to have complete control over everything. Getting people to fight among each other is the best way to do it. Then the leadership of the world at the time, extreme racist LBJ, implemented welfare with conditions deliberately designed to destroy black families. Let me quote him on this:

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years" - LBJ

Sounds exactly like him. He was referencing the wonderful welfare system he created. They actually sent government agents door to door telling black women they could collect welfare if they ditched their husband. And it was a pretty attractive package. And it started to happen. Now almost 80% of black kids come from single families and black communities are worse off than they've been since actual slavery arguably. Kids need both parents, male and female ideally. The people who implemented this policy knew this too. They knew this from various social experiments that have been done, as well as great historical research. Kids raised in daycares in communist countries have overwhelmingly high rates of sociopathy/narcissism et al because they are not getting the proper care they need when very young (which is SUPER intensive hands on, one on one constantly... not tossed in large groups where kids basically raise themselves... to be wolves because kids are naturally a bit narcissistic for survival purposes).
 

CannaReview

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Lobbying at its best, selling weed at liquor stores puts those that don't drink at risk to starting to drink. Selling weed at designated smoke shops keep is safer from kids as then the kids don't associate weed with alcohol.
 
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