BENNIE'S 'V' STERILE

GrowerGoneWild

GrowerGoneWild

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bradburry said:
someone told me that there no such thing as full organic hydro?? idk
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The only "real" organic hydroponics is aquaponics.

The bottle organic solutions are not like regular organics like in soil. The bottled stuff still needs salts to make it work in your solution.

I like to use the organic stuff, its alot easier on everybody's lungs...
 
bradburry

bradburry

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GrowerGoneWild said:
The only "real" organic hydroponics is aquaponics.

The bottle organic solutions are not like regular organics like in soil. The bottled stuff still needs salts to make it work in your solution.

I like to use the organic stuff, its alot easier on everybody's lungs...
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true dat....<<<Im feeling abit american god damit amen.lol
 
Clown Baby

Clown Baby

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I subscribe to the KISS philosophy.

IMO hydros going to be easiest with a sterile res. You don't have to waste money on fancy products, either. Don't waste your money on h2o2, dont waste your money on DM Zone (copper sulfate and bleach).

You can use the clorox bleach in your mommas laundry room. Here's a good read.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bleach-instead-of-h2o2.327967/page-10

Beneficials are good in theory. But i dont think the actual efficacy of these overpriced "great white" products are worth the hassle or money.

my .02
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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GrowerGoneWild said:
I agree..

I have a few non MJ plants that are in DWC and RDWC. No added sterilization other than existing chloramines in the water and they have survived for many years.

If you're having root problems its because somethings wrong with the basics, not because you need bennies.
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So you guys dont believe there are any benefits to adding benies for anything other than root issues? As this is my first time using them I have no ideal. As for the cost, if brewing it, its cheap. I can make a litre last almost a year at $35. But again I'm not sure of the benefits. Roots are white and very healthy but they may have been like this without the tea.
 
GrowerGoneWild

GrowerGoneWild

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waterdawg said:
So you guys dont believe there are any benefits to adding benies for anything other than root issues? As this is my first time using them I have no ideal. As for the cost, if brewing it, its cheap. I can make a litre last almost a year at $35. But again I'm not sure of the benefits. Roots are white and very healthy but they may have been like this without the tea.
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No.. I've said before that I have dumped teas in before but not for bacterial or fungi benefits. The teas were kelp and seaweed based so they had minerals, and hormones. I'd even use alfalfa teas for triacontanol content however I like to keep my res simple. I would add teas if they had compounds unique for teas, but not for microbe content.

Where I'm at they literally give away compost tea, ewc tea, kelp teas, all you have to do is bring a container. Whatever I cant apply to the soil part of the grow, the little bit left over can be dumped into the hydro system, you cant let the tea sit.. and since I'm using a smart pot fabric containers when the soil is fully wet, it just leaks out to the sides and gets wasted..
 
esinohio

esinohio

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waterdawg said:
Yes it is, as is pretty much everything here lol. Thats why I try it for myself lol.
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GrowerGoneWild said:
I agree..

I have a few non MJ plants that are in DWC and RDWC. No added sterilization other than existing chloramines in the water and they have survived for many years.

If you're having root problems its because somethings wrong with the basics, not because you need bennies.
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I think early on I got into using the bennies as a basic protection against me. New growers are the plants worst enemy usually and I was no exception early on. So the bennies saved me from errant light leaks in my res and those temperature fluctuations I had around summer and winter. Just like you said, my basics were not covered properly and I had problems.

Flash forward a few years now and I've learned a ton and my environment is setup perfectly. Maybe I have no real reason to be using them now except for habit??? I wonder if they use any bennies in large scale food production hydro or large scale pot hydro setups? Or would that even be a fair comparison since a lot can change when you scale things up?
 
bradburry

bradburry

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this is is all good info and i find myself swaying to the sterile side .

im still waiting on someone to say were all idiots though.lol
 
bradburry

bradburry

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Clown Baby said:
I subscribe to the KISS philosophy.

IMO hydros going to be easiest with a sterile res. You don't have to waste money on fancy products, either. Don't waste your money on h2o2, dont waste your money on DM Zone (copper sulfate and bleach).

You can use the clorox bleach in your mommas laundry room. Here's a good read.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bleach-instead-of-h2o2.327967/page-10

Beneficials are good in theory. But i dont think the actual efficacy of these overpriced "great white" products are worth the hassle or money.

my .02
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is the clorox what u use ......if im gonna use bleach what should say on the ingredients.....some bleaches have other stuff in
 
bradburry

bradburry

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waterdawg

waterdawg

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Clown Baby said:
I subscribe to the KISS philosophy.

IMO hydros going to be easiest with a sterile res. You don't have to waste money on fancy products, either. Don't waste your money on h2o2, dont waste your money on DM Zone (copper sulfate and bleach).

You can use the clorox bleach in your mommas laundry room. Here's a good read.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/bleach-instead-of-h2o2.327967/page-10

Beneficials are good in theory. But i dont think the actual efficacy of these overpriced "great white" products are worth the hassle or money.

my .02
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I dont get the price thing! I will spend by all estimates about $30 for the year running benies, I guess there are some expensive products huh lol. Again its not hurting and I did run H2O2 before this so way cheaper and skin doesn't turn white lol.
 
jijiandfarmgang

jijiandfarmgang

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Never heard of bennies on a traditional commercial scale hydroponics system, but they do use chlorine. Yeah you can use bleach, but even if you measure correctly that doesn't mean your doing it correctly. Its kind of confusing. I was thinking about doing a write up on it.

All this talk about bennies and sterile being unnecessary makes me question it though. Like said above, when I was a noob in hydro I pretty much did everything wrong lol, and guess what I was slimed. Using stupid additives that were organic, light leaks, low do, high temps, loooong time in between reservoir change outs.

- Jiji
 
bradburry

bradburry

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jijiandfarmgang said:
Never heard of bennies on a traditional commercial scale hydroponics system, but they do use chlorine. Yeah you can use bleach, but even if you measure correctly that doesn't mean your doing it correctly. Its kind of confusing. I was thinking about doing a write up on it.

All this talk about bennies and sterile being unnecessary makes me question it though. Like said above, when I was a noob in hydro I pretty much did everything wrong lol, and guess what I was slimed. Using stupid additives that were organic, light leaks, low do, high temps, loooong time in between reservoir change outs.

- Jiji
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iv just read that plants up take chlorine ?idk
 
waterdawg

waterdawg

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Wish I could wait between res changes! I'm now having to do it every 5 days, at that the res is down almost 3/4's and pump is starting cavitate a bit. Res is 115 litres! My roots have gone down the drain and are now taking over the lower res, i can see this becoming an issue lol.
 
GrowerGoneWild

GrowerGoneWild

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Ugh.. I dont care much for chlorine, or chlorides, eventually that ends up in your plants and in my opinion lowers quality. And you have to keep dosing the res. Yes I understand that other corrosive, chemicals are used to control PH etc.. I gotta draw the line somewhere. Seems like I had alot less problems too when I stopped using sodium thiosulfate to neutralize chloramines. And its cheaper not to use it. Could have been noob technique back in the day but who knows?..

The only method I find acceptable for running a sterile res is an inline UV sterilizer. But since I'm not concerned with pathogens and I understand that roots should have a defense system in the rizosphere there should be no need for one.
 
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