splifchris
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Some things have to be believed to be seen....
Belief Without Evidence WTF?
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ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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thats silly , i can see my mum everyday have conversation with her i can reach out and touch her why would i need anymore evidence ? everyone else around me confirms that what im seeing is actually real ,as they allso, see ,touch and can hear my mum . the same cant be said about your god .
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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well no, i dont believe in any god so i dont need to prove my belief as i dont have a belief in something , you believe in a god but cant prove it exists .
olylifter420
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you are a man of logic and always request evidence do you not? when you were a child how did you know she really was your mum? You would have confused your mumther with the babysitter or your sister, or aunt right? Did you ask all of them for evidence? As a child were you not taken out to the stores and other populated areas where you could have interacted with other people, confusing those people with your true parents because you also interact with them as you do with your parents. You talk to them, you exchange things and occasionally touch hands, all the same you do with your parents, aunts, uncles, siblings. Your logic is really stupid brother and you are really stupid too.
Finshaggy
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We actually do confirm it with her everyday of childhood. Doesn't everyone here CALL their mom, "MOM". And doesn't she reply?? THis confirms it for us for years on end.
I'm not arguing. I'm just saying we have confirmation of our moms.
Sativas got it. Its not the atheist job to to prove the non-existentence of god. He just wonders what scientific, philosophical, or physical evidence you have support a soley imaginary or intangible being.
But as for evidence against god. pick up a biology book, every time the bible and it disagree we can test it with science and see which one is correct. <- and to refute this statement one could say that with the new and present knowledge coming out about our ever expanding universe that the laws of science/ physics do not apply to every situation equally and therefore science cannot be taken as total truth. Agnostics have the best stance on the issue. They recognize their lack of understanding of a situation and are content with just being.
But as for evidence against god. pick up a biology book, every time the bible and it disagree we can test it with science and see which one is correct. <- and to refute this statement one could say that with the new and present knowledge coming out about our ever expanding universe that the laws of science/ physics do not apply to every situation equally and therefore science cannot be taken as total truth. Agnostics have the best stance on the issue. They recognize their lack of understanding of a situation and are content with just being.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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ou not? when you were a child how did you know she really was your mum? You would have confused your mumther with the babysitter or your sister, or aunt right? Did you ask all of them for evidence? As a child were you not taken out to the stores and other populated areas where you could have interacted with other people, confusing those people with your true parents because you also interact with them as you do with your parents. You talk to them, you exchange things and occasionally touch hands, all the same you do with your parents, aunts, uncles, siblings. Your logic is really stupid brother and you are really stupid too.[/QUOTE]
LMFAO you cant be serious ? animals can even distinguish parents from others
LMFAO you cant be serious ? animals can even distinguish parents from others
blazinkill504
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this right here shows me the lack of brain power you're displayin right now. i never said i believed in a god or that i didnt, but since im comin at your for bein a hypocrite you automatically assume i do. you just said i dont believe in any god....what do they call belief without evidence? hmm faith so you're goin off faith that god doesnt exist seein as you yourself have no proof. im not tryin to be a dick, but if you cant step your debate up its not even worth me respondin anymore
blazinkill504
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so my question is why do believers have to prove somethin but athiests dont? agnostic is where i fall cause i see it this way. NOBODY on this earth knows why we are here so im not gonna sit here and say i know how the fuck it is when thats not the case
Finshaggy
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You call you're mom "Mom" and it confirms who she is. Then yes you ask her who the other people are, and her confirmation of "Aunt" "Babysitter" "Grandma" "Grandpa" "Teacher" are evidence enough for you to believe that is who they are. And other people become trustworthy enough to define your world to you also. But Your mom is the basic one.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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you really dont get it do you , its so simple a child could understand it . i DONT BELIEVE is different to I BELIEVE , i lack the belief in your god so there is no BELIEF WITHOUT EVIDENCE because i freakin LACK BELIEF , how much simpler can one make it ?
Give me proof that their is a man who can breath in outerspace with no clothes on. or proof against it. Not possible for a finite being, but does that mean you shouldn't be able to use reasoning to understand the situation. U understand we need oxygen (very few people can convert nitrogen after 80% o2 loss) to breath. you understand there is no oxygen in space. you understand a man cant breathe in space without added help. All i am saying is that many religious people ignore contradictory facts that go against their religious texts. If your religious text is scientifically wrong and it is what defines god, well then seems that it has the potential to be wrong about that to.
splifchris
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What do you believe in???
Finshaggy
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He would be different than us in the aspect of breathing, but I can see your point.
What if space is just a giant ocean, planets and suns are the molecules of water, and solid stuffs. What if there are giant fish and one day the milky way is just going to be a water drop, in the flow of a giant fishes tail.
We can't understand what will, or won't be living in space. But there's not a god that created the universe in the order stated in the bible.
I don't care what you believe about earth or god, this planet was not the most important thing he made. He did not balance out the universe perfectly simply for earth. I do not believe in a creator god, but the one in the bible isn't real. because the stars weren't as simple as "Let there be light" then the Earth filled up the rest of the 5 days...What the fuck. No, that didn't happen.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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i DONT , i lack the belief in any god .
splifchris
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Where do you think life comes from
Finshaggy
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The ground. Mostly Carbon and Water, bonded in a way that work with electricity, and strives to power itself(eat).
And plants are a manifestation of evaporation through solid materials.
blazinkill504
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you're right dude what im sayin is soo simple a child could understand it. too bad you're blinded by hypocrisy to see what im sayin. it makes sense tho cause you dont read what i say because if you did you woulda got that i dont believe or dis-believe.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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im not sure , there certainly is no evidence that a god created it .