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tea tree

tea tree

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I have a quick question. I am in the same med situation and am in organic soil like I said and also have done hydro. However, I did small dwc and ebb and flow. Here is my question: In a five gallon dwc when the roots take up the whole bucket how do you get the water and the nutes to work. I mean it is obvious compacted in there. Do you have to change the reservoir every day? Can you give us a quick run down on how it works?

Thank you. I am not against trying a five gallon bucket along with my big soil girls. Also their are other reasons to go organic soil besides the organic. The immutable diference in buffers between soil and water are huge and the less strong a push to produce that most will agree gives the smoothest taste. I however cant remember what my hydro tasted like though, rofl. But I tried someone elses hydro and then mine and wow the diference DID knock me off my feet :) woot!

no offense, I did keep my ebb table just in case too ;)
 
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tea tree said:
I have a quick question. I am in the same med situation and am in organic soil like I said and also have done hydro. However, I did small dwc and ebb and flow. Here is my question: In a five gallon dwc when the roots take up the whole bucket how do you get the water and the nutes to work. I mean it is obvious compacted in there. Do you have to change the reservoir every day? Can you give us a quick run down on how it works?

Thank you. I am not against trying a five gallon bucket along with my big soil girls. Also their are other reasons to go organic soil besides the organic. The immutable diference in buffers between soil and water are huge and the less strong a push to produce that most will agree gives the smoothest taste. I however cant remember what my hydro tasted like though, rofl. But I tried someone elses hydro and then mine and wow the diference DID knock me off my feet :) woot!

no offense, I did keep my ebb table just in case too ;)
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just as with soil, the root ball is made up of roots; plenty of room for air and water to move around. altogether, a 5g root ball only displaces about a gallon (5g buckets get closer to 4g) and can and usually do drink a gallon of water a day, making top off very important for dwc. my chemical hydro tastes better than any soil (organic or no) plant.
 
OregonMeds

OregonMeds

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Soil works but it takes too damn long. These trees I'm growing stupid big in 6 gallon buckets have been vegging since feb 15th to get this size.

In DWC or better yet krusty/freedom buckets the'd have been done and cured already and produced more weight than many times this amount of dirt can even dream of. (Not that anyone else would ever veg this big anyway but when you're talking even a normal size tree that's a long veg time, might as well shorten that up with hydro because let me tell you this wait sucks.)


I'm on the fence myself about choosing dwc rdwc or krusty. Nothing beats krusty still but not all of us can swing those goodies needed to do it. Since it is just dwc with mods you can start dwc and upgrade later with the huge pump and chiller and stuff.

You must have crazy amounts of lights plus co2 supplementation or there's probably not much difference at all between any of those three options anyway.
 

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If you have co2 and lights and the money to buy the stuff and power it all then go krusty, that's the first pic. They can do nearly 5lb plants, nobody has beaten the 5lb mark per plant indoors yet, ever, that I've found anyway.

The second pic is standard dwc. I don't know the weight, less than krusty by a pound maybe max. I'm not giving the pics like they are an even comparison because they aren't even the same strain, just to show you what's up.

Obviously either will do ok.

(For the record it takes 4kw or similar of light per plant to get monsters like these either way, so don't forget the 5 ton a/c unit in your budget)
 

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OregonMeds said:
If you have co2 and lights and the money to buy the stuff and power it all then go krusty, that's the first pic. They can do nearly 5lb plants, nobody has beaten the 5lb mark per plant indoors yet, ever, that I've found anyway.

The second pic is standard dwc. I don't know the weight, less than krusty by a pound maybe max. I'm not giving the pics like they are an even comparison because they aren't even the same strain, just to show you what's up.

Obviously either will do ok.

(For the record it takes 4kw or similar of light per plant to get monsters like these either way, so don't forget the 5 ton a/c unit in your budget)
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I dont know if your allowed to cuss on this forum but holly fucking shit those are monsters! Please let me know what a krusty bucket is and how it works. I'm infatuated with the first picture, I could make love to those plants. :joint::joint::joint::joint:
+ rep just for those plants
+ some more rep for the great responses :joint:
 
KP2

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bestgrow said:
Wow a gallon a day! thats crazy. So what do you top off with, only water or water + nutes
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water only. change res completely every 14 days.

in dwc, i prefer a medium free zone. things are much less complicated when you can lift a lid and see what you need to do. i generally produce 1 lb per 5g bucket for 8 weeks veg. 3kw total, and plants are about 3' in diameter, trained to a level canopy.

this is my old way. i threw plant counts out the window with the new law and am growing sog (which has proven about 1/3 more productive than dwc monsters)
 
tea tree

tea tree

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what is the new law, I like monsters for now so, please, also what is the root area like in the 5 gallon dwc? I am dying to knoe how you would handle it. Or is it not a problem? Cool if not, I have had good luck with dwc in past.
 
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