Best TurnKey Hydro Setup?

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bengali548

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so im researching into the best hydroponic method to grow weed

ive narrowed it down to an 8 bucket (2 gallon buckets) connected bubbler system 1 plant per bucket

OR a 16 site superponics system with 2 inch net cups

OR a vertical 360 degree grow room (still doing research on this i might do an angled flood pipe but i was looking into this method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tfFuOXM29w )

here are two links to see. im torn between these two
http://www.supercloset.com/index.php?c=product&m=index&d=36

http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/systems/waterfarm/waterfarm_8_pack/

im going for potency more than yield but would love to do a SCROG setup. however, i dont know if this would be possible with a vertical grow
 
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bengali548

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bump any help is good help

i know the concepts so i can build these items by myself but my selling point is that it was engineered and researched before being built vs a diy

im more concerned on the growing qualities of these 3 setups. im trying to go for potency over yield but was told that if i wanted to get all around potency i'd have to do scrog but im worried that, as a new grower, if i need to remove my plants, for any reason, they would be tied to the screen so how do other scrogers deal with this
 
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TahoeOGRLWC

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You should try out a ProGrow System. They are super easy to work with. The customer service is great and the system works really well. It is a rswc so there is not as much nutes needed in the system. Typical 8 bucket system would hold about 20 gallons in the whole system. With is being shallow water there is no need for a water chiller. Really tough to beat for the price and the simple ease of the system. I tried to take pics last night but getting all these black lines. 15 years plus growing Hydro....can't figure out the camera....LOL
If you have more questions just feel free to ask. You can also call them and they will answer any questions you might have about it or others. I would consider this system if you want simple and success. Good Luck

http://www.thehydrolife.com/products/progrow-hydroponic-8-bucket-system
 
matt7835706

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I like buckets, super easy to work with, move and clean. I use 6 inch net pot nu have switch to 10's for the next, they should be more stable.
 
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bengali548

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wouldnt the PH swing around more frequently in shallow water due to the low volume?

also, i was told that DWC and SWC can cause root rot easier than a drain and flow system. also, and this is from my in experience" isnt the pro grower a drain and flood system also? if i filled the 3 gallon pots with a growing medium (hydroton?) and turned on the circulation of water once every 6 hours for 15 mins than let it all drain wouldnt that work as a drain and flow?

bengali548 said:
bump any help is good help

i know the concepts so i can build these items by myself but my selling point is that it was engineered and researched before being built vs a diy

im more concerned on the growing qualities of these 3 setups. im trying to go for potency over yield but was told that if i wanted to get all around potency i'd have to do scrog but im worried that, as a new grower, if i need to remove my plants, for any reason, they would be tied to the screen so how do other scrogers deal with this
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TahoeOGRLWC

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No you wouldn't get the PH swings in this system. The root rot usually comes from not taking care if the system and warm water. In this system I just add water to it when it gets low. Also the water is always moving and help with sediment build up. They stopped using the 3 gallon and went with some nice 10" Net pots but with solid side and mesh bottom. The system doesn't fill and drain, it does recirculate and it drips from top for 10 min every four hours. With the roots getting air between them and the water it really helps with the growth. The system comes with 1 bag of GrowStones. The help with maintaining a PH level. It wouldn't work with this system to fill and drain cause the control bucket has two 1" fittings going to buckets. Then each bucket has 2 one inch fittings and at the end it returns thru a filter and back to the control.
 
cues

cues

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I like the hydrogarden dual-flow. Gives you the choice of flood&drain (for beginners) or nft for the more experienced. Also, It's expandable.
 
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TahoeOGRLWC

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Bowl I think said it great....no such thing as turn key....it does take some time and care to make them go.....its not like getting a Buggy Turn Key and put gas in her and she runs...lol Takes more to a system than just putting in Nutes and walking away!
 
donutpunched

donutpunched

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I run a few different systems, DWC,Monster Ebb and Gro and a UC system.... I can tell you the monster Ebb and Gro is the easiest and most forgiving out of the 3 and consistently hits the mark with no problems at all.... I use tap water, Dutchmaster gold series with Zone and I have never had any root issues and I dont run a chiller...... I have it set for 12 buckets, but you can run 8..... or as few as you would like and has a 55 gallong res.....
 
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bengali548

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i understand it requires a lot of maintenance which im ready to do but i'd rather not diy because theres a bigger margin of error in the design. if i screw up in my growth than i'll learn from it instead of worrying about leaks and minor problems.

which hydroponic setup is best for potency (all of them can get the same results but im looking for personal oppinions)?

also, a random question, if i did get bucket systems would i stunt the growth of the plant if i put all 8 buckets side by side in a confined closet (9x2') or should i give it more room. also can a 400 watt make an 8 bucket system reach its potential or should i go higher). sorry for the noob question
 
Dennis Rodman

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bengali548 said:
OR a vertical 360 degree grow room (still doing research on this i might do an angled flood pipe but i was looking into this method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tfFuOXM29w )


im going for potency more than yield but would love to do a SCROG setup. however, i dont know if this would be possible with a vertical grow
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check out vertigrowsystems.com.
i've used these trays (2 tiers) in a SOG before, but this run im going to do a 1level scrog.
Their whole kits are kind of expensive, but you can just buy 1 tray/small stand and it's not so bad. last run i did like 30something plants, this run im going to do 10 in a vscrog. Anyways... the trays are kinda cool for vertical growing. easy to run ebbnflow/aero/rdwc in a circular shape
 
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bengali548

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Dennis Rodman said:
check out vertigrowsystems.com.
i've used these trays (2 tiers) in a SOG before, but this run im going to do a 1level scrog.
Their whole kits are kind of expensive, but you can just buy 1 tray/small stand and it's not so bad. last run i did like 30something plants, this run im going to do 10 in a vscrog. Anyways... the trays are kinda cool for vertical growing. easy to run ebbnflow/aero/rdwc in a circular shape
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how was your yield on one of these trays?
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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bowlfullofbliss said:
No such thing as a turn key anything in growing cannabis. It's not a hobby for lazy people for sure.
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Speak for yourself, i fill my reservoir with water once every 1 or 2 weeks and never look at it or the p[lants again till it needs re-filling. growing can be as time consuming as you want it to be. I am as lazy as it get's in my free time and i do just fine :)

I like the waterfarm thing with the 8 individual buckets, most all of the multisite single bucket units place the net pots WAYY too close together to grow anything but single cola plants with no side branching.
 
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