Beginners looking to prepare for Guerrilla Grow.

Hello Roll It Up community, I'm a young up-and-comer looking to begin a guerrilla grow. I have researched just about as much as I can about general/guerrilla growing for a while now. I understand that it's going to be a lot of work, requiring a lot of time and effort.

I wanted to sort of, if I could, go through this process with you. Just to make sure I'm doing things the right way, and setting my plants up properly. I'm only partnered with one other friend, and we are still in the beginning stages of planning our grow. As for location, we have found a VERY secluded area in a forest. It typically rains often, and being that there is a lot of ground water in the area we shouldn't have to worry about watering as much, while still making sure they have the proper water. The soil is okay, usually very moist, but we are planning on digging holes and using organic nutrients anyway, so that shouldn't be much of an issue either. We plan to start with a mixture of Fox Farms Ocean Forest, with maybe around 30% of original soil. We also plan to include bat guano, bone meal, blood meal, kelp, perlite, and vermiculite.

We will check the soil in the area for too much clay or sand, or anything like that, as well as testing pH. We are growing in groups of 4 or 5 plants, spread out over a large area.

For seeds, we're looking at a few different strains, so we're definitely open to suggestions here more than anywhere. Preferably very mold resistant because of our areas high humidity, and forgiving to new growers.

As for nutrients, we aren't exactly sure how to use them effectively. Of course we need them, but do they come pre-mixed, how much are we supposed to be using, should be mixing with a gallon of water or just a small bit? So on, so forth. We know these plants need love, and nutrients are big part of that after that first month or so goes by.

So, any advice, especially about seeds and the general guerrilla growing process would be extremely helpful. We were planning showing some pictures throughout to get better help. Should be fun, thanks!
 

SenorBrownWater

Well-Known Member
growing herb is a great way to turn friends into enemies ...
if your not lugging water..i would recommend jack's classic or maxsea..these are dry chemical powdered nutes...start with 1/4 teaspoon per gallon and build up from there...
one of the best things you can do is find user uncle ben's rants about nutes...i so wish i had read that before i started growing...
if you are lugging water you might want to use granules...(i don't use these and i don't like these.....so i can't offer any help..)
the soil can be too wet as well as too dry..if its mucky (tm) then you might want to use grow bags or smart pots...
is there pests in your area? some organic amendments may draw them to your site.....i know blood meal can...
anyways...welcome and good luck!
 

BleedsGreen

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You said the area is moist all the time then you will have problems if you dig holes as the water table is probably very shallow there, the roots will grow down into the water table and drown your plants. I actually made a fake raised bed in an area like that and had great success after having the plants drown the year before. Lot of work in making it but well worth it if the seclusion is great.
 

peacenikchick

Active Member
To pick apart ur plan so far, ^ these guys are right. Firstly, being partnered with anybody is not a good idea. You might think somebodys solid but until you're in a pinch, u never really know. No offense to ur person. Also blood meal is bad where I am, skunks and bears and other animals will dig up ur plant looking for it. And the soil being too wet is not good. Dig a hole a foot or two down and see if it fills with water. This would be bad. Mj plants are far more likely to survive a drought as opposed to a flood
 

SenorBrownWater

Well-Known Member
even if his is aces...and someone else rips them...you always wonder if it was him...
it's cool to pool resources...but it's best to find your own spot...
 

Randm

Active Member
You said the area is moist all the time then you will have problems if you dig holes as the water table is probably very shallow there, the roots will grow down into the water table and drown your plants. I actually made a fake raised bed in an area like that and had great success after having the plants drown the year before. Lot of work in making it but well worth it if the seclusion is great.
I'll second this one. I had smart pots sitting on damp ground and lost several to getting water logged last year. Raise em up off the ground with rocks, wood, old pallets, whatever you can find.
 

doowmd

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Haters:
Go ahead w/ ur partner and fuck the haters OP. If the crops come up missing, even one out of the 4 or 5 u mentioned you'd have spread out then next year I'd go it alone if possible. But if u trust him u trust him. fuck it. A big enough op requires AT least 2 ppl.


