Best Hydroponic Nutrients???

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NuGroR

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I use General Hydroponics Flora Series. I've only had two grows and they were both healthy. Due to my inexperience, they were not "tight" buds. I was bummed... until I tried it! Now I'm proud!

Nevertheless, I'm using the same nutrients and system on my current grow.

It was recommended by a dear friend who is helping me learn. That is what he uses and I wanted to reproduce his system.

I went to the GH website and looked at the Nutrient Calculator. Does anyone know how to adapt this schedule to our uses?

More specifically, How many weeks are cloning (2), then how many weeks are Veg (2-3), then of course the Flowering is based on the strain. So how do we put this information into the nutrient calculator?
 
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SnugenZ

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Bump. Does anyone have any suggestions for a first time 5 gal DWC grow? Thanks in advance people.
 
CFornell

CFornell

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Between fox farm and ionic, in my dwc, ionic worked much better, but I used the entire feeding schedule which can get kinda pricey
 
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ThcPatient.Co

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house and garden hands down!
AN are just money hungry fools and are marketing geniuses(hence got all you other fools wasting money on useless products thinking its soo great) haha
but whattever keep using AN i dont are its my advantage!
 
dbkick

dbkick

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marketing isn't shit without backing it up, I used all AN products my first grow, yield was massive, sure it wasn't anywhere close to a gram a watt but I didn't have control of my environment, now I do but I'm finding some problems now that I've added a few more AN additives, rootzone additives. sensizym and voodoo juice to be exact. At first I just started with the voodoo juice but had a root issue I thought needed enzymes to address in a couple of my other plants , so I bought some sensizym and gave all my plants a round even though there were only three of the six with the issue. Now my nice white roots (from the voodoo juice alone) are brown and pretty fucking ugly atm but Ive read in a couple days they'll come out of that , its the sensizym. dunno if thats the fact or not but I'm waiting it out holding off h2o2 since it will kill my expensive rootzone bugs. have a look at this link and lemme know what you think...... https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/358627-roots.html#post4526122
 
dbkick

dbkick

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SnugenZ said:
Bump. Does anyone have any suggestions for a first time 5 gal DWC grow? Thanks in advance people.
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Forget the buckets, go aerospring...... its more or less a form of dwc but not really, its not true aeroponics because spray has to be atomized much more than a water pump and sprinkler heads will do. See https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/346967-my-first-grow.html#post4373353 for what I think are some decent ideas for a aerospring unit, 60 bux per unit and you're good to go.
 

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bud man jay

bud man jay

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Im using Fox Farm and Advanced Nutrients side by side (spent a lot on nutes i know) in dwc same lighting and everything and guess who's winning?
 
dbkick

dbkick

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CFornell said:
Isn't that just dwc aeroponics... 360 sprayers on the roots right?

What do you mean atomized?
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The spray has to be a certain size of droplet, was thinking it was like 5 microns but that seems small. The tote I made has 180 degree sprayers and much needed filtering( or your sprayer heads will clog).Yes as I stated, this design has been referred to as aerospring, it is basically just dwc with a twist but I think its a lot better than just dwc.
 
DUBS Doobious

DUBS Doobious

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fatman7574 said:
AN's two part is really no better than GH two part formulation and AN is a great deal more expensive. If you actually looked at a comparison analysis they are very nearly the same once mixed. AN really has only one advantage. That is Fat Milkie's bravado and relentless deceptive ramblings and advertising. AN has no more aceess to miracle nutrient formulation data than anyone else. (IE there are no miracles or new discoveries in nutrient formulations). Some mj nutrient manafacturers just have higher ethical standards than Fat Mikie of AN so they do not try to sell bunk supplements and twisted "new" formulations just to make increased sells and profits.

AN is also no better than Canna, AN is simply more concentrated. Botanicare's chemical nutrients are also every bit as good as AN's two parts formulations. The ratios of ingrediants are about the same for all the major mj manafacturer's two part standard formulations, but concentrations vary. IE 2-2-2 is the same as 4-4-4, the 4-4-4 is just twice as concentrated. The high concentration fertolzers are actually supplying you withless micronutrients as when you dilute the higher concentration formulas twice as much your also only getting half as much micronutrients as they do not increase those concentrations like they do the major nutrients. IE they this so as to increase their profits not so as to provide a better deal for the buyer. Their actual fertilizer ingrediants cost is very, very minimal. Typically less than $2.50 per gallon of concentrate for the standard two part formulations.

