Become patient w/no med records???

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CloudyTrichomez401

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Is it possible to become a patient if you have no medical records? I would like to become a patient because I have really bad anxiety and marijuana helps it out. I only smoke a little bit when I need to. It has calmed me down and prevented panic attacks, not that I get them all the time but, I have had a couple and cannabis helps. I will not take any pills or whatever the average Dr would want to put me on. I much rather prefer the safer alternative which is cannabis but, I dont know where to try and get a card without any medical records? I know it sounds kind of unintelligent of me to not have ever gone to the Dr or have anything on paper about it but there must be somewhere i can go? Another thing, I was wondering if rhode island dept of health would sign off on a reccomendation for anxiety because it was not listed in the eligible conditions but, it does say other conditions are subject to approval so i wasn't sure but i think it could pass

Any info is greatly appreciated,
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westtoeast

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NO. . .no no no no. If you can find a dr. who will sign off on you without medical records then they are not credible and are not following the standards set forth by the state. When a doctor signs your certificate he/she is authorizing that review of your records and condition meet criteria for entry. You may have 'anxiety' but unti it is written as a formal diagnosis it is just your opinion. . not a diagnosis. RI does not recognize anxiety as a qualifying condition EVER and so you will not meet and no on ein their right mind should risk their license. It's too tenuous out there for anyone to take this chance.
 
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ricky6991

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Try cannacaredocs.com place in boston. Explain your .situation if anyone help its them.

just anxiety even if signed by doctor they will say no. Had it happen to a friend. They did say he can fight the descicion and help add it to the list.
 
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jayfury

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My buddy has been calling Cannacare for over a week, leaving numerous messages.... Nobody ever answers or calls him back.... Are they still in biz??
 
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ricky6991

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Yeah, few people i know heading up there any day... call the number several times in a row.

just like most buisness things starting up, customer service is good until customers come around normally then it goes to the shitter.
 
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Aceking131

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Dude Idk if i believe in Anxiety, i think its just normal stress of life.. Any normal person has high anxiety and rightfully should in this day and age.. Its part of evolving as a person.. The only treatment for anxiety is self confidence and self worth.. If it were that easy everyone would have a mmj card for anxiety... In RI the medical card is for
Patients in Rhode Island diagnosed with the following illnesses:

Other conditions are subject to approval by the Rhode Island Department of Health.
Nowhere does it say anxiety...
To answer your question thought, I have had basically (aside from general check ups and minor ER visits) no med history in my 23 years on earth. Last summer i had an unfortunate accident that caused a herniated (bulging) disc in my back.. After trying a few treatment options i asked my doctor if marijuana was right for me. He said it was definitely an option and signed on the spot.. Its a matter of whether or not you need it... Dont get me wrong, I believe it should be recreationally legal, but doctors are putting their names on the line to give us the treatment we deserve.. There are so many people in RI who NEED medical marijuana not just want it. Better off trying to become a caregiver or just smoking without the card. Or campaign for marijuana law reform and recreational legalization.. Whatever you do, Good luck and keep blazin..
 
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NoBarriers

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Aceking131 said:
Dude Idk if i believe in Anxiety, i think its just normal stress of life.. Any normal person has high anxiety and rightfully should in this day and age.. Its part of evolving as a person.. The only treatment for anxiety is self confidence and self worth..
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Then be thankful you have never had it..
 
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Aceking131

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Lmao.. I have 2 kids, Lost 2 fathers before the age of 9, stopped my mother from committing suicide, lol nah no anxiety at all -_-.. I have my fair share of anxiety but i have learned to control it and choose to look at the good in life not the bad. I do have anxiety, Im just not naive enough to pretend I'm the only one who stresses about life... Either way medical marijuana is not yet a viable treatment option for personality disorders and is said to amplify them, although there are many conflicting studies.. if you're depressed/anxious about your life, do something about it.. Marijuana will not help you become comfortable with life, it will only mask your problems until the high wears off. Anxiety is a self inflicted disorder. Its up to you to choose whether to perceive things as positive or negative.. Take a second to read and understand the definition of anxiety and maybe you will get my point. Anxiety is real, and I dont mean to undermine your disorder merely trying to give a perspective of someone who has experienced anxiety and is a medical marijuana patient..

Anxiety is an unpleasant state of inner turmoil, often accompanied by nervous behavior, such as pacing back and forth, somatic complaints and rumination.[SUP][2][/SUP] It is the subjectively unpleasant feeling of dread over something unlikely to happen, such as the feeling of imminent death.[SUP][3][/SUP] Anxiety is feeling unrealistic fear, worry, and uneasiness, usually generalized and unfocused.[SUP][4][/SUP] It is often accompanied by restlessness, fatigue, problems in concentration, and muscular tension. Anxiety is not the same as fear, which is felt about something realistically intimidating.[SUP][5][/SUP] Anxiety is not considered to be a normal reaction to a perceived stressor although many feel it occasionally. When anxiety becomes overwhelming and distressing to the sufferer, it may fall under the psychiatric diagnosis of anxiety disorder.[SUP][6][/SUP] Anxiety is not the same as fear. Fear is evoked by a realistic danger and is an appropriate response to a perceived threat, while anxiety is worry or overreaction to a situation that is only subjectively seen as menacing.[SUP][5]

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Aceking131

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and not just that but if you have no medical history then technically you are self diagnosing and medicating your "Anxiety".. See a doctor.. If you need a card you will get it. If you dont, you wont
 
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NoBarriers

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Although all those things are sad and unfortunate and you gettting past all them and moving on is great and a strength that you may have or have found, it still has nothing to do with an anxiety disorder. For people truly suffering from it there is no just getting over it and you saying to is insensitive and shows that you truly dont understand mental illness. I'll say it again, although you may have had stress and misfortune in your short life be glad you don't suffer from anxiety or panic attacks.
 
