Best overall breeder... Thoughts ?

bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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Joedank said:
i did not belive it either till i squished a GG#4 nug ... 1gram trimmed =.33 on the scale :shock:
i know there are waxes an shit but damn a plant that is alomst killing itself in oil...
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Well after you remove the waxes are you honestly left with more than 20% total cannabinoids? Takeing into factor terpenes are also not cannabinoids. I could be wrong though just what I heard Shantibaba say and I kind of believe him but I only care how it smokes personally.
 
Joedank

Joedank

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bluntmassa1 said:
Well after you remove the waxes are you honestly left with more than 20% total cannabinoids? Takeing into factor terpenes are also not cannabinoids. I could be wrong though just what I heard Shantibaba say and I kind of believe him but I only care how it smokes personally.
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thats a valid point .... i belive the baselines for the testing are a little off but with the oversite here in colorado . they are pretty sure they are getting it right .... but with only one lab certified to do testing for microbial .... i beg to differ ...
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Joedank said:
i did not belive it either till i squished a GG#4 nug ... 1gram trimmed =.33 on the scale :shock:
i know there are waxes an shit but damn a plant that is alomst killing itself in oil...
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When I was squishing my GG4 I noticed a similar effect, most rosin producing strain I have ever dealt with.
 
wifey48

wifey48

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kmog33 said:
That just means the strain wasn't stable to begin with lol and you probably received it at the f2 gen. The get more stable the more you cross them. So if you bought f1s(which is what most breeders sell right now) you're first cross would have been the f2s with crazy variation. And if you crossed then resulting beans from those or any really that had the same pheno representations, you would be getting more stable.


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So are you saying that f1s are strong and f2s are crazy so you breed again to the f2s to find your traits
 
wifey48

wifey48

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imsmut, post: 12304114, member: 402624"]I really enjoy reading folk's opinions on what makes a breeder great. Thank you! The framing of the question creates room for a great deal of discussion. Yet, at the same time, I feel that it also obscures some different ways of thinking about the issue...

I have a great deal of respect for the breeders who take the time to inbreed a line, selecting outstanding individuals from huge populations, and stabilizing outstanding traits that can improve our experience of this plant. I understand why some such as sativafied lament the rarity of such practices. Within the current legal framework, I can also understand why such large scale breeding projects are just not practical for many.
This is just my two cents: This is Gods plant it has so many uses no matter what you do you cannot break it down, man has tried over the years, you can breed , pollen chuck do what ever its still cannabis yes you can find and make better grades , but when one finds a keeper there is always one out there better and may be found accidently by one person, so I feel enjoy share dont be stingy and know it all cause the one you undermining may be the one who has that plant for you to make that so called killer strain with lol. I have 13 plus yrs growing and it all takes time we gonna die and they gonna keep making strains
I have also appreciated the efforts of breeders who create polyhybrids, having really enjoyed finding outstanding individuals that I still keep.

It interests me that so many outstanding plants have come not from our hand, but from mama nature finding a way despite our best attempts (gorilla glue I am looking at you).

I prefer to think of this issue in a more holistic manner. As a community, we stand on the shoulders of giants who helped make modern hybrids even possible. We rely on technological shifts that make indoor growing possible. As a collective, we each contribute in our small ways our selections to the gene pools, weeding through millions of plants to find and preserve the ones that please us most. And, it is important to understand that we have a relationship to this plant which it contributes to as well.

I submit that this 'system' has been the best breeder, and that this is clearly seen in what I perceive as a golden age of cannabis...[/QUOTE]
As this I
 
since1991

since1991

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wifey48 said:
imsmut, post: 12304114, member: 402624"]I really enjoy reading folk's opinions on what makes a breeder great. Thank you! The framing of the question creates room for a great deal of discussion. Yet, at the same time, I feel that it also obscures some different ways of thinking about the issue...

I have a great deal of respect for the breeders who take the time to inbreed a line, selecting outstanding individuals from huge populations, and stabilizing outstanding traits that can improve our experience of this plant. I understand why some such as sativafied lament the rarity of such practices. Within the current legal framework, I can also understand why such large scale breeding projects are just not practical for many.
This is just my two cents: This is Gods plant it has so many uses no matter what you do you cannot break it down, man has tried over the years, you can breed , pollen chuck do what ever its still cannabis yes you can find and make better grades , but when one finds a keeper there is always one out there better and may be found accidently by one person, so I feel enjoy share dont be stingy and know it all cause the one you undermining may be the one who has that plant for you to make that so called killer strain with lol. I have 13 plus yrs growing and it all takes time we gonna die and they gonna keep making strains
I have also appreciated the efforts of breeders who create polyhybrids, having really enjoyed finding outstanding individuals that I still keep.

It interests me that so many outstanding plants have come not from our hand, but from mama nature finding a way despite our best attempts (gorilla glue I am looking at you).

I prefer to think of this issue in a more holistic manner. As a community, we stand on the shoulders of giants who helped make modern hybrids even possible. We rely on technological shifts that make indoor growing possible. As a collective, we each contribute in our small ways our selections to the gene pools, weeding through millions of plants to find and preserve the ones that please us most. And, it is important to understand that we have a relationship to this plant which it contributes to as well.

I submit that this 'system' has been the best breeder, and that this is clearly seen in what I perceive as a golden age of cannabis...
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Well said^^^^
 
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ky man

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shorelineOG said:
Cat piss smelling varieties are straight potent, the stronger the odor the danker. Disregard THC numbers and chuck pollen based on smells. Observe what smell produce what effect. Hunger, pain relief, aphrodisiac, creativity, drowsiness, alertness or laughter. Do the sour smells produce laughter? Also, like you said about the purple, color is related to effect.The best strain in Mexico, probably the world is a very light green with a low pistil to calyx ratio. Like the color of a tennis ball.
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That light green weed from mexico.I have sean many loads of it and to me its the best they grow and I also have seeds from it.I have grew it here in ky. and I loved it but it is a late finisher here.MY Mexican friends some are still in federal prison over it but dam I like it.IT still is around but to much heat now for me to mess with it...ky
 
wifey48

wifey48

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Yes yes that is so true I try to tell these guys out here you think you got the s,,,, t im 62 been going a min been around a lot of cats old heads that got some serious original strains, I remember that mexican cut you talk about that was lime green or bighter my cousin had an ounce in a one a day vitamin bottle , man a pinner. Would make you silly as hell that was a long time ago ha ha
 
Bottleandmobile

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Shantibaba, Neville, Simon serious, , Dj. TGA is cool too, Mr. Soma himself, hmm DNA Boddhi and other guys who run this era I guess. Just my opinion with some knowledge.
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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when i try the cut of oh zone i have had for few years..it cuts through any indica
its the only plant that has given me a white out for l0-15 minutes[could not tell]
i should have left that second volcano bag alone..
it was kinda fun though when i could finally understand what people were saying to me it was more fun..
but i prefer all sativa..
 
shorelineOG

shorelineOG

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rollinfunk said:
top dawg seeds
bodhi
karma
jaws gear
CSI
archive
BOG
Exotic
Green Beanz
PNW Roots
Haze man
GPS
Motarebel
strayfox

some just find a solid, stable male and do F1s... some work lines.
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You listed some breeders I am interested in. If you had to narrow it down what would be your top 3 breeders and then what strains from each?
 
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ky man

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shantibaba,neville,bodhi and bigworm6969..I would talk to the breeders about the strains if I was you.I have always heard that shantibaba was the best in the world.
 
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