Soil:
Onto ur amendments: I know it sounds good to add all that shit to your holes, but ime if your a noob the best thing to do is go w/ a bagged organic soil and peat moss combined w/ the native soil.

Like some previous posters said: the blood meal will def attract predators and they will dig up your plant if they think there's something to eat under it!
And that's just the start of what can go wrong when you go trying to mix your own admendments in. I'm not saying it aint the best way: to mak your own up, I'm just saying it aint for beginers and the simpler way is just to mix the soil as stated and use soluble ferts like I mention below.

Soil drainage:
You can't tell how a hole's going to drain in the winter. Water will stand in a hole in the winter where it wouldnt in the summer. The surrounding vegetatin is using ALOT less water during the winter months and therefore the water is wicked away from the hole alot slower than it would b in the spring/summer.

I had a landscaper on here tell me this not long after I first came on and was worried about drainage. If you put about a 30/30/40 mix of native soil/peatmoss/bagsoil u should be good on drainage. And if drainage ends up being a prob u can dig drainage ditches away from the plants.


Nutes:
About the nutes themselves. As previously stated maxsea is one of the best all around nutes u can get. It mixes into ur water and lasts the whole grow! It comes in veg and bloom formula
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[/h][h=3]Maxsea Seaweed All Purpose Fertilizer 16-16-16 ~ 24 oz.[/h][h=3]Maxsea Seaweed Blossom Booster Fertilzer 3-20-20 ~ 24 oz.[/h]

Another, more affordable but definitely hated on soluble nute is miracle grow. They have a tiple 16 formula and a bloom formula that I've used w/ good results despite all the negativity it receives on here.
 
growing herb is a great way to turn friends into enemies ...
if your not lugging water..i would recommend jack's classic or maxsea..these are dry chemical powdered nutes...start with 1/4 teaspoon per gallon and build up from there...
one of the best things you can do is find user uncle ben's rants about nutes...i so wish i had read that before i started growing...
if you are lugging water you might want to use granules...(i don't use these and i don't like these.....so i can't offer any help..)
the soil can be too wet as well as too dry..if its mucky (tm) then you might want to use grow bags or smart pots...
is there pests in your area? some organic amendments may draw them to your site.....i know blood meal can...
anyways...welcome and good luck!
Yea but we've been homies forever, have done lots of hours of manual labor and have countless memories together. And better yet he doesnt even smoke. I know i can trust the guy, hes always been there for me and he isnt the type to rip, we never been about robbing. Its not that we dont want to lug water, its that since the area is a swamp in which it often rains and there are plenty of lakes/streams nearby and the grow spot would be on an island, would we have to water? How many inches of rainwater do you think mmj plants need weekly? plus i heard they really like it. I will look up the uncle bens post, thanks! Thinking about using burlap sacks..they are portable, and 55 gallons. As for soil we are gunna run with some basic organic soil, and possibly maxsea. Raccoons/Armadillos/Skunks are about the only land predators around here, and some coyote. We plan to protect them with a bailing wire fence surrounding a few trees Thanks for the input!

You said the area is moist all the time then you will have problems if you dig holes as the water table is probably very shallow there, the roots will grow down into the water table and drown your plants. I actually made a fake raised bed in an area like that and had great success after having the plants drown the year before. Lot of work in making it but well worth it if the seclusion is great.
The seclusion will be optimum. We are hiking a few miles into an area that has no hunting allowed, furthermore since it is in a swamp and we must travel by boat and this particular area is limited to small motors only. no hunting is allowed either and it is public property. We are debating some type of container, to keep grow spots variable. But we will dig test holes to check water table. Thanks for the feeback!

