Best soil ever

I noticed a very intrtesting array of ifferent materials to grow in. What is the best soil mix!?

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well i like my garden mix i use, the base is 40 percent compost 40 percent topsoil and 10 percent pumice stone then i added a few bags of black golds coco mix and soil conditioner, along with a bale of peat moss, a bag of steer manure, alot of horse shit compost any house scraps such as used coffee, egg shells and easy shit i also add some gauno at the beginning of the year. after 2 years with the soil it seems to have gotten much better looking and feeling as i add alot of organic matter or at least try

There's so much shit in your soil mcpurple it's gotta be good. My dog used to eat horse shit like it was cake. He was a golden. They're not too bright. But I liked the smell of horses too, it was pretty cool.

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Thanks evver one iv learned so much from dis site, n met some cool pepz, shits funny az hell dawg

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dannyboy602 said:

There's so much shit in your soil mcpurple it's gotta be good. My dog used to eat horse shit like it was cake. He was a golden. They're not too bright. But I liked the smell of horses too, it was pretty cool.

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i also added 1 feeding a week of tea as well while they were in veg and a lil bit while in fruit. my tea consists of horse shit, a small amount of dirt, chicken shit, bat guano and some fish emulsion bloom, and then added some roots oregonisms and some bokashi, plus molasses. my soil is great and when i move i am taking the dirt with me. i will also be making my own compost soon. ( i hope.)

You're taking the dirt with you? Thats the first time I've heard that. That's rich. What's bokashi?

hey its good soil, and might as well take the good stuff with me rather then starting from scratch again.

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for my outoor veggies this year i dug out about a foot depth of the crusty clay dirt and replaced it with roughly 40% peat moss, 30% composted cow shit, and 30% worm castings. i mixed in a bit of chickity doo doo (organic chicken shit fert, smells like straight up feces and attracts flies, think it's about 6-4-4, works AWESOME), a bit of perlite (yeah i use it in the ground), and some pelletized and powdered lime. i let this "cook" outside for about a month in april, turning it and/or moistening it every couple days (dry peat moss is a bitch to incorperate). a week before planting time i tilled in some ff peace of mind all purpose granular (5-5-5) and i top dress with it once a month ever since. this is as organic as i can get without using teas and i had a fucking BUMPER crop of stuff this year, and i only sprayed organic bug stuff once. i spent about 50 bucks on the dirt and another 15 on ferts. i had some brandywine tomatoes that were over 2 lbs and would have been bigger but i had to pick them as they are prone to splitting at the shoulders when they get too big. i swear i would use this mix indoors if i had the room to store and mix it all.

It sounds rich. I've used gypsum to break up clay with some success. I know gardeners rant about clay soil but lb. for lb. clay holds more moisture then silt or loam. So clay does have merit.

Total Head said:

for my outoor veggies this year i dug out about a foot depth of the crusty clay dirt and replaced it with roughly 40% peat moss, 30% composted cow shit, and 30% worm castings. i mixed in a bit of chickity doo doo (organic chicken shit fert, smells like straight up feces and attracts flies, think it's about 6-4-4, works AWESOME), a bit of perlite (yeah i use it in the ground), and some pelletized and powdered lime. i let this "cook" outside for about a month in april, turning it and/or moistening it every couple days (dry peat moss is a bitch to incorperate). a week before planting time i tilled in some ff peace of mind all purpose granular (5-5-5) and i top dress with it once a month ever since. this is as organic as i can get without using teas and i had a fucking BUMPER crop of stuff this year, and i only sprayed organic bug stuff once. i spent about 50 bucks on the dirt and another 15 on ferts. i had some brandywine tomatoes that were over 2 lbs and would have been bigger but i had to pick them as they are prone to splitting at the shoulders when they get too big. i swear i would use this mix indoors if i had the room to store and mix it all.

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instead of perlite for outdoors you should look in to pumice stone to add.

dannyboy602 said:

It sounds rich. I've used gypsum to break up clay with some success. I know gardeners rant about clay soil but lb. for lb. clay holds more moisture then silt or loam. So clay does have merit.

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how long did it take the gypsum to break the clay soil down? i was gonna get some but the owner said it takes a few years to break the soil down

dannyboy602 said:

It sounds rich. I've used gypsum to break up clay with some success. I know gardeners rant about clay soil but lb. for lb. clay holds more moisture then silt or loam. So clay does have merit.

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it's a very rich mix but i didn't do any direct seeding so it served me very well. holding the moisture was my biggest problem with the clay. it just doesn't drain. no matter how well i till it it's always compacted in a week. my garden is on a slight slope so the water has a tendency to run downhill and pool rather than drain, even with the little retaining walls and ditches i built to help level and drain. when the clay gets wet it's like cement with puddles on top, and the "good dirt" floats to the top and gets washed away, and i'm left with this goopy muck. suffocated my zuchinni and shortened the life of my cukes. my rule of thumb is that if you stick your foot in the dirt, (or finger) it should sink in with ease. if it doesn't, the dirt is too compacted. my bad on the zuchinni, though. it just doesn't belong at the bottom of a slope but i got the plants for a song.

mcpurple said:

instead of perlite for outdoors you should look in to pumice stone to add.

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the perlite is what i usually have laying around but pumice would probably be a much better alternative. i've found the key to perlite outside is to let the soil settle for a month or so before adding it. if i add it during the initial mixing of the soil it mostly floats to the top when watered and is essentially useless. what i should have done is maybe tilled a bunch of perlite into the clay before i added the foot of good stuff on top. me and my ideas...

cannawizard said:

*soil w/ gazillions of microbes, i mean LOTs ..natures bio helpers can do a better job than your "synthetics" can ever will

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Yep, here's a kush done with organic soil from outside in my garden plus a bit of molasses. The bugs only appear indoors when I water!. I tried to make it a 4 cola and wound up w/5 somehow

@ mcpurp...I found this but it isn't specific about time. I really just did it in fall and let it mellow over the winter. Then I planted.

http://www.puyallup.wsu.edu/~linda chalker-scott/horticultural myths_files/Myths/Gypsum.pdf

@totalhead...is raised beds a possibility for you?