Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the US

tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
When there is a viable candidate who actually supports it.
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Way too simplistic.

You never take into consideration the polarized opposition.

61% support legalized weed. Is it legal? Will it be legal soon? 5 years? 10 years?
15 years? when?

60% support single payer (according to you). You see it on the horizon?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Way too simplistic.

You never take into consideration the polarized opposition.

61% support legalized weed. Is it legal? Will it be legal soon? 5 years? 10 years?
15 years? when?

60% support single payer (according to you). You see it on the horizon?
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It's impossible until it isn't. Weed is legal now in some form in the majority of States.

I firmly believe that single payer health care is possible when We the People unite behind a party committed to making it happen.

I believe this could begin to happen as soon as 22 months from now, and definitely in 46 months.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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ttystikk said:
It's impossible until it isn't. Weed is legal now in some form in the majority of States.

I firmly believe that single payer health care is possible when We the People unite behind a party committed to making it happen.

I believe this could begin to happen as soon as 22 months from now, and definitely in 46 months.
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Something has to happen.

I'm a bit pessimistic about it being anything good.

The current regime isn't big on planning, there could be a decade of clean up just to get back to where we were.
And they still have 35-40% approval.

You ever ask a Trump wing nut about single payer?

They act like it's straight from hell. Or Karl Marx if they read a book sometime in the last 20 years.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Something has to happen.

I'm a bit pessimistic about it being anything good.

The current regime isn't big on planning, there could be a decade of clean up just to get back to where we were.
And they still have 35-40% approval.

You ever ask a Trump wing nut about single payer?

They act like it's straight from hell. Or Karl Marx if they read a book sometime in the last 20 years.
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My hopeful expectation is that enough of the right wing in this country will realize that the Republican Party has been using them for the sole benefit of the rich that they'll be on board for an issues based candidacy in the next election.

In order for that to happen, this administration has to continue making things worse. It is something they have a unique talent for...
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
My hopeful expectation is that enough of the right wing in this country will realize that the Republican Party has been using them for the sole benefit of the rich that they'll be on board for an issues based candidacy in the next election.

In order for that to happen, this administration has to continue making things worse. It is something they have a unique talent for...
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It works, then eight to ten years later they forget, and need to be reminded again.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
It works, then eight to ten years later they forget, and need to be reminded again.
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Sadly you're right.

I fell like all we're doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the Ship of State called Titanic as it heads for the next Great Crash.

And the Republican band played on; this week's tune being 'repeal Dodd-Frank!'
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
It works, then eight to ten years later they forget, and need to be reminded again.
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Funny how our grandparents passed away and we repeat the same stupid mistakes that got us the Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression? I'm certain it's not a coincidence.

I'm afraid this upcoming October could be ugly.
 
Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
Funny how our grandparents passed away and we repeat the same stupid mistakes that got us the Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression? I'm certain it's not a coincidence.

I'm afraid this upcoming October could be ugly.
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Good, it will seal their fate the following year. We'll pick up the pieces and start over again:wall:
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
Good, it will seal their fate the following year. We'll pick up the pieces and start over again:wall:
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I'm afraid the mess will be much, much bigger this time. Last time, millions of people lost everything and went hungry. Fuck, THAT happened as recently as 2008 and we watched while the banksters got bailouts and homeowners got kicked out into the street! I keep asking what it will take for Americans to figure out how badly we've been screwed?

Repealing Glass-Steagal, eviscerating the SEC, muzzling the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and letting the Wall Street investment banks off the hook is never going to come back and bite us in the ass, is it? I mean, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?!
 
Justin-case

Justin-case

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ttystikk said:
I'm afraid the mess will be much, much bigger this time. Last time, millions of people lost everything and went hungry. Fuck, THAT happened as recently as 2008 and we watched while the banksters got bailouts and homeowners got kicked out into the street! I keep asking what it will take for Americans to figure out how badly we've been screwed?

Repealing Glass-Steagal, eviscerating the SEC, muzzling the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and letting the Wall Street investment banks off the hook is never going to come back and bite us in the ass, is it? I mean, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?!
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But... it's baseball season.


 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Way too simplistic.

You never take into consideration the polarized opposition.

61% support legalized weed. Is it legal? Will it be legal soon? 5 years? 10 years?
15 years? when?

60% support single payer (according to you). You see it on the horizon?
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The problem is not public support, it's accurate political representation. 60% is a strong majority, so why don't Democratic politicians show public support for things like legalizing marijuana or adopting single payer? Heidkamp stated publicly she doesn't support a single payer system because of the national debt. Yet she supported Trumps bombing of Syria at a few hundred million dollars. She's shown herself to be just as corrupt as any sitting Republican. She believes there's a blank check to fight offensive wars against countries that never attacked us but we have to be fiscally conservative when it comes to providing universal healthcare for Americans.. That is absolutely shameful.

We attain these things through actual representation by removing the financial influence from corporations in politics.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
In Louisville?
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Coors Field in Denver, baby! Where the balls fly out of the stadium OVER the scoreboard!

I was in left center outfield and I was getting shelled all afternoon. It was a classic slugfest. The Rockies even won the game, lol Best ballgame I've ever attended, hands down.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
The problem is not public support, it's accurate political representation. 60% is a strong majority, so why don't Democratic politicians show public support for things like legalizing marijuana or adopting single payer? Heidkamp stated publicly she doesn't support a single payer system because of the national debt. Yet she supported Trumps bombing of Syria at a few hundred million dollars. She's shown herself to be just as corrupt as any sitting Republican. She believes there's a blank check to fight offensive wars against countries that never attacked us but we have to be fiscally conservative when it comes to providing universal healthcare for Americans.. That is absolutely shameful.

We attain these things through actual representation by removing the financial influence from corporations in politics.
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And that's the ONLY way we'll attain them, nevermind keep them.

Citizen's United is the worst thing that's ever happened to our country and it didn't even come at the hands of a foreign power.

Rome fell because of internal corruption, too. We are not immune, and we sure as hell haven't proven ourselves to be any smarter.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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LSD-25 said:
@ttystikk "I hope fascist police raid your grow and best the shit out of you while hauling you off to prison." this is what this POS said to me after I jokingly threatened Antifa with spider mites.. I wonder if this half-narc ever called the cops on anyone's grow.. uuummmhhhhh.. I'm ignoring this POS and i suggest EVERYONE on this site does the same for security reasons..
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I didn't vote for the fascists, UNLIKE YOU.

Cry some more, lil Snowflake!

Go to your safe place, won't hurt my feelings. Have you noticed all the other people who feel the same way about you as I do?

Grow up. If you can.
 
LSD-25

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ttystikk said:
Go to your safe place, won't hurt my feelings. Have you noticed all the other people who feel the same way about you as I do?
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go to my safe place? YOUR feelings? dude listen to yourself.. your talking for other people. you sound like a pregnant lady... hahahahahahaha!!!! funny.. shut your NARC ass up.. go call the cops on someones grow narc-boy.. @ttystikk "I hope fascist police raid your grow and best the shit out of you while hauling you off to prison." SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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LSD-25 said:
go to my safe place? YOUR feelings? dude listen to yourself.. your talking for other people. you sound like a pregnant lady... hahahahahahaha!!!! funny.. shut your NARC ass up.. go call the cops on someones grow narc-boy.. @ttystikk "I hope fascist police raid your grow and best the shit out of you while hauling you off to prison." SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Meltdown!

Can't debate like an adult so you have to start name-calling...

Melting snowflake alert!

Cry me a river is rising to flood stage!

BWAHAHAHA!
 
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