To pick apart ur plan so far, ^ these guys are right. Firstly, being partnered with anybody is not a good idea. You might think somebodys solid but until you're in a pinch, u never really know. No offense to ur person. Also blood meal is bad where I am, skunks and bears and other animals will dig up ur plant looking for it. And the soil being too wet is not good. Dig a hole a foot or two down and see if it fills with water. This would be bad. Mj plants are far more likely to survive a drought as opposed to a flood
Yea yea, were just ignoring that advice so far :bigjoint:. Gunna go with a basic simple soil for ease of use. Gunna pre-dig holes in all spots before, debating containers. Thanks for the info!

even if his is aces...and someone else rips them...you always wonder if it was him...
it's cool to pool resources...but it's best to find your own spot...
Noone is ripping these...theyll never get to em **fingers crossed** You only get out what you put in. Treating this as a business with the sole purpose of getting our friends good weed for a reasonable price will pay off in the long run other than ripping. We both know that. Thanks for the concern!

I'll second this one. I had smart pots sitting on damp ground and lost several to getting water logged last year. Raise em up off the ground with rocks, wood, old pallets, whatever you can find.
gunna keep that in mind, hoping to find an area suitably off of the ground. Thanks for the response!

Haters:
Go ahead w/ ur partner and fuck the haters OP. If the crops come up missing, even one out of the 4 or 5 u mentioned you'd have spread out then next year I'd go it alone if possible. But if u trust him u trust him. fuck it. A big enough op requires AT least 2 ppl.

Soil:
Onto ur amendments: I know it sounds good to add all that shit to your holes, but ime if your a noob the best thing to do is go w/ a bagged organic soil and peat moss combined w/ the native soil.

Like some previous posters said: the blood meal will def attract predators and they will dig up your plant if they think there's something to eat under it!
And that's just the start of what can go wrong when you go trying to mix your own admendments in. I'm not saying it aint the best way: to mak your own up, I'm just saying it aint for beginers and the simpler way is just to mix the soil as stated and use soluble ferts like I mention below.

Soil drainage:
You can't tell how a hole's going to drain in the winter. Water will stand in a hole in the winter where it wouldnt in the summer. The surrounding vegetatin is using ALOT less water during the winter months and therefore the water is wicked away from the hole alot slower than it would b in the spring/summer.

I had a landscaper on here tell me this not long after I first came on and was worried about drainage. If you put about a 30/30/40 mix of native soil/peatmoss/bagsoil u should be good on drainage. And if drainage ends up being a prob u can dig drainage ditches away from the plants.


Nutes:
About the nutes themselves. As previously stated maxsea is one of the best all around nutes u can get. It mixes into ur water and lasts the whole grow! It comes in veg and bloom formula



Maxsea Seaweed All Purpose Fertilizer 16-16-16 ~ 24 oz.

Maxsea Seaweed Blossom Booster Fertilzer 3-20-20 ~ 24 oz.



Another, more affordable but definitely hated on soluble nute is miracle grow. They have a tiple 16 formula and a bloom formula that I've used w/ good results despite all the negativity it receives on here.
Im screaming fuck the haters man we gunna make this shake.
taking the advice on the basic organic soil. Will be trouble free and cheaper for our first season. Even a meager yield would suffice for what we plan to do with it. Gunna take that and make a mix with native soil. Looking at the maxsea ferts and that looks like the best choice. I also thing there is somewhere around here that i can get them. Thanks for all your input man!

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Only 7 replies but ive learned alot.
Going with an organic bagsoil/native mix.
Maxsea ferts. There is a local feed store in which i can get pretty much any NPK ratio of granule nutes if that would be better?
As for holes we will test for the water table and do a pH test on the native soil. If it seems that drainage or high water table will be a problem we will switch to containers. possibly burlap sacks.

No feedback on seeds, dont know if aforementioned but how about Sensi Seeds Guerilla Gusto?
Thanks for all the help guys! Roll one up!
 
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