Some like AN spend too much on advertising and expect larger profits so they simply charge more.
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two things about AN, better non-ionic chelates, and correct quantities of Phosporous. thats all I can say. Do your research.
 
StinkBud

StinkBud

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The Nutrient Mix

Cloners:
150ml Clonex
Veg systems:
125ml Cal-Mag Plus
175ml Liquid Karma
550ml Pure Blend Pro Vegetative Formula

Flowering Systems:
250ml Cal-Mag Plus
250ml Sweet
175ml Liquid Karma
550ml Pure Blend Pro Bloom

Mix all the nutrients in a recycled gallon milk container. Add water and shake well. The whole mix will take an 18 gal reservoir to 2900 PPM.

Add about half of the mix and check your PPM. It will be low so you will have to keep adding nutrients until you get it to 2000 PPM.

It is easy to add more nutrients but hard to take them out. If you go over you have to drain some nutrients /water from the res and add more plain water.

That's why you want to take it slow at first.

Always adjust your PH after you set your nutrients PPM.
Fill the res with water and start adding the nutrient formula until it reaches the correct PPM.

What PPM level you run depends a lot on what strain you are running. 1700-2000 PPM is a safe number to start at but some strains can handle over 3000 PPM.

Every couple of days I add water. As the plants use up the nutrients you will have to add more formula. It's really too easy!

All you need is a cheap PPM meter. You need a PPM meter that goes to at least 2000 PPM. Stick it in the water and read the number.

Same with PH. Just put the meter in the water and it will tell you the PH. If it is below 5.8 you add PH up. If is above 5.8 you add PH down.
 
bowlfullofbliss

bowlfullofbliss

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Don't get chased off Ionic. I've grown mountains of herb with Ionic. You do need to add some other goodies to it, like superthrive, hygrozime, than some flowering boosters when you go to bloom. It's perfectly good stuff. It's affordable, easy to make adjustments, and you don't have to spend countless hours like the rest of us measuring 5 different parts of nutrients. Geez, I have a fing calculator in my room so I can get everything right, and it's guesswork at best to get the right EC when you add water. IMHO, ionic is perfect for newbies.

My house and garden I use costs so much money its nuts, but it's the best, and I have a lot of practice in not killing my babies. Wait until you get a couple of crops under your belt than step it up in quality of products.
 
bowlfullofbliss

bowlfullofbliss

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StinkBud said:
The Nutrient Mix

Cloners:
150ml Clonex
Veg systems:
125ml Cal-Mag Plus
175ml Liquid Karma
550ml Pure Blend Pro Vegetative Formula

Flowering Systems:
250ml Cal-Mag Plus
250ml Sweet
175ml Liquid Karma
550ml Pure Blend Pro Bloom

Mix all the nutrients in a recycled gallon milk container. Add water and shake well. The whole mix will take an 18 gal reservoir to 2900 PPM.

Add about half of the mix and check your PPM. It will be low so you will have to keep adding nutrients until you get it to 2000 PPM.

It is easy to add more nutrients but hard to take them out. If you go over you have to drain some nutrients /water from the res and add more plain water.

That's why you want to take it slow at first.

Always adjust your PH after you set your nutrients PPM.
Fill the res with water and start adding the nutrient formula until it reaches the correct PPM.

What PPM level you run depends a lot on what strain you are running. 1700-2000 PPM is a safe number to start at but some strains can handle over 3000 PPM.

Every couple of days I add water. As the plants use up the nutrients you will have to add more formula. It's really too easy!

All you need is a cheap PPM meter. You need a PPM meter that goes to at least 2000 PPM. Stick it in the water and read the number.

Same with PH. Just put the meter in the water and it will tell you the PH. If it is below 5.8 you add PH up. If is above 5.8 you add PH down.
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3000 ppm, really? That's nuts. You must have some agressive strains going. Thats like an EC of 3.5. Crazy.
 
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