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Aceking131

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I have suffered from anxiety and panic attacks but at some point you have to realize enough is enough.. Life is what you make it.. You are in control.. Not a substance, or chemical.. You can try to rationalize your faults and negativity. You can blame your shortcomings on whatever illnesses or disorders you have but either way, You're going to die.. That is a promise. So you can either enjoy the time you have, or not.. The choice is yours and yours alone.. You can only make excuses for yourself for so long, until you come to terms with the fact that you are in control of your own destiny and you get out of life what you put in..
 
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CloudyTrichomez401

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Thanks for all of the feedback people. I guess i just wanted to see if they would make an exception for anxiety because it does say...other conditions are subject to approval by RI DOH ...but i was just looking to get a card to start growing again because it is a little passionate hobby of mine but i guess i will just have to wait until i am 21 to become a caregiver...anyone been in the dispensary how would i get a job in there ? can you even get in the building without any card lol patient or CG ? or how could i go about growing and selling to them privately even though i know they lab test there meds so you would have to pull some A grade stuff which i believe i am capable of but if you do end up getting in and they say your product qualifies and they will buy it from you, i heard they make you fill out tax information and all of that stuff? how does that work, you just file taxes saying that you sold marijuana and the IRS or feds wont take your money? sounds sketchy to me, but i want to learn more about it and get my facts straight before going off of what he say she say stuff that i think i know now any feedback on that i would love to hear about thanks for posting on the thread already though
 
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westtoeast

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CloudyTrichomez401 said:
Thanks for all of the feedback people. I guess i just wanted to see if they would make an exception for anxiety because it does say...other conditions are subject to approval by RI DOH ...but i was just looking to get a card to start growing again because it is a little passionate hobby of mine but i guess i will just have to wait until i am 21 to become a caregiver...anyone been in the dispensary how would i get a job in there ?

This is why the MMJ program and those who are certifying are under constant fear ! Because you just wan tto grow?? Do you realize If you went and got a card under some sort of false or unverified diagnosis that you are jeopardizing the providers who are certifying.
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CloudyTrichomez401

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i wasn't trying to get a card under a false diagnosis if your read my earlier post you clearly would have recognized i was trying to find out if they make exceptions for anxiety even though yes i would like a card so i can grow i wouldn't have been faking anything and i am sure the mmj program and those certifying are under constant fear because it is still federally illegal 100% of the time even if you are legit in your state but i am also willing to bet that a very high % of people with cards for pain are just drug dealers trying to be legit which your trying to use me as an example of but i was trying to see if anxiety qualified so it wouldn't be a reason for anyone to fear if it did qualify as a condition but it doesn't so i have to wait to be a CG but i'm not going to just get a card to grow if that were the case id be in the emergency room crying about a back pain right now then take those records and try and get a card but i'm not because i'm not a fraud i didn't take anything you posted personal i am just protecting my reputation because i dont want people reading your post and thinking i am a fraud
 
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Anabolic1979

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Even the more lackadaisical places certifying patients are not giving cards to everyone who goes.. If you don't have any medical records or for some other reason the doctor doesn't feel right about treating you with cannabis then they won't hesitate to deny you. I saw it when I went.. The younger guy( in his early 20's ) before me was denied because his blood pressure was a little high and he didn't have medical records either. He pled with the doctor as he was leaving her office about how he drove 3 hours from CT to come there and begged to have his blood pressure taken again. The doctor told him " you can have it taken again but it's not going to change my mind". My cousin went to the same place a week later and saw a couple people turned away. Most of the doctors are getting better at tell who is legitimate and those who are not. Remember a lot of the places require fee before you see a doctor and will keep a good portion even if they deny you, so there not just handing out MMC to any and everyone.
 
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CloudyTrichomez401

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I am just going to have to wait a couple months to become a CG because there is nothing wrong with me that qualifies. I was not going to try and fake anything. that's the wrong thing to do. but that doesn't mean I will stop blazing because I love cannabis :bigjoint: lol.
 
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Aceking131

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CloudyTrichomez401 said:
I am just going to have to wait a couple months to become a CG because there is nothing wrong with me that qualifies. I was not going to try and fake anything. that's the wrong thing to do. but that doesn't mean I will stop blazing because I love cannabis :bigjoint: lol.
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Ehh this thread wont be great for your rep lol... That type of mentality is what will get our states program shut down..
 
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CloudyTrichomez401

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come on, like everyone on RIU doesnt agree lol, im not going to hide that fact i love the cannabis plant to act professional granted there is a time and a place, but then again im not doing the wrong thing which would be to fake an illness to get a card to grow,so i dont see anything wrong with the post. others may see otherwise...and life goes on ...
 
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