SimpleSimon said:
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Focusing more on Weed then the state of the world. I think that the reason people don't grow commercial pot is that they just don't understand it.
Lets face it, growing organic is harder, you have to learn WAY more. And where i am from, its not like you can get any help.
what is so much harder with organic? im thinking about going 100% organic but its hard to motivate maybe you can help?
I don't think the non-organic people are the capitalist pigs you describe. i think they just haven't figured it out yet.
No... people are capitalist pigs bro, lol.... Even a good chunk of the ones that turned out ok like myself (I like to believe so anyhow) had dollar signs in their/my eyes when I started this... Only did me wanting to have the ability to grow the best/cleanest herb/med no matter what it took/cost, taking YEARS to get where I am only because I stumbled through all the bottles of bullshit to get here... and theres still a LONG way to go.. I wanted to be a commercial guy but the little bit of good in me and the few occasions since I've started growing that I've seen my TGA, organically grown nugs heal people.... So far 2 hep c patients, a liver cancer patient.... no longer has cancer... at all, a school teacher with MS which has gone spastic, meaning she uncontrollably twitches a little, but very noticeable... she no longer twitches.. I cant say for 100% that "MY" herb is what did it, but in quite a few of these above mentioned cases, they had no success until they incorporated my cannabis, TGA/subcools cannabis actually... but none the less, Its the closest to a literal miracle that I've ever been... To see these people actually feel good...
But the fact of the matter that I wanted to point out is that growing organic has turned out to be cheaper, in a gigantic way, the nugs are way better.... And yield is on point once you master it... ONCE YOU MASTER IT... means when you stop messing with your plants thinking you know better than the people posting "WATER ONLY"....
Anyhow.... A friend took some of my stuff that I consider "good", some of my better specimens with a decent cure on it...FYI though, IMO as reference, I have yet to get as close to a perfectly dank grown nug as I would like to be but I'm close..... The only thing taken up was "The void" grown right in SS/TLO 1000% organic with ro water to as pretty dank close to perfection as possible, and by the way, 2 "the void" clones in 5 gallon square pots yielded upwards of 9 zips of primo donkey dick buds that made me drool, but still not as good as I can do... There is still room to improve but I dont normally post weights but that was something amazing for 5 gallon plastic pots and nothing but water, myco at 3 weeks of 12/12 and sweetners @ days 30 and 45... No co2... And 9 zips is not what was brought up, only some head stash for my buddy that he shared, and I was glad I got good reviews but it still sucks that these people are paying $60 an 8th at a dispensary for mids of what we would normally grow....
But these people that were card holding med patients had never had anything as good as what my buddy went up with... One hand I'm excited that something I feel is far from my best work by any means, but most definitely some dank, was the best.... these dispensary going, multiple strain to choose from, med patients have to choose from??? The shit that I beat myself up over not being good enough for my patients is better than dispensarys are putting out in legal med states???? They literally said it was the best they've had in med quality, to potency, to flavor, nothing, never... He said the main words directly after medicating were "WOW"... and then it was on repeat as that Apollo high set in and they were soaring he said... Im glad I was able to let them see theres better out there anyhow...
He said basically all they get is rushed "head-band" and all these generic "kush" strains that usually are not cured, which not all of the folks even knew anything about... Dried weed is dried weed right????
The point I'm trying to make is that a guy that started out thinking he was going to be the biggest pot dealer the world has ever known with 2 - T-8 lights and a bunch of CFL's; today is growing (way less as far as amounts than I thought I'd be growing thats for sure...) better herb, possibly in better conditions, producing a better end result than at least 1 dispensary in maine.... out of my basement....
Back to capitalist pigs... People take the route of least resistance #1 usually, #2 most get started the same way I did with a high times magazine and a "hydro store guy" that "guides you" through first exposures to growing weed and make you believe it to be gospel, sell you a bunch of shit, when you go back asking why its not working, he sells you something else...... Hopefully sooner or later, you move on to your own train of thought and do some reading about the realities of whats going into not only our marijane nutes, but the food the world is being fed...
Then cognitive dissidence will grab ahold of your belief system and you'll follow it to the edge of the earth until hopefully you realize no matter what you do its never going to be "medical" quality or as good as someone elses organic you got lucky enough to try via chem methods... it can be good, and very close, but organic vs. chem IMO there is no comparison anymore... And honestly I grew organic a long time before I even knew HOW GOOD it really is... I'm still being surprised as every grow gets better...
All weed grows in the dark. 
