Best 1:1 THC/CBD strain?

I grow a funky pheno of AK-47 that regularly tests at 10% THC, and 8% CBD. I like it a lot, fruity funky dense as rocks. Helps a ton with the pain, a smooth and tasty strain, but something about it, I can't really toke on her all the time, unappealing in some undescribable way. The oil I make from it though, I love all day long, super clear and clean effect with fruity floral taste.

Clone only in NM as far as I'm aware.

st0wandgrow said:

I have tried it. It's a very relaxing high. Definitely a night time smoke. It provided pretty good pain relief for arthritic bones. I made some oil from it for a patient of mine, and will update this thread once I get some feedback.

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Lysemith said:

I grow a funky pheno of AK-47 that regularly tests at 10% THC, and 8% CBD. I like it a lot, fruity funky dense as rocks. Helps a ton with the pain, a smooth and tasty strain, but something about it, I can't really toke on her all the time, unappealing in some undescribable way. The oil I make from it though, I love all day long, super clear and clean effect with fruity floral taste.

Clone only in NM as far as I'm aware.

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Would you both mind sharing how you're making your oil?

Trying to help my sister with Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome as a last ditch effort.

Thanks

cannacole rick simpson oil would work for your sister its the best oil/edible u could eat because your liver and intestines process and absorb it very well....your liver converts thc to delta 9 thc...smoking is the most unhealthiest way to try to medicate (even tho we all do it including myself) rick simpson oil is illegal in most states but is legal if u were to put an edible in it like flaxseed oil is what i do then it is considered your legal edible

Just a BHO extraction. I have problems with nausea and vomiting as well, and this strain is pretty good for that too. If your making the oil to be eaten, I would recommend an ethanol or isopropyl extract to catch things like magnesium and chlorophyll which can really help the condition.

CannaCole said:

Would you both mind sharing how you're making your oil?

Trying to help my sister with Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome as a last ditch effort.

Thanks

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I have made RSO a few times, but imo using a harsh solvent is not the best idea for people with compromised immune systems or other ailments. You have a few options. If your sister is OK with getting high, then you can decarboxylate the oil by heating it up. When I make decarbed oil I will use 1/2oz to 1oz per cup of coconut oil. Costco sells a large container of cold pressed extra virgin coconut oil for $15. On the stove top (in a thick pot) bring the oil to around 200-225 degrees (buy a candy thermometer). Add the dried flowers/stems/leaves and mash it up a bit, breaking open the flowers. You will continue to stir/mash the mix every half hour or so for AT LEAST 2 hours. I usually shoot for 3-4 hours. Remove it from the heat, and let it sit for an hour as the oil will be hot. Then strain it through some cheese cloth in to a glass jar and refrigerate. Coconut oil is a solid under 76 degrees, so for your sister to heat it back up just place the jar in a bowl of warm water for a few minutes. I recommend her starting out with no more than 5ml (teaspoon) in the morning, and again at night. She can adjust her dose from there depending on the strength of the oil and her tolerance.

If she doesn't want to feel high, or perhaps wants a morning oil that won't make her high, you have to extract the canabinoids without using heat. I have done a dry ice extraction using bubble bags, and I have also made ice water hash which is then added to the oil at room temperature. The nice part of this is that you can use higher THC plants which prior to decarboxilyzation is in the form of THC-A which is non-psychoactive, and has been reported to be very therapeutic. You could also put the plant matter in the oil in a container with a lid, and then put it in the fridge and leave it for a month or so. Canabinoids are fat soluble, so over the course of the month+ all of the goodies will leach out in to the oil and you will have yourself a non-psychoactive oil.

If you want more info feel free to shoot me a pm

My bad ..."THC degrades into CBN, not CBD."

Thank you everyone for your input! I'm going with the dry ice method for my sister. Hopefully this helps. Just spoke with her, fully willing to try (as long as she doesn't get stoned)!

Next question. My plants have about 2 weeks to go. For the benefit of her you think it would cause harm (maybe stress) to harvest and cure a decent sized branch to start curing and making the oil? Trichs cloudy and clear but more clear...don't want to limit medicinal properties. Yield I can deal with if it helps her.

Thanks again for your input.

*I can post pics if that would help.

Also the Iso or Ethanol extract would not get her any higher than the bubble bag or dry ice method without decarbing. just for fair representation of the the 'harsh' solvents

also a solvent extract would bring more of the 'vegetable matter' that really diversifies the spectrum of medication delivered. And the benefit of a whole plant solvent extract is that you do not have to flower out the plant to get significant benefit. You can dry a bunch of leaves and use it. It is best to flower out the plant for the best representation and ratio of active substance though.

Lysemith said:

Also the Iso or Ethanol extract would not get her any higher than the bubble bag or dry ice method without decarbing. just for fair representation of the the 'harsh' solvents

also a solvent extract would bring more of the 'vegetable matter' that really diversifies the spectrum of medication delivered. And the benefit of a whole plant solvent extract is that you do not have to flower out the plant to get significant benefit. You can dry a bunch of leaves and use it. It is best to flower out the plant for the best representation and ratio of active substance though.

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I don't agree with this. First off, most people use heat to purge the solvent from the oil. I know you can do a vaccum purge, but the most thorough way to rid the oil of iso/naptha/ethanol/etc is to cook it off. This will decarboxylate the oil, making it psychoactive. Secondly, if there is any remaining solvent in the mix do you really feel that a sick patient would be well served ingesting this? Let's face it, we're not doing this in a controlled enviornment with proper equiptment such as a lab. Most people doing this are in their kitchen armed with nothing more than a 5-gallon bucket from home depot and a rice cooker. It's very difficult to have any consistency doing it this way, and there is no way to ensure that all of the solvent has been purged. If you're healthy and just looking to get rocked, then I don't see any issue with doing it this way. BUT, if you're making oil for a sick patient I feel that you owe it to them to make sure that what you're asking them to ingest is of the highest standard. Lastly, the dry ice extraction does indeed add plant matter to the oil. The ice is so cold that it freezes the plant matter to a point that it is turned in to a powder that is fine enough to pass through a 90 micron bubble bag ..... which is then infused in to the oil.

Super cool about that last bit on the dry ice. All very good points, I think this changes my mind about recommending solvent extractions, except for maybe ethanol.
I still maintain a better spectrum from the plant can be achieved with solvents.

Lysemith said:

Super cool about that last bit on the dry ice. All very good points, I think this changes my mind about recommending solvent extractions, except for maybe ethanol.
I still maintain a better spectrum from the plant can be achieved with solvents.

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You may be right on the "better spectrum" bit. I would say that if you have a patient that is not opposed to being REALLY messed up, and you have a caregiver that is very well versed at making solvent extracts then all should be fine.

BUMP! Has anyone here run Dieseltonic? Pennywise is sold out every